Wedding Advice Please!

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MY BOYFRIEND PROPOSED!!!
Ok now that I’m done squealing, time to get to the serious business. We just started our junior year of college, which I know makes it sound young, but I’ve prayed and prayed about this and I feel that God is with me in this decision. Anyways, we’re not going to get married until we graduate college (so summer 2011 is looking like the prospective time for it). That gives me two years to plan this out. Any advice or tips from people about timelines/deadlines, money saver tips, etc, etc?

(By the way, before this gets confused, I’m in RCIA right now, and my parents have accepted the Catholic me and Catholic fiancé. And his parents are ecstatic to have us getting married. We ARE going to have a full on Catholic wedding, mass, Eucharist, and all! And no previous marriages for us to worry about at our age :D)
 
Congratulations! You two should make an appointment to see a priest as soon as possible. He will guide you through the process. Some parishes have wedding coordinators who’s job is to help you through the practical details. When my daughter got engaged, I found good information on a website called, “The Knot”. Sorry, I don’t have the link, but you can google it in no time. Peace and happiness to you both!! :clapping:
 
Congratulations to you and your new fiance! It is wonderful that you’re in RCIA; your nuptial Mass will be very special.

My first advice would be to take full advantage of all the marriage prep, Engaged Encounter, NFP classes, etc., that are offered in your diocese. It is so important to communicate and discuss with your fiance where you both stand on important issues; children, careers, money, sex… all of it, so there are no surprises. The FOCCUS questionnaire that you will likely complete during marriage prep will indicate areas that might need work. I am a big proponent of thorough preparation for Catholic marriage, especially with very young couples (both of my girls became engaged while in college, too.) This also puts the real focus on the important part of the wedding - the actual sacrament.

I would also recommend that you not go over the top with the wedding “trappings”; I don’t know if your parents will be footing the bill, or if you and your fiance will, but maintaining fiscal sanity is a good policy. You have plenty of time to plan, do research and get the best deals possible; you can have a truly lovely wedding without ending up in (or sending your parents to) the poor house!

God bless you, and best wishes at this very happy time.
 
The Knot does have some good info on wedding planning in various sections of their website (I found great pictures of bouquets that I printed and took to my florist), but their discussion boards are heinous. They are very foul mouthed, secular, and they will attack religious people without mercy. Stay away.

I suggest the book Bridal Bargains. It’s in about it’s 11th printing or something. If you have a “half priced books” type place, look there and you should find one cheap. Also, a Cranes Blue Book for etiquette and wording for invitations, etc.

Step one: make a budget. Find out who is paying for what, and how much they will contribute. Secondly, decide what’s most important to you and allocate your budget accordingly. I made all my invitations, programs, etc, and saved money there, and then I splurged a bit on a string quartet for the ceremony.

The sequence needs to be: secure the date, priest and the church. Then reception venue. Then everything else.

My biggest advice: don’t get so caught up in the wedding fever that you stress yourself into oblivion over “favors,” “guest bags,” and “bathroom baskets.” Honestly, not one guest at my wedding needed a bathroom basket with goodies in it. Ugh. Things can get so carried away! When you visit places like the Knot, you will find people who are making homemade jam for every guest, having real doves released as they leave, etc. Step away from the madness! Don’t get influenced by that stuff.

Focus on the Sacrament.
 
Congratulations!!! 😃

You already have great advice here. I agree with 1ke. The wedding sites like The Knot, WeddingChannel.com, and Brides.com have some nice reception ideas as well as being able to look at tons of bridal gowns and bridesmaids gowns. BUT, **keep away from the boards. ** They can be what 1ke described. The Knot, especially, can be really vicious. Some of those women assume the worse in people. And if you give them the right information on what is expected of a Catholic, sacramental marriage, you will sometimes get slammed for it.

The internet is definitely the place where most brides rely on to find out about wedding stuff - booking reception halls, caterers, florists, musicians, etc., but don’t rely on secular sites to give you the right info on Catholic weddings. I’ve come across some totally wrong information when I was planning my wedding. For instance, I remember one site was suggesting all these secular pieces of music for a Catholic wedding. One was Handel’s “Lascia ch’io pianga” from his opera “Rinaldo”. It’s gorgeous, but not only is it secular, that aria is also about asking to be left to cry and sigh over her cruel fate. :eek:

Most important - the sacrament comes first and foremost. Focus on that the entire time you are planning this wedding and it will help you from feeling totally bombarded with people and magazines telling you what you should be doing.

