Wearing baseball caps at Mass.

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Besides, Hoosier Daddy, if you were to bring it up to the thong / halter top / low-jeans ladies, they would say “well, those are the clothes I have! I can’t afford any other special clothes,etc.”

However, the non-wearing of a ball cap doesn’t require any extra clothing / hatwear, just the effort of leaving your ball cap in the car.
 
27lw said:
Besides, Hoosier Daddy, if you were to bring it up to the thong / halter top / low-jeans ladies, they would say “well, those are the clothes I have! I can’t afford any other special clothes,etc.”

However, the non-wearing of a ball cap doesn’t require any extra clothing / hatwear, just the effort of leaving your ball cap in the car.
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Ummmm. As someone once said, it cost a lot to look cheap.
 
I find it interesting that men are supposed to remove hats in church, and that women used to wear head coverings in church - but don’t. By that reasoning, men should be able to wear hats in church since women don’t.
 
DnJohn said:
I find it interesting that men are supposed to remove hats in church, and that women used to wear head coverings in church - but don’t. By that reasoning, men should be able to wear hats in church since women don’t.
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Men used to open doors for the ladies. I have occasionally seen some women walk right through a door being held open for them and not giving so little as a nod and a smile or a “thank you” to the gentleman holding the door, and at times even losing his place in line. It is no wonder that that custom also is fading away. Yet there are still men who open the door for the ladies. Do they have to? No, they don’t. But they are gentlemen. They show respect. It is not about men being able to wear hats in church. I don’t think it is likely that anyone would approach them and ask him to remove his hat. It is about respect.
 
DnJohn said:
I find it interesting that men are supposed to remove hats in church, and that women used to wear head coverings in church - but don’t. By that reasoning, men should be able to wear hats in church since women don’t.
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That’s a good point. I’m all in favor of it being like it used to be.

But post a women should veil thread and you will be run out of town. Seriously, as close to being beat up as you can get on CAF.
Men’s fashion, that’s fair game apparently. No howls of sexism coming forth…
 
zab said:
Men used to open doors for the ladies. I have occasionally seen some women walk right through a door being held open for them and not giving so little as a nod and a smile or a “thank you” to the gentleman holding the door, and at times even losing his place in line. It is no wonder that that custom also is fading away. Yet there are still men who open the door for the ladies. Do they have to? No, they don’t. But they are gentlemen. They show respect. It is not about men being able to wear hats in church. I don’t think it is likely that anyone would approach them and ask him to remove his hat. It is about respect.
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I find it quaint we have these debates about doors and hats in this day and age of bathrooms and ssm and gender identity. Sadly it just sounds downright odd to lament a hat with the state of the world. It shows a disconnect between the ages.

I’m guilty too if the same type of behavior. Don’t even get me started on the liturgy or music. 😉
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
I find it quaint we have these debates about doors and hats in this day and age of bathrooms and ssm and gender identity. Sadly it just sounds downright odd to lament a hat with the state of the world. It shows a disconnect between the ages.

I’m guilty too if the same type of behavior. Don’t even get me started on the liturgy or music. 😉
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I think you are blowing it all out of proportion. There is nothing wrong or disconnected with wanting to know what the proper thing to do is in this situation. Because our world and our country is in a sad state is no reason to abandon the least signs of respect towards God like removing your hat in church. That just doesn’t make sense. Little things really do matter.
 
zab said:
I think you are blowing it all out of proportion. There is nothing wrong or disconnected with wanting to know what the proper thing to do is in this situation. Because our world and our country is in a sad state is no reason to abandon the least signs of respect towards God like removing your hat in church. That just doesn’t make sense. Little things really do matter.
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Wearing a hat just does not matter. Period.
 
zab said:
Yes it does.
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Or not apparently…

🤷

For some it matters, for others it’s not a particularly big deal. I don’t think this is an issue we’re going to find people agree across the board on.
 
I think we can all agree the way that people present themselves gives an indication of their attitude.
 
