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We sang “fair fat and wide.”
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TheLittleLady
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We were not Catholic when we married.
Our entrance was an original composition on classical guitar, our recessional was the same guitarist and soloist singing U2’s “All I Want Is You”.
During the ceremony we had a professional alto sing “The Lord’s Prayer”.
Our entrance was an original composition on classical guitar, our recessional was the same guitarist and soloist singing U2’s “All I Want Is You”.
During the ceremony we had a professional alto sing “The Lord’s Prayer”.
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CMKrauss
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Morning Has Broken
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IdaCatholic
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Married in advent. Entrance song was Jesu the joy of man’s desiring
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CoffeeFanatic
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My parents had this at their wedding. My mother’s main instrument was pipe organ and I can see why she chose this song.
Mendelssohn’s ‘War March of the Priests’
Mendelssohn’s ‘War March of the Priests’
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hcruz402
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In my honest opinion, weddings should not be celebrated during Advent, Lent, or the Triduum, due to the penitential nature of these liturgical seasons, but that is probably another discussion for another time.
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hcruz402
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When you have centuries of great music to choose from (propers, traditional hymns, etc.), why resort to the 70’s folk songs? Besides, none of those songs (i.e., “All Are Welcome,” “Gather Us In,” “We Are Called,” “City of God,” etc.) are really wedding-appropriate.
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IdaCatholic
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It’s a good thing your opinion is not the Church opinion. But let’s play in the sandbox of your theology for a second. Lent, roughly 6 weeks, advent roughly 4 weeks, so that’s 10 weeks, which is roughly 70 days. Plus all fridays as a day of penance minis the 10 fridays in lent and advent that we already counted that’s 112 days, do the same thing for sundays that you do for fridays because of parish logistics of having several Masses for the priest that day and you have 154 days so far that you would ban weddings. About a 3rd of a year. So, in a world and Church where marriage is suffering and misunderstood and failing, you want to relegate anyone who wants to get married to a handful of Saturdays and Tuesdays for weddings!? Or are sorrowful mystery days out too? How about the feast of a martyr? You see? It doesnt reach a logical conclusion. It isn’t practical, nor does it match theology. My wedding was Dec. 15th. It was the first day after my wife’s last final for the semester. It also happens to be my birthday, years later my 4th child was born on my birthday/ anniversary. Appropriate I think. And certainly a day of providence for us. I’m guessing you are not married. But when you are, it is pretty important to keep the solemn nature of the sacrament and do so in a holy manner. I suspect many readers on here have broken the “rules” you stated. Perhaps some saints too. Baptisms, marriages, etc belong some penitential times. Because the life of the Church does not stop. I believe advent is a highly appropriate time to get married. Marriage lays the foundation for children like advent laid the foundation for the Holy Child. And I’m glad the Church, discipline, theology, and calandar agrees with me.
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JulianN
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Because if the Church allows it, you are allowed to choose it.
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ProVobis
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So is there any music the Church disallows?
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JulianN
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Oh sure. Many pastors don’t allow Lohengrin’s wedding march, for example.
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Michael_Anthony
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This song is actually forbidden in a Catholic wedding (I don’t know why, but I think it had something to do with the theology of the lyrics).
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Loud-living-dogma
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Yeah, well the Church has “agreed with you” for roughly 50-some years. And “disagreed with you” for who-knows-how-many centuries.
Steering Wedding Dates away from Advent & Lent
Embracing the Spirit of the Liturgical Calendar
www.ccwatershed.org
People do still avoid Lent and Advent (or are advised to do so):
http://www.catholicweddinghelp.com/wedding-planning/04-setting-date.htm
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IdaCatholic
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Well first off, I am not 50 years old, so the last 50 years would be the entirety of the governing laws of my Catholic life. And second. Your position is just well, odd. If you are asserting that there are not couples with anniversaries that are in advent prior to 50 years ago in the Church then well, I suggest you could easily take a gander at your parish records or better yet ask some people celebrating some septuagenarian anniversaries.
Sometimes things like this just don’t make sense.
That being said. Our wedding was indeed in the spirit of advent. The dresses were liturgically colored, the music was appropriate to the time. It was a 10 am Wedding and was incredibly beautiful at the Cathedral. We are incredibly traditional and are very aware of the liturgical satisfactions that need attention. A marriage is penitential in nature. That isn’t a dig at marriage. It is true. It is sacrificing something for someone else, it is physical and emotional fasting and penance. It is just as beautiful as a penitential time. And we have modeled our marriage after that.
Just curious as to the liturgical dates and choices of your marriage. Care to share?
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en.wikipedia.org
Skip down to the history of marriage in the Church. Absolutely fascinating. There was no sacramental development of marriage until the middle ages. People were not married in liturgy or by a priest but according to cultural norms. Which means they could do so at any time. So for the majority of Catholic history you could marry whenever you wished.