In regards to the rest of your wedding planning, two years is plenty of time to research the best prices and to save up. My husband and I had a two year engagement and although my parents paid for the bulk of the wedding, we also contributed to it, so it gave us enough time to save for that and for our honeymoon.

I will advise, when looking for a reception place, try to find something that is all-inclusive with a set price for everything from the appetizers to the cake the drinks/alcohol, etc. In my research discovered that things which look really affordable could end up being very expensive when you added together everything like the hors d’oerves, dessert and alcohol.

For florals, see if you can find a nursery which also has an in-house floral arranger, rather than a fancy floral shop. My mother and I priced around, then went to my best friend’s parents’ nursery by chance to buy flowers for her garden and discovered that they did bouquets and floral arrangements as well. What we paid was over half of what we were quoted at the floral shops and the girl who did the flowers did a gorgeous job.
 
Pick up a copy of Sheen’s “Three To Get Married” and read it before you read any magazines.
 
Congratulations, I agree with everyone on getting counseling and doing your marriage prep. My husband and I wish we had done a little more before getting married. Also realize that no amount of prep and counseling will prepare you for everything you will encounter in marriage, but it does help build the tools to deal with stuff that happens later.

I approached my wedding with the idea that it was going to be low stress and not cost a fortune. The low stress thing comes from realizing that this is just one day in your life, it’s a special day, and an important day, but a long lasting marriage and not stressing yourself to the point of a meltdown is more important. One of my cousins literally had a nervous breakdown planning her wedding, it was so not worth it. I also had to keep mine low stress as my husband and I were both working full time, both going to grad school, and remodeling his house to live in after the wedding. So freaking out about invitations was not an option, I was more concerned about how to study for finals and paint a room at the same time.

I agree with the poster above about finding a reception place that is all inclusive. Our reception place handled everything from the DJ to the catering, and it was awesome. I didn;t have to worry about it. It also ran seamlessly and cost a lot less that a family member who did it all seperately. I also decided to not have an open bar. I know there is a lot of debate on this, but we paid for the campagne and two rounds of beer or wine during dinner. Guest could get other cocktails, but had to buy them themselves. It makes the bill a lot cheaper, and avoids the whole drunken wedding guest making a fool of themselves situation. Also when the DJ works for the reception hall they are less likely to do something stupid with your playlist. I had a list of songs I wanted played, and ones I did not want to hear at all. My aunt tried to bribe the DJ to play the Chicken Dance, and he refused because playing something on the do not play list meant no more gigs with that reception hall.

Another thing I did was opt for fake flowers. If you watch Micheals and Hobby Lobby they mark their greenery and flowers down to 50% off several times a year. I spent about $450.00 on flowers which made all the corsages, my bouquet, my maid of honor’s bouquet, all the flowers for the church, and all the flowers for the reception hall. We had a flower making party at my mom’s house over one weekend and all our friends just drifted in and out and helped make all the flowers, it was really fun and cheap. The even cooler thing is that I still have all my flowers. I got married in December, and I use a lot of the flowers from my wedding as Christmas Decorations. It’s so much fun for my husband and I to get them out each year and remember the wedding. My cousin also did this and the two big vases of roses from her wedding sit on their fireplace year round. The only thing you might want to check is that many churches do require that any flowers placed on the alter be real.

I also opted for a small wedding party…only one maid of honor…If I had gone any bigger than that I would have had no easy cut off place for bridesmaids without makeing one of my family members mad. It was awesome cause my sister was in her senior year in High School and I told her to pick a bridemaid dress in the colors of the wedding that she could wear to prom, and she ended up with a great dress that she has won to prom and two college formals. Having only one bridesmaid also allowed me to spend more on her single present and get her something she would really treasure.

I also totally skipped the favors part of the whole thing, and seriously no one even noticed or cared. We skipped the professional video as well, our photographer made a DVD with our photos set to the wedding music, and a friend videod the ceremony from the choir loft. The one place we did splurge was the photographer, and that was well worth it, my album is so beautiful and something I look at a lot. Make sure that the price of your pictures included the rights to the negatives as well.

If you live in Colorado I can give you the name of an awesome bridal store in Arvada that has amazing decently priced dresses too.

