Wedding without Dispensation

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Is a Catholic Wedding that took place in the Catholic Church by a Catholic priest without a needed dispensation still be recognized as a proper Catholic Wedding?
 
I’m not sure how this could occur.

Either the priest knew of the lack of dispensation and performed the wedding anyway, which is a problem, and would require explanation,
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The priest did not know that a dispensation was needed, and the couple deceived him, which then casts doubts upon the couple and their intentions and respect for the Sacraments.
 
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In the first case, yes, that’s possible. But there are other reasons the priest might not have known about the dispensation–it could have also been the negligence of the priest in not investigating everything before the marriage. It depends on what it is, though, as to whether a dispensation was even needed and what effect it has on anything.
 
for a Catholic and a non Catholic to be married in the catholic church
 
Is this a hypothetical situation?

If not and this has actually occurred, more information is needed.
 
Maximilian75 said:
I’m not sure how this could occur.

Either the priest knew of the lack of dispensation and performed the wedding anyway, which is a problem, and would require explanation,
Or
The priest did not know that a dispensation was needed, and the couple deceived him, which then casts doubts upon the couple and their intentions and respect for the Sacraments.
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or the dispensation was asked for and recieved by the priest himself and that dispensation was not properly explained (or explained at all) to the couple. This happens ALL.THE.TIME. Someone I know invited an out-of-state priest to celebrate his wedding. The priest recieved the required faculities without my friend knowing and he didn’t realize it was a thing until the bachellor party. He had a horrible moment of panic but Father had taken care of it all.
 
If a Catholic marries a non-Catholic baptized Christian, then a permission by the competent authority is required, but this is not necessary for validity. It is illicit, but still valid, and even sacramental, since both parties are baptized.

If a Catholic marries a non-Christian, then a dispensation from disparity of cult is required, and this is necessary for validity.
 
It sounds almost as if you have a second spose at the same time, if there’s no dispensation.
 
That’s valid.

The couple does not necessarily have bad intentions.
 
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Is a Catholic Wedding that took place in the Catholic Church by a Catholic priest without a needed dispensation still be recognized as a proper Catholic Wedding?
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Are you sure dispensation didn’t happen? Sometimes priests file the paperwork without the couple even knowing about it.
 
You probably need to speak to the priest who performed the wedding or the pastor of the parish where the wedding took place about this.
 
Maximilian75 said:
That’s valid.

The couple does not necessarily have bad intentions.
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Unfortunately, when it comes to things that need dispensations too often priests just do it themselves rather than explain the process. I live in a diocese in which parish is defined loosely and not simply by the town of residence. Mostly because in rural New England you may not have a parish in your town, or you may be much closer to St. Hickville’s parish than St. Podunk’s parish because the town of Podunk saddles a mountain.

However, in a few states over, parishes are highly geographical and you go where you are assigned. Those who are attending other parishes, even if enrolled, cannot actually be considered a parishioner for any sacraments. So often the priests will contact eachother so as not to cause a scene. And all of the inner workings of this are often as clear as mud to most people.
 
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There was no dispensation in the marriage investigation folder
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That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen in some form or another. The priest himself would have to be consulted for the full truth.
 
Humans do make mistakes sometimes. The paperwork could have been misfiled. Just call the Diocese.
 
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There was no dispensation in the marriage investigation folder
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If the non-Catholic is baptized, as you indicate, then there wouldn’t be any dispensation paperwork in the folder because no dispensation is required.

And unless you are the pastor, you should not be in the marriage investigation folder.

And if you have a question about what is or isn’t in a folder, you should ask your pastor.
 
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