Weekend in Williamsburg, Brooklyn

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As most of you probably know, Williamsburg is the center for hipster culture and the hipster lifestyle. Anyway, my brother, Eli, has been living in Williamsburg for two years, and he recently asked me to come and stay with him for the weekend. I went and had a thoroughly enjoyable time. We went to an arts festival, shopped for vinyl records, saw some indie musicians, and went to this great little bookstore. Sadly, all is not well. I am a science student in graduate school, and I will admit that my parents help me out financially. However, my brother seems to take their aid to an extreme. He is very intelligent, but I fear that he has become too wrapped up in the hipster dream. Our parents pay for his apartment. Eli and his girlfriend, Rachel, hardly pay anything to my parents. Eli and Rachel are artists, who sometimes work at the local record store. I am a painter myself, but I realize that I must be practical and have other pursuits. Rachel’s parents send money to them for clothes (they mix vintage with some expensive designers), food, and most of their other needs. My parents recently paid for them to go to France for a month, where Eli and Rachel pursued their interests in photography. Basically, they live the good life, and I think they need to take more responsibility. Is this “mooching” morally wrong?
 
Sadly, no, I don’t think it is morally wrong, and Eli clearly doesn’t either.
Why would he?
If your folks keep sending him the money, why would he think he SHOULDN’T take it?
It’s tacky and immature to do so but not immoral.
I’m guessing (correct me if I’m wrong here) that your folks are just sending him the money, no questions asked. So, I’m sure Eli feels that he doesn’t need to change anything of how he’s living, probably assuming that if your folks didn’t want to give him the money, then they’d stop.
At least that’s my guess.
I guess what I’m getting at is…has anyone TOLD Eli that maybe he should make some coin of his own? I know ALOT of otherwise REALLY smart people who couldn’t figure out that part of being a grown-up meant that you paid your own bills. They honestly just didn’t see the connection.
Have you talked to your folks about this?
Here’s what I DO know…my husband’s grandparents passed away two years ago.
And it was only then that the family discovered that Uncle Steve was the recipient of a generous stipend from his mother of $900 per month.
Do the math here.
A 50-something year old man was getting an ALLOWANCE (a FAT one at that!) from his 70-something year old parents. Sad. Really sad.
And when they died, there was no money. No more money for Uncle Steve, so he had to downsize his lifestyle. At 55, he was cut off.
It’s FAR easier to get cut off in your 20s, than in your 50s.
That’s all I’m sayin.
I don’t know that your folks are doing Eli any favors (though I’m sure their hearts are in the right place).
PS - My husband was a grad student in science (now he’s a post-doc). I think child laborers in China get paid more than he did. The wages they pay scientists are pitiful. Just my two cents.
 
I know what you mean, yellowbicycle. I think Eli is just used to this treatment from how we were raised. I seriously think I might talk to him about his lifestyle soon. I also am only one year into grad school and thinking of quitting to go to med school across the country. America has its priorities way off. We need to put more emphasis on science, but this country just loves sports. Oh well, back to Eli.
 
I actually just moved from Williamsburg about three months ago. I can assure you that this is the lifestyle of many people in that particular area. It’s the hipster paradise, as you stated. I think you need to be firm and honest with your brother. Tell him that you don’t think it’s proper that he leeches off your parents. I’m not sure about his moral culpability, but there is no reason why an intelligent, grown man should be acting in such a manner.
 
Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut, Macbook Fun. I will speak with him shortly, but first I might approach my parents to say that they might ultimately be hindering him.
 
I don’t think your talk will do any good until you are living with out support from your parents. Why should he listen to you if you aren’t supporting yourself?

Unless , there are financial issues for your parents . Either now or possibly in the future then you need to speak up. And stop taking money. Unless your parents are doing really well and just love giving to thier kids. Then what’s the big deal?
 
The difference is that I am currently studying and plan to be financially independent, while my brother does not seem to have such a plan.
 
Grace & Peace!

On the other hand, making a living in the arts is quite difficult. In New York, it can be particularly vicious.

I don’t know your brother’s situation, his ambitions, etc. Nor do I know yours. But from what you’ve written, I’m going to assume that your brother’s art is not an avocation but an actual vocation. I don’t know if he’s any good, if he has talent or vision. I don’t know if he’s accepting the money from your parents as a first step in getting himself established in an incredibly competitive field in which any leg up is particularly useful. But assuming that he has talent, vision, ambition and a plan, removing the support he receives from your folks may scuttle the plan, douse the ambition, deaden the vision and lead to the talent being squandered.