Congratulations again and Good Luck.
 
Congratulations!!!

Since you’ve already received Sacrament preparation information, I’ll address some of the other stuff. 🙂
We just started our junior year of college, which I know makes it sound young, but I’ve prayed and prayed about this and I feel that God is with me in this decision. Anyways, we’re not going to get married until we graduate college (so summer 2011 is looking like the prospective time for it). That gives me two years to plan this out. Any advice or tips from people about timelines/deadlines, money saver tips, etc, etc?
My husband and I got engaged at 20, and married at 22, which sounds just about where you’re at right now. 😃

I would have to say the biggest money-saver for us was booking things at least 18 months in advance. Prices shot up like mad by the time we got married, so we saved a bundle (make sure the vendor will honor the current price and get everything in writing).

Time of year is another huge opportunity to save money… Get married in the “off-season.” For those of us in Arizona, prime wedding season is October through March, because the weather is far more pleasant during the fall/winter months. I imagine Texas is probably similar.

The most useful things I took away from The Knot, Wedding Channel, etc., were an event checklist and budget breakdown guideline. I modified the deadlines by adding at least a few months to most of what they listed (since most women don’t plan weddings over the course of 2 years, most of the original deadlines left me with nothing to do for months and months). I modified the budgets, too… Didn’t want a videographer, so that money went to my dress. 😃

Speaking of a dress (my absolute favorite part of wedding planning), there isn’t just one “perfect” dress out there… I’ve helped various people plan their weddings, and I can find several gorgeous dresses each year that I would’ve loved to wear, and I’ve been married nearly 6 years. Once you start dress shopping, and buy one, STOP looking. I can’t tell you how many brides end up with 2 or more dresses because they didn’t stop looking. It sounds silly, but it happens!

Planning so far in advance also allows you the opportunity to buy things here and there, spreading out the cost of everything, so it’s more affordable. My husband and I paid for the wedding ourselves, so it was a huge help to be able to slowly accumulate the little things that add up.

I experienced the worst case of sticker shock in my life, while planning for my wedding. Before creating a firm budget, shop around to get a feel for what everything costs. You can then decide what’s really important to keep and what you’re willing to discard. My husband was very involved in the wedding planning process, which left little room for our mothers (thank goodness) to “help” us decide what we did or did not want. 😉

I could go on forever… And ever… And ever… With wedding stuff. So I’ll be merciful and stop now, unless you have anything specific you really want me to answer.

God bless you!
 
MY BOYFRIEND PROPOSED!!!
Ok now that I’m done squealing, time to get to the serious business. We just started our junior year of college, which I know makes it sound young, but I’ve prayed and prayed about this and I feel that God is with me in this decision. Anyways, we’re not going to get married until we graduate college (so summer 2011 is looking like the prospective time for it). That gives me two years to plan this out. Any advice or tips from people about timelines/deadlines, money saver tips, etc, etc?

(By the way, before this gets confused, I’m in RCIA right now, and my parents have accepted the Catholic me and Catholic fiancé. And his parents are ecstatic to have us getting married. We ARE going to have a full on Catholic wedding, mass, Eucharist, and all! And no previous marriages for us to worry about at our age :D)
First of all, congratulations! 😃

I don’t generally think that long engagements are the best idea, but if you don’t feel you have any other choice, (because of school, etc.) then of course you’ll have to make the best of it.

I’m getting married in November of this year, and my own philosophy on weddings is don’t ruin the whole thing by making it a huge spectacle and stressing yourself out over it! There’s a lot of people who disagree, but since you started the thread I thought I’d drop you a line lol. You say you’re going to have the full-on Catholic wedding with the Mass, etc. which I think is great. You can still do all that and keep it stress-free, and not go broke at the same time-- if that’s what you want.

Here’s a good semi-recent thread about reasonable weddings:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=359802&highlight=wedding
 
Congratulations!

My advice is to contact your priest very soon. And then think seriously about getting married sooner than 2 years. You do need time to do all the pre-cana preparation, but you don’t need forever to actually plan the wedding. People in college can get married and do fine, so think about it.
 
Congratulations!

