Weird Mass today; Valid? Obligation Fulfilled?

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Ahhh… the “concelebrating” puppets - an oldy but a goody! Assuming that the priest has faculties and that the proper matter for the eucharist was used - i.e. bread and wine (these are big assumptions mind you) to say mass then it was probably valid (but still oh so very illicit). Basically, as long as the matter, form (being the words of consecration) and intention are all present together then it’s valid.
 
johnnyc176 said:
Of course we can judge actions. If a priest is going against the teachings of Jesus then it is our duty to inquire as to why. For the laity’s benefit but also the priest.
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Not judging the priest but as a Catholic I’d exercise my free choice not to go back.

This is very similar to my own situation a while back that I posted about. One week the “homily” was done by a Protestant minister; another week it was given by a member of a dissident Catholic group. After that I never went back.
 
signit said:
Not judging the priest but as a Catholic I’d exercise my free choice not to go back…
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InThePew said:
Assuming that the priest has faculties and that the proper matter for the eucharist was used - i.e. bread and wine (these are big assumptions mind you) to say mass then it was probably valid (but still oh so very illicit)…
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The celebrant was a Roman Catholic bishop.
 
Tomdstone said:
The celebrant was a Roman Catholic bishop.
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I heard that too. While that gets around the question of faculties (assuming he hadn’t been forbidden to say mass in public) the matter used for the Eucharist may not have been valid. Still, it goes to show that even a mass with concelebrating puppets can still be valid…
 
InThePew said:
I heard that too. While that gets around the question of faculties (assuming he hadn’t been forbidden to say mass in public) the matter used for the Eucharist may not have been valid. Still, it goes to show that even a mass with concelebrating puppets can still be valid…
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Lack of faculties definitely does not invalidate consecration of the Eucharist. Case in point: SSPX.
 
unless there is something that you aren’t reporting I doubt this is invalid, but very illicit. You received Jesus don’t worry, even if it was invalid I don’t think you need to worry about not making your obligation, you didn’t sin because of what a priest did.

One more thing talk to the priest before you go to the bishop. As a seminarian one of the things I would never want people doing is going behind my back to the bishop about something I did. If they have a problem with something I did come to me first, if I ignore it or brush it off, than go to the bishop.
 
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