27lw said:
I think we can all agree the way that people present themselves gives an indication of their attitude.
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True. But how people will interpret how people present themselves (both in church and in general (indoors or out)) can vary wildly.
 
Padres1969 said:
Or not apparently…

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For some it matters, for others it’s not a particularly big deal. I don’t think this is an issue we’re going to find people agree across the board on.
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To clarify my point that it does matter. I’m not saying that it matters to me. I am not annoyed by what people wear to church. I’m just glad to see them in church. I long for the day when some of my wayward children return. When I said that it does matter, I’m just saying that showing respect with doing something as little as removing your hat does matter. God knows even the little things that we do. Little things do matter.
 
zab said:
To clarify my point that it does matter. I’m not saying that it matters to me. I am not annoyed by what people wear to church. I’m just glad to see them in church. I long for the day when some of my wayward children return. When I said that it does matter, I’m just saying that showing respect with doing something as little as removing your hat does matter. God knows even the little things that we do. Little things do matter.
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In modern society it is not disrespectful to wear hats indoors. It’s just a culture change. It happens. Those who think it is are living in the past.
 
Phemie said:
The mind boggles. Isn’t it Catholicism 101 that men remove their head coverings in church??
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It certainly used to be the norm for men to remove their hats, of any sort. Only very rarely will I see a boy or young man with a ball cap on in church; I have to fight all my instincts to snatch it off his head, and wonder why his dad or mom doesn’t,

It’s become commonplace for men and boys to wear ball caps in even very nice restaurants down here. Drives me nuts.
 
dixieagle said:
It certainly used to be the norm for men to remove their hats, of any sort. Only very rarely will I see a boy or young man with a ball cap on in church; I have to fight all my instincts to snatch it off his head, and wonder why his dad or mom doesn’t,

It’s become commonplace for men and boys to wear ball caps in even very nice restaurants down here. Drives me nuts.
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Would they even know to take it off during the playing of the national anthem before a sporting event, one wonders.
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
In modern society it is not disrespectful to wear hats indoors. It’s just a culture change. It happens. Those who think it is are living in the past.
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How does the fact that there is a culture change where it is becoming more common for men to wear hats indoors (I’m not denying that) that it is no longer a sign of respect to remove one’s hat? You are the one talking about disrespect. I’m talking about showing respect. Some people don’t see anything wrong with “pants on the ground” or wearing pajamas to the store and anywhere else out in public. I see it all the time, some young man walking down the street or at the grocery store pulling his pants down below his buttocks showing his boxers. Those fads are now widely acceptable too or so it seems. Hardly anyone complains about it accept General Larry Platt Does it make those who do not follow those fads “old fashioned” “out of touch” “living in the past” ? Yes it is a fad to wear hats indoors now. But I still believe that removing one’s hat is a sign of respect that is not out of date.
 
dixieagle said:
It certainly used to be the norm for men to remove their hats, of any sort. Only very rarely will I see a boy or young man with a ball cap on in church; I have to fight all my instincts to snatch it off his head, and wonder why his dad or mom doesn’t,

It’s become commonplace for men and boys to wear ball caps in even very nice restaurants down here. Drives me nuts.
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Not that long ago at my parish a man came in behind me wearing a ball cap. After a few minutes it became apparent that he was not very familiar with the Mass so the next time everybody stood, I turned around, smiled, and said, “Sorry to bother you - I just wanted to let you know you should remove your hat.” And he smiled back and said, “Oh, I’m sorry,” and took it off.

No big deal. And if he’d chosen to mouth off at me I still wouldn’t have felt bad for **kindly **saying something. 🤷
 
Can we all at least agree that non-service dogs (like those little purse chihuahuas) have no business in church?

Guy sat down in the row in front of me at mass a few weeks back, after missing the first reading, with a tiny chihuahua in his arms. He set it down in the pew and let it wander around. Very distracting. The dog didn’t care for the sermon however and made a beeline for the door down the main aisle with her owner close on her heels.
 
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