I have no particular love for hipsterdom and generally see Williamsburg as self-parodying or something of a joke, the butt of which are the affluent indolent. However, I’m conscious that that’s a very convenient stereotype. And while my ambivalence toward hipsterism is both political and aesthetic, I have no doubt that there are genuine artists living and growing there.

And let’s face it, our culture could care less about the arts. We would prefer something more practical–probably something involving numbers. Figures. Data analysis. Spreadsheets. If someone must be talented, let them be talented in secret and suffer like the rest of us. As a culture, we’ve a curious relationship to the beauty and provocation of art–we don’t quite know what to do with it and wish, I think, that it would just go away. This makes things very difficult for artists.

But, to be honest, I don’t think practicality is a particularly useful thing here, at least not in the way it’s generally understood. We are always far too practical for own good. When I hear of someone’s friend who was a double major in theater and economics, let’s say, I figure they’ve likely become an accountant. The moment one has a dream or a vision and then says, “I must be practical, I must have a failsafe” is the moment the dream is put off. Because pursuing the dream is ultimately difficult. And the moment the dream gets hard is the moment we employ the failsafe. At which point the dream is over. And for the most part, it’s inevitable–devising a plan B is an excuse to avoid the hardship of plan A. Most of the great artists did not have a plan B. Their need to produce art drove them inexorably onward to do whatever was necessary for them to be able to express themselves as clearly and uncompromisingly as possible.

That having been said, I don’t think the issue here is one of practicality but, indeed, of responsibility. But not responsibility in the sense of “being a responsible adult.” If your brother is an artist, a real artist, he is not responsible to or for whatever version of him you would like him to be. If he is an artist, his chief responsibility (after his responsibilities to others engendered simply by virtue of his humanity) is to his art which will require of him a network of additional responsibilities relating to his relationship to the world. Insofar as he is meeting these various responsibilities, I don’t think you have cause to quibble with your brother over how he lives. Financial independence is not the governing value here. You cannot ask a painter to live the life of a stockbroker. You cannot ask a pharmacist to order his life as if he were a writer. The same rules simply don’t apply. As William Blake wrote, “One law for the lion and the ox is oppression.”

However, if your brother is not an artist, if he’s a dilettante, an amateur with no further ambitions, if his art is a hobby, not an obsession, a need, a ruling passion, a harsh taskmaster–then he’s a fraud, quite simply, and your parents need as much of a talking-to as he does.

My two cents.

Under the Mercy,
Mark

All is grace and mercy! Deo gratias.
 
Deo Volente, first of all I would like to thank you for your eloquent post. Regarding the arts, I agree with you. True artists should be allowed to pursue their desire to create without distraction and to their heart’s content. I, too, am a great lover of the arts, and I have a great amount of respect for those who dedicate their lives to whichever artful medium they choose. I fear that Eli is too concerned with the lifestyle of the hipster (and I will admit that I dabble in it as well). He spends a great deal of time involved with the scene, if you will. His art, in my opinion, is decent, but I don’t know if he is truly dedicated. I don’t want to call my brother a fraud; he is, at heart, a good man. He doesn’t seem to realize the error of his ways, which is likely linked with his privileged upbringing. My parents don’t seem to want to take the chance that he might get upset with them, and I realize that they too are at fault. I’m curious, are you an artist or a Williamsburg resident? After my initial post, I began to think that perhaps people on this forum are not familiar with the area or lifestyle.
 
Et Cetera…one of the rules of life is: Life is not fair.

You cannot control what your parents do. You can only focus on what you do. If you plan on being financially independent, Great. I think that’s the way it should be.

My In laws are somewhat wealthy. My Sil is a divorced stay at home mother. My in laws feel bad for the grandchildren, and pay for swim classes, little league, soccer, dance class, birthday parties with the class mates etc.

This summer we were going to send the older 2 to day camp…but we realize it is out of our reach. So my kids will be staying home. MY DH and I take care of our own kids.

Is it fair? I don’t know…Do I feel slighted…well yes and it isn’t a nice feeling. I feel guilty for feeling slighted. My baby was born in January. While they are paying for his cousins to have fun, the only gift that they have given my baby were 2 rattles. 2 rattles. We were told that they would be buying a mattress for the crib. We bought it. We were told we would be reimbursed. Still waiting.
 
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