Weddings we shouldn't attend?

[Irishgal49]

I am sorry for the loss of your friend’s son, you are in my prayers. I am glad also to hear that your son is doing better than he was.

I am far from being holy nor have I stated that I am going to show someone how holy I am nor am I holier than anyone else here, I am a sinner in need of God’s grace.

Not attending an act of Sacrilege no matter who it is comitted by I think is one of the most loving things a person can do. A civil ceremony btw is not necessarily sacriligeous in any way. True love holds concern for a person’s soul above all else.

I would never stop speaking to someone or reject them as a friend or family member because of their choices. That doesn’t mean I will be there when they actually commit the act, just like I wouldn’t take an alcoholic out to a bar for a round of drinks. Being there as a guest is support in my book. The Church teaching on the subject seems consistent with this from everything I have read.

Attending a wedding that a person “knows is doomed” (which really is impossible btw) is not the same as attending a “marriage” that you know to be invalid, especially the Sacrilege of a homosexual “marriage”. Either Christ’s words were true about marriage or they were not. If they are then we must obey Him.

Sometimes the truth is hard and may come off as harsh to people, but I won’t “love” someone into losing their salvation, no matter if they were my own sibling, parent, or child. I just won’t do it. I believe that this is consistent with Church teaching.

It has nothing to do about my or any else’s personal holiness or lack there of. It has to do with the Holiness of the Sacraments, and God’s precious Grace and how he grants it to us through them.

The majority of the world does not live by our standards and most are not Catholic and even practicing Catholics often do not get married in Catholic Churches, so therefore you probably can’t do much of anything without encountering sacrilege. I cannot and will not abstain from attending my gay son’s wedding or my others son’s “court house wedding” whether or not I agree with what he’s doing. He’s never been Catholic and never will be if I convey that attitude.

My son would interpret my absence as a judgment and criticism and would NOT ever come to see that as a loving act. Who would? He is NOT Catholic or Christian and that’s what’s key. If he was a Catholic and refused to abide by the Church’s teachings then that might be different. I’d still go but it would be reason for me to really confront him. I will always go, but I can be quiet and keep him in my prayers. I know my family and I know what witnesses to them of love and what does not. Most people take your absence as a rejection of their event and as the Mom that is not acceptable to me.

I cannot be arrogant, and that seems like total arrogance and telling people, “I know what God wants you to do and since you’re not doing it, I’m not going.” Wow! I have never been told that I am appointed by God to say that, and between you and me, I NEVER EVER want to.

I will always be at my children and grand-children’s life events. I am the only Catholic so it’s my chance to witness to them of my love and the love of God. Did you know that God is at their wedding? God is everywhere…and I will use every opportunity to talk about putting God first in their lives, especially at these big life events. I don’t have to stay for hours on end. I can eat dinner at the reception and then leave. I will attend the weddings, I always do…none of them are valid in the eyes of the Church anyway, so I will not show people that Catholics are arrogant and lacking in compassion.

Not showing up if my gay son got married would be cruel and selfish and rude. I will never do that. I will never apologize for loving him and and I am not wrong. I am his mother and I will be his mother no matter what. I will love him and continue to witness to him what God’s love can do for him and I will be there and I will always be nearby whenever he needs me.

My son introduced me to a friend and I had my rosary out and my son (the one who is gay) said, “Yeah my mom is Catholic but don’t worry, she isn’t one of those annoying, preaching kind. She’s for real.” That is case closed for me.

 

[TrueLight]

Not showing up if my gay son got married would be cruel and selfish and rude.

I’m just going to say I think you’re sorely mistaken.

I will never do that. I will never apologize for loving him and and I am not wrong. I am his mother and I will be his mother no matter what. I will love him and continue to witness to him what God’s love can do for him and I will be there and I will always be nearby whenever he needs me.

You are mixing up love for your child with condoning and approving of sinful behavior.

My son introduced me to a friend and I had my rosary out and my son (the one who is gay) said, “Yeah my mom is Catholic but don’t worry, she isn’t one of those annoying, preaching kind. She’s for real.” That is case closed for me.

Yes, my youngest daughter saw me as a “cool” mom too before I converted. Now she doesn’t think I"m so cool, but I can tell she is beginning to ponder the things I have been recently telling her.

Irishgal, there is a lot I can say but out of charity because of the pain you’ve experienced in your life, which I think won’t allow you to be open to what I would like to say, I think I will stop here.

 

[Irishgal49]

I’m just going to say I think you’re sorely mistaken.

You are mixing up love for your child with condoning and approving of sinful behavior.

Yes, my youngest daughter saw me as a “cool” mom too before I converted. Now she doesn’t think I"m so cool, but I can tell she is beginning to ponder the things I have been recently telling her.

Irishgal, there is a lot I can say but out of charity because of the pain you’ve experienced in your life, which I think won’t allow you to be open to what I would like to say, I think I will stop here.

Thank you for your being kind and I know I’m right in what I’m doing. God bless you for your kind remarks.

Lorrie

 

[charlc]

I pray God the Holy Spirit will through the intercession of St Augustine, whose memorial we celebrate today, grant wisdom to those who read these trend. Many contributors have said a lot on this issue. For the souls of my darling brothers and sisters who do not realize the danger they expose themselves by compromising their faith, I am making this contribution. Let’s remind us that issues that appear right humanly may be wrong spiritually. Reflect on the story of the rich man and father Abraham; also the story of the 5 foolish virgins. Humanly, we may say father Abraham wasn’t merciful. Then we would miss the teaching. God gave us free will. However, we will account for how we use our will at the last day. I pray we allow the teaching of our holy Catholic Church guide us to salvation. Our Lord Jesus didn’t force anyone to repent and believe in the good news. His apostles and the holy Church do not force anyone to convert and believe in the Church’s teaching also.