My advice is to contact your priest very soon. And then think seriously about getting married sooner than 2 years. You do need time to do all the pre-cana preparation, but you don’t need forever to actually plan the wedding. People in college can get married and do fine, so think about it.
I second this. I learned in my own marriage prep that the Church through the ages has usually advised against long engagements. There’s wisdom in Mother Church’s advice. 😉

If anyone would like me to dig up and post the actual documents/writings, I can. The usual rationale is that an engagement is a means to an end, merely a promise to be married. In contrast, modern secular thinking sees engagements as just another “phase” or stage of a relationship…a sort of pre-marriage marriage. Which if you think about it sort of demotes the actual marriage. Therefore --if circumstances allow-- a couple shouldn’t get engaged until they are ready to be married.

Just something to think about. 🙂
 
My daughter got married last summer.

Two pieces of advice

First piece of advice–hire my older daughter (the one who is still single) as your “wedding planner.” You’ll thank me over and over!

Seriously, I know you can’t hire my daughter, but find someone who is calm, cool, and who deals with crises without falling apart to help you with all the details. It might be your mother or your sister or your maid/matron of honor.

My older daughter is a professional stage manager, and she is used to dealing with twenty problems at once without getting upset or out of sorts. She’s also very comfortable doing business over the phone.

TWO days before the wedding, the boardinghouse that we had booked to house the wedding party (bridesmaids, groomsmen, sound man, pastor, musician etc.) called to tell us that due to extensive flooding (rainy spring), they had to close and would not be able to provide housing.

All of us were running around crying and ranting and sweating and shaking our heads, and of course, the my daughter, the bride, was hysterically sobbing. But while all the rest of us were acting crazy, my older daughter immediately got on the phone and calmly booked a lovely inn that just happened to have several rooms still open (miraculous). Although the inn didn’t have the Victorian charm that the boarding house would have had, it was still very comfortable and pleasant for the members of the wedding party. (And it was cheaper.)

And then she proceeded to calm all of us, especially her sister, down.

So find yourself a good person to take care of all the million details. You’ll be so glad you did.

Second piece of advice–don’t forget about your fiance while planning the wedding and DON’T FORGET ABOUT HIS MOTHER!

I know this sounds obvious, but many brides tend to totally overlook their fiance’s preferences, and instead, make him jump through hoops like a trained poodle, and then cry when he refuses to jump. And many brides do not include their future Mother-In-Law in much of the wedding prep.

My daughter’s fiance probably would have been happy to get married in a courtroom in front of a justice of the peace. But my daughter (and her older sister, the wedding planner) involved him as much as possible in various details like the food for the reception, the photographer, the car, etc. He wasn’t left out at all. My older daughter even included a game at the bridal shower in which he had to answer a series of questions (she called him in advance to get all his answers)–it was so much fun. (When asked how many children they wanted, he said two, and my daughter said six–it was hilarious, because that’s not what he expected to hear!)

Also, my daughter constantly involved her mother-in-law, who she was already close to since she started dating her son when he was just 16. A few weeks before the wedding, MIL and me, along with other family members, got together to decorate the veil (my veil–very old-fashioned, but we modernized it a bit for the wedding). Very precious time for all of us.

And as long as you asked, here is some more advice:

I agree with what many others are saying on this board. I’ll warn you, though, that no matter how determined you are to be thrifty and not go overboard, you will spend a lot more money than you planned, and there will be something that you will wish afterwards that you hadn’t invested in. My advice is to just go with it. Don’t get upset or fret or feel guilty. You’ll pay it off eventually (or your parents will), and the world will go on and you’ll be happy. Just relax. It’s your wedding–it will only happen once. That doesn’t mean that you have to go broke. But don’t fret over a few hundred dollars or so.