The whole thing is really interesting.
Sometimes things like this just don’t make sense.
That being said. Our wedding was indeed in the spirit of advent. The dresses were liturgically colored, the music was appropriate to the time. It was a 10 am Wedding and was incredibly beautiful at the Cathedral. We are incredibly traditional and are very aware of the liturgical satisfactions that need attention. A marriage is penitential in nature. That isn’t a dig at marriage. It is true. It is sacrificing something for someone else, it is physical and emotional fasting and penance. It is just as beautiful as a penitential time. And we have modeled our marriage after that.
Just curious as to the liturgical dates and choices of your marriage. Care to share?
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Marriage in the Catholic Church - Wikipedia
Skip down to the history of marriage in the Church. Absolutely fascinating. There was no sacramental development of marriage until the middle ages. People were not married in liturgy or by a priest but according to cultural norms. Which means they could do so at any time. So for the majority of Catholic history you could marry whenever you wished.
The whole thing is really interesting.
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Tis_Bearself
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The Lohengrin march isn’t “forbidden” for Catholics. It was actually the Lutherans who objected to the Wagner opera it was taken from as containing pagan themes.
Some Catholic dioceses in USA have issued guidelines against the March as being too secular, but the lyrics aren’t generally an issue, particularly since the song is played as an instrumental. Some pastors also don’t like it for whatever reason, and forbid it. Other dioceses and pastors will let you use it.
I wanted it because growing up I attended about 10 weddings for my various Catholic cousins in Catholic churches and almost all of them used it. I was married at a Nuptial Mass in a Catholic church, and before I even picked songs I was specifically told by the pastor and music director that everything I chose had to come from the church’s standard hymnal, the exception being the March which they permitted for wedding processions if I wanted it (obviously it was not in the hymnal). So I had the March, like all my cousins.
Edited to add, I had the traditional recessional also.
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Michael_Anthony
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I’m pretty sure it is (or at least is supposed to be) the guy in this video is a Franciscan Friar, and now a priest. While I haven’t agreed with everything I’ve ever heard him say/write, but he seems pretty solid all around (the only disagreement was on whether or not it was theologically possible for Satan to be saved, he said yes, but Satan would never due to pride, I said it was impossible). In short though, I have no reason not to believe him on this.
Tis_Bearself
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If you look at the many past threads on CAF about this topic you’ll find the same answer I just gave: that some dioceses forbid it, some pastors also forbid it, and then there are dioceses and pastors who will let you have it, and maybe let you have all kinds of other secular songs as well.
I was completely unaware there was even any controversy about it until well after my wedding because like I said it was at almost every Catholic family wedding that I attended in the 1970s, all of which were Masses and most of which took place at the same parish in the Diocese of Buffalo. I myself was married in the 1990s in the Archdiocese of Baltimore. Can’t speak for what they were doing anywhere else. Again if you check the past threads there are people saying they werent allowed to have it in the 1970s.
I was completely unaware there was even any controversy about it until well after my wedding because like I said it was at almost every Catholic family wedding that I attended in the 1970s, all of which were Masses and most of which took place at the same parish in the Diocese of Buffalo. I myself was married in the 1990s in the Archdiocese of Baltimore. Can’t speak for what they were doing anywhere else. Again if you check the past threads there are people saying they werent allowed to have it in the 1970s.
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The banns are omitted in the case of revalidation of marriage (Sägmüller, 489) and secret marriages i.e. regularly performed in the church, but behind closed doors, and the record of which, together with the pertinent baptisms, is kept in a special book in the diocesan chancery (Ballerini-Palmiere, op. cit., VI. 778). Dispensation from all the banns is regularly granted only for a very urgent reason; less weighty reasons suffice for a dispensation from two publications or from one. Among the reasons recognized by the law, other than that mentioned by the Council of Trent; are: notable difference of age, or condition of life; peril of the good name of either party; the approach of Advent or Lent, when marriage cannot be solemnized; notable temporal or spiritual detriment; imminent departure of the bride-groom; etc. The diocesan chancery usually charges a fee to cover the clerical expenses, it being forbidden to make any charge for the dispensation itself (S. Cong. of Propaganda to the bishops of Ireland, 12 February, 1821; cf. its decree of 1750; also the Encyclical of 1768 to the same bishops, and Collectanea S. Cong. prop. Fid., Rome, 1893. 1221). At times the parish priest collects a fee for the publication of banns (Von Scherer, 147); it is reckoned as one of his jura stolæ , or casual sources of revenue.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02255a.htm
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02255a.htm
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In the Wikipedia article you yourself cited - - it states this:
So, yes, the preconciliar Church did not allow weddings during Advent or Lent. This has been the practice of the Church for many centuries, and only for 50 years or so that the Church has "agreed with you" that it is okay to have a wedding during Advent or Lent.
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