Our Lord Jesus Christ wants all of us to love the Father with our whole heart, might and strength; to serve him and to return safely back to him when our tent expires. That’s the reason He came down to teach us how to do the will of His father. I pray we do not harden our heart and work out our salvation.

 

[charlc]

I pray God the Holy Spirit will through the intercession of St Augustine, whose memorial we celebrate today, grant wisdom to those who read these trend. Many contributors have said a lot on this issue. For the souls of my darling brothers and sisters who do not realize the danger they expose themselves by compromising their faith, I am making this contribution. Let’s remind us that issues that appear right humanly may be wrong spiritually. Reflect on the story of the rich man and father Abraham; also the story of the 5 foolish virgins. Humanly, we may say father Abraham wasn’t merciful. Then we would miss the teaching. God gave us free will. However, we will account for how we use our will at the last day. I pray we allow the teaching of our holy Catholic Church guide us to salvation. Our Lord Jesus didn’t force anyone to repent and believe in the good news. His apostles and the holy Church do not force anyone to convert and believe in the Church’s teaching also.

Our Lord Jesus Christ wants all of us to love the Father with our whole heart, might and strength; to serve him and to return safely back to him when our tent expires. That’s the reason He came down to teach us how to do the will of His father. I pray we do not harden our heart and work out our salvation.

 

[TrueLight]

TrueLight…I pray, meditate, and send energy that you will learn from Irishgal’s all-loving, thoroughly Christ-like example.
If more Catholics were like Irishgal, more people would be Catholic.

DaddyGirl, I really tried not to address you, but since you addressed me…

Please stop with the mockery and patronizing.

You may not agree with a viewpoint, but you don’t have to put people down for their opinions.

We are not the ones stumbling around.

It pains me to watch you go, in the span of a year, from a questioning Catholic who had some issues with Catholic teaching to “off the record”. No need to meditate and send me energy. Been there done that with the new age/pagan stuff.

I pray that our Lord will embrace you and blind you from the perils of this world with the light of his mercy and love as he did to St Paul on the road to Damascus. And then draw you back to him.

I will keep praying for you.

Irishgal, thanks for taking my post in the intention that I meant to convey, even though we don’t agree.

Even though you don’t agree with a lot of us, please know that we bother to post out of love and concern.

I would also caution you to note that those giving you shout-outs are not necessarily Catholic, so their advice might not square with Catholic teaching.

I have not experienced your tragedies, but I am a mom so I see where your heart is.

God bless.

 

[FromTheAshes777]

DaddyGirl, I really tried not to address you, but since you addressed me…

Please stop with the mockery and patronizing.

You may not agree with a viewpoint, but you don’t have to put people down for their opinions.

We are not the ones stumbling around.

It pains me to watch you go, in the span of a year, from a questioning Catholic who had some issues with Catholic teaching to “off the record”. No need to meditate and send me energy. Been there done that with the new age/pagan stuff.

I pray that our Lord will embrace you and blind you from the perils of this world with the light of his mercy and love as he did to St Paul on the road to Damascus. And then draw you back to him.

I will keep praying for you.

Irishgal, thanks for taking my post in the intention that I meant to convey, even though we don’t agree.

Even though you don’t agree with a lot of us, please know that we bother to post out of love and concern.

I would also caution you to note that those giving you shout-outs are not necessarily Catholic, so their advice might not square with Catholic teaching.

I have not experienced your tragedies, but I am a mom so I see where your heart is.

God bless.

+1

Truelight, you have a much better gift for addressing these situations and different view points than I do. Thank you for your contribution and standing up for the truth. Bless you.

~Josh

 

[TrueLight]

+1

Truelight, you have a much better gift for addressing these situations and different view points than I do. Thank you for your contribution and standing up for the truth. Bless you.

~Josh

Thank you. I appreciate that because I usually fail miserably as some can attest.

 

[Irishgal49]

I pray God the Holy Spirit will through the intercession of St Augustine, whose memorial we celebrate today, grant wisdom to those who read these trend. Many contributors have said a lot on this issue. For the souls of my darling brothers and sisters who do not realize the danger they expose themselves by compromising their faith, I am making this contribution. Let’s remind us that issues that appear right humanly may be wrong spiritually. Reflect on the story of the rich man and father Abraham; also the story of the 5 foolish virgins. Humanly, we may say father Abraham wasn’t merciful. Then we would miss the teaching. God gave us free will. However, we will account for how we use our will at the last day. I pray we allow the teaching of our holy Catholic Church guide us to salvation. Our Lord Jesus didn’t force anyone to repent and believe in the good news. His apostles and the holy Church do not force anyone to convert and believe in the Church’s teaching also.

Our Lord Jesus Christ wants all of us to love the Father with our whole heart, might and strength; to serve him and to return safely back to him when our tent expires. That’s the reason He came down to teach us how to do the will of His father. I pray we do not harden our heart and work out our salvation.

I was thinking you would make an awesome Baptist. I had a Baptist pastor who used to “preach” his prayers the same way. This is preaching, not praying but there were some nice things said in it.

I guess whatever side you are on in this debate, a good talk with an understanding priest would be best as each of us have individual situations that don’t always have a pat answer.

Blessings,

Lorrie