What do we regret? My daughter has two regrets about her wedding:
  1. She wishes she had followed my advice and invited EVERYONE she knows, instead of trying to limit the list. A lot of people ended up turning down the invitation, and she would have had plenty of room at the reception to acommodate more people, like her high school teachers, various school friends, old skating pals, etc. She was trying to be thrifty, and instead, ended up leaving out people that she would have love to have seen at the wedding.
  2. She wishes she had NOT had a flower girl that she didn’t know well. She invited her eight-year old cousin, and it was a disaster from the beginning, but we didn’t know that since the child lives in a far-away state. I won’t go into all the details, but for starters, her parents refused to allow her to miss school, so she left with her daddy on the plane at 10:30 at night the night before the wedding. They flew into an airport over a hundred miles away from us (cheaper), and didn’t arrive til one in the morning, and then they had a two hour drive to get to our city. The next morning (the wedding day), they arrived only a few minutes before the wedding (11:00 A.M. wedding), which meant no photo opportunities, and the bridesmaids had to get the little girl dressed and her hair done with only minutes to go. (My older daughter took charge of her and gave her instructions how to be a flower girl and threatened her life if she didn’t behave like an angel! We have a charming photo of my daughter’s hand on the little girls shoulder, and if you look close, you can see that it’s a death grip–the knuckles are white!) The little girl was sullen (probably tired) and unsociable and just plain ill-mannered and thoroughly unpleasant. We’ve found out since then that her parents are having her evaluated by a psychiatrist because her schoolteachers say that she is unable feel empathy for anyone, and is mean to the other kids.
My daughter wishes that she had invited her fiance’s cousin, who was 12 years old, possibly too old to be a flower girl, but she’s a sweetheart with great parents.

So think very carefully about any children you invite to be in the wedding. Make sure that they are your special pals and that you can trust them to behave in a way that you find acceptable. Don’t include children just to keep their parents happy or because everyone expects a cute child or two in the wedding.
 
instead of focusing on stuff focus on really neat traditions that you want to include, and special things you can do to unite the two families. i had a simple Catholic wedding, while i wish there had been a little more to it the things that stand out are when i walked with both parents up the isle because i felt they were both so important to me i had to have them both with me. also i took a flower out of my bouquet for my mother and mother in law and both my husban and i hugged and kissed both sets of parents. i thought that was nice. i would put lots more time into fun stuff like the music the readings.

and i know you didnt ask for this type of advice but…you are on pubilc forums so i guess you get it anyway… stay pure!!! it will be a long 2 years. and it can be hard when you know you are already commited to eachother and planning a wedding. resolve can slip!! Dont let it. Go to NFP classes and get good at your cycles now, it will make life later so much nicer! i wish i had had that chance…
last but not least, recipe for marriage success is getting smart financially. eventhough you can’t really combine things yet get on the same page about money. do dave ramsey together or seperately. we got married young and made a lot of good choices but the few bad ones live on!! money is such a stressor… a marriage without that would be almost perfect!

Congratulations on the engagement and on joining Gods Church!!!
 
If you’re looking for a good caterer, don’t forget to search online first, according to where you plan on getting married. For example, I got married in Indianapolis. When I searched for Catering Indianapolis I found some great options. Good luck!
 
Hey, I’m in the middle (literally - 4.5 months down, 4.5 months to got) of planning my own wedding. If you know anyone else, maybe we can swap advice or stories on a different thread.

So far, the best piece of advice I can give you, if your mother is ANYTHING like mine, is pick your battles BUT STILL INCLUDE HER. It’s your wedding, but it might be their money, and there are going to be clashes. Just recently, my mother and I got in a huge argument over invitations (this isn’t to say anything about the fights over guest list - she wants a much larger wedding with people I don’t know - and about my wedding dress). She thought the ones I found didn’t look like they gave the idea of an important occasion and wanted me to keep looking. What she didn’t know was that I had already been looking for MONTHS for invitations and was ready to order them because I didn’t like what else was out there. If she’d known about all the invites I’d looked at, she might have been less resistant to my choice. Since I found THAT out the hard way, I’m trying to do much better on including her in the cake tasting stuff and the other things that are coming up now in the wedding planning process.

Another piece of advice, similar to what someone already said - pick off-DAYS to save money. My fiance and I are both teachers, so summer is pretty much our only option, but we’re getting married on a Friday instead of a Saturday. Fridays, Sundays, Saturday mornings, and weekdays are not nearly as popular as Saturday afternoon and you can get discounts (we’re getting 15% off our reception site, which includes dinner and a guest room block, simply because of our date). Plus, if you get married on an off-day, such as a Monday or Wednesday, you’ll have a die-hard group of people who really want to see you get married there, and the wedding will be that much more special.

Let me know if you need anything else, especially if you’re in the DC/NoVa area.
 
