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Friar_David_O.Carm
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Here is the Canon for you one more time.They did not address this question…they are talking about breaking the seal…etc
Can. 983 §1 The sacramental seal is inviolable. Accordingly, it is absolutely wrong for a confessor in any way to betray the penitent, for any reason whatsoever, whether by word or in any other fashion
As you can see, is says “for any reason whatsoever”. Permission of the penitent is not a valid reason, as there is no valid reason.
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Friar_David_O.Carm
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Here is the Canon for you one more time.They did not address this question…they are talking about breaking the seal…etc
Can. 983 §1 The sacramental seal is inviolable. Accordingly, it is absolutely wrong for a confessor in any way to betray the penitent, for any reason whatsoever, whether by word or in any other fashion
As you can see, is says “for any reason whatsoever”. Permission of the penitent is not a valid reason, as there is no valid reason.
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adrift
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When I was in high school religion class the priest said that the penitent could release him from the sacramental seal. I would think that your emphasis is on the wrong words. The ones that apply are “in any way to Betray the penitent” . You could hardly be betraying if the penitent gives his permision.Here is the Canon for you one more time.
Can. 983 §1 The sacramental seal is inviolable. Accordingly, it is absolutely wrong for a confessor in any way to betray the penitent, for any reason whatsoever, whether by word or in any other fashion
As you can see, is says “for any reason whatsoever”. Permission of the penitent is not a valid reason, as there is no valid reason.
I don’t believe the canon’s address this issue.
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Bookcat
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Exactly.Here is the Canon for you one more time.
Can. 983 §1 The sacramental seal is inviolable. Accordingly, it is absolutely wrong for a confessor in any way to betray the penitent, for any reason whatsoever, whether by word or in any other fashion
As you can see, is says “for any reason whatsoever”. Permission of the penitent is not a valid reason, as there is no valid reason.
And this would be talking about violations of the seal.
Permission is not violation…no “betrayal” …
Read Fr. Hardon’s answer above.
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Bookcat
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and this has loooong been the case…see the posts above for even older sources…this is not new.
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adrift
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I did find this article
The Seal of the Confessional
FR. WILLIAM SAUNDERS
The Seal of the Confessional
FR. WILLIAM SAUNDERS
However, a priest may ask the penitent for a release from the sacramental seal to discuss the confession with the person himself or others. For instance, if the penitent wants to discuss the subject matter of a previous confession — a particular sin, fault, temptation, circumstance — in a counseling session or in a conversation with the same priest, that priest will need the permission of the penitent to do so. For instance, especially with the advent of “face-to-face confession,” I have had individuals come up to me and say, “Father, remember that problem I spoke to you about in confession?” I have to say, “Please refresh my memory,” or “Do you give me permission to discuss this with you now?”
Or if a priest needs guidance from a more experienced confessor to deal with a difficult case of conscience, he first must ask the permission of the penitent to discuss the matter. Even in this case, the priest must keep the identity of the person secret.
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