My best piece of advice: remember your wedding day and all your planning WILL NOT go smoothly or as perfect as you’ve always pictured it to be. If you do keep that in mind, the bumps and the troubles sometimes turn out to be the best things you remember about your wedding day. Ex: my dress had a pretty long train on it, and when I went to place the flowers at the statue of Mary, the train caught on a piece of carpeting and there is the best man trying frantically to “unhook” my train and doing a little dance in the process on the wedding video. Some brides may think that is a disaster, me and my husband chuckle everytime we watch the tape. Little things like that, and even what you think are huge things, will happen during the time you are planning and on your wedding day. Just remember its all part of the beginning of the journey of marriage and not an indication of the marriage. The wedding is just the start, its what comes after that is the best part of life.
Plus what you think everyone else will see and notice, they probably won’t.

Also, you will not please everyone, someone will cry. Everyone says to involve the mother and mother-in-law, I say don’t forget to involve your fiance. Make him just as much a part of the planning, its his day too.

And just to repeat what someone else said: talk to the priest, set a date, get the reception hall. You can’t do anything else until you do those three.

Maybe getting married a bit before you both graduate wouldn’t be that big of a deal, unless it means a big fiasco with living arrangements. I had already graduated from college when I met my husband and had moved back home with my parents for a bit, but he had gone back to college after taking some time off. We set the date for right after he graduated and he was also in ROTC at the time, so it was literally one weekend he graduated, the next weekend he got commissioned, the next weekend was our wedding. Looking back on it, we realize we really should have gotten married over his winter break. His parents had this crazy notion he wouldn’t graduate college if we got married before he did. There was just so much going on right before our wedding, there are parts of the pre-wedding activities that are a blur that I wish now I could have enjoyed more if we had gotten married earlier.
 
…but their discussion boards are heinous. They are very foul mouthed, secular, and they will attack religious people without mercy. Stay away.
BUT, **keep away from the boards. ** They can be what 1ke described. The Knot, especially, can be really vicious. Some of those women assume the worse in people. And if you give them the right information on what is expected of a Catholic, sacramental marriage, you will sometimes get slammed for it.
(1ke & Sarabande — Easter - my plan is to get my bridal site back up and running again. You really make me realize there is a need for it, which I’ve always known, but I must MUST get back to it. We had such a nice thing going. Thank you for the reminder!! :o )

idpatel - you have received SO much wonderful advice here, all I can add is my own congratulations!!! And second, third, fourth, whatever… focus on the Sacrament and your vocation as a married couple. Putting these things first, everything else will fall in line.
😃

~Liza
 
I’ve not read all the posts so I apologize if this has been mentioned, but I would recommend that you and your fiance take Dave Ramsey’s Financial Peace University. It is offered at most churches – if not yours, more than likely one in your area. It’s also available online. This will put you two on the same path with money – at least talking about what your path will be 😃 – and that could only be good for your marriage. I know your advice was about weddings; but this could help in that, too, with wedding budgeting.
 
I got engaged my junior year of college and married the summer after graduation. We had been dating for about 4 years at that point so we had many ideas of what we already wanted, but here is my advice.

Get a 3 ring binder and put some dividers in it:
Ceremony
Reception Hall
Invitations
DJ/Band
Cake
Flowers
Photographer
Rings
Dress
Bridesmaid Attire
Groomsmen Attire
etc.
Fill the rest with some clear sleeves so you can stick stuff in them. Start gathering ideas and putting them in there. This will help you feel organized and in control a.k.a. not stressed out. Good thing is you have plenty of time to shop around and get prices and compare.

If you have the date, you can get started with a lot of the planning. Book the church, hall, photographer, flowers, cake, dj/band in advance. The details can be decided as time goes on, many of those just require a deposit.

Most of all my advice is to relax and really try to enjoy the day because it takes a long time to plan and then it just flies by!
 
OK Here goes:
  1. The Knot.com had some great planning guides and budget calculators - but yes stay off the discussion boards - they also had great hair, makeup, and floral pics.
  2. Don’t go to a florist if you can help it. I had a crafty friend we got all our flowers through e-bay (fake so they still look as good as they did at the wedding) and they were cheaper - my friend did them as her wedding gift - would have cost thousands - cost less than 100.
  3. Bridesmaids gifts - go jewelry that way you do not have to set rules for this type of thing
  4. FOCUS testing - if your Parish doesn’t usually offer it - ask for it!!!
  5. Pray, pray, pray
  6. If you aren’t chaste - do this for each other, God, and yourselves. My dh and I weren’t and we did and Wow.
Hope that helped.
 
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