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Hi all, I’m new to CAF!
I have a question about a lot of what I’ve been reading here. It seems like people here really don’t like the more modern celebrations of mass, mass wit upbeat music with guitars, keyboards, etc. I don’t like all the new music and I don’t think mass should be like I rock concert, but I love attending more modern masses that are still very reverent. I’m sure that everyone here agrees that Christ has given us so much to be joyful about. And for me, the slow, dull music does not sound very joyful. I don’t go to mass to be entertained, I go to learn about Christ and to rejoice in His ways. So why is it so wrong that at the mass there is music that is, IMHO, joyful, reverent, and celebratory of Christ?
 
I’m sure there are people that love the cow bell also. Maybe a few accordians? Perhaps a washboard and rainsticks?

Gregorian Chant is the Supreme Model of the Churches Sacred Music that is why it is used and preferred.
 
Well this is the traditional Catholicism forum, so yes don’t be surprised seeing people complain about stuff like that.
 
Thanks for the reply, but you really didn’t answer my question.
 
Irish_Eyes_826 said:
Hi all, I’m new to CAF!
I have a question about a lot of what I’ve been reading here. It seems like people here really don’t like the more modern celebrations of mass, mass wit upbeat music with guitars, keyboards, etc. I don’t like all the new music and I don’t think mass should be like I rock concert, but I love attending more modern masses that are still very reverent. I’m sure that everyone here agrees that Christ has given us so much to be joyful about. And for me, the slow, dull music does not sound very joyful. I don’t go to mass to be entertained, I go to learn about Christ and to rejoice in His ways. So why is it so wrong that at the mass there is music that is, IMHO, joyful, reverent, and celebratory of Christ?
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I like guitars too.

But since Mass is the sacrifice of Christ on Calvary, and at Mass we, in a way, transcend time and are placed at the foot of His cross, I have to ask myself: if I am standing under the cross of Christ and He is there, nailed to the cross, dying. His blood being spilled upon the ground beneath my feet as He offers Himself up for the sins of the world, is this the right time to get out the guitars and drum kit?
 
hudson said:
I’m sure there are people that love the cow bell also. Maybe a few accordians? Perhaps a washboard and rainsticks?

Gregorian Chant is the Supreme Model of the Churches Sacred Music that is why it is used and preferred.
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Cow bells 🙂
 
Well for me I love classic rock music mostly '70s. Thiers a place and time for it. When I’m at church I love traditional Catholic music. And I agree with hudson about Gregorian Chants. I’m Bilingual, and stopped going to spanish mass because they use a variety of insturments that just don’t sound right for me. I feel closer to God when we use tradional music. It moves my spirit like no other music can, and I don’t want to loose that feeling. Anyhow thats my 2 cents.

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jesus g
 
I’ll go out on a limb and say that cow bells don’t belong at mass, or really anywhere but farms:rolleyes:
And yes I agree that there is need for some solemnity at mass, but we celebrate Christ’s death AND resurrection at mass. His death is something we must mourn, but His life is something we should rejoice in. And why is it best we celebrate all He has given us in a language that He never even spoke?
 
Irish_Eyes_826 said:
Hi all, I’m new to CAF!
I have a question about a lot of what I’ve been reading here. It seems like people here really don’t like the more modern celebrations of mass, mass wit upbeat music with guitars, keyboards, etc. I don’t like all the new music and I don’t think mass should be like I rock concert, but I love attending more modern masses that are still very reverent. I’m sure that everyone here agrees that Christ has given us so much to be joyful about. And for me, the slow, dull music does not sound very joyful. I don’t go to mass to be entertained, I go to learn about Christ and to rejoice in His ways. So why is it so wrong that at the mass there is music that is, IMHO, joyful, reverent, and celebratory of Christ?
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To you it may be joyful, to others it may sound distracting and dull, just like you feel about the so called dull and slow music, by the way would that happen to be Gregorian chant?
 
We must decrease, and He must increase. Polyphonic chant accomplishes this.
 
I respect that not everybody likes modern masses and I do think, that although it is not something that I would find fulfilling on a weekly basis, the Latin/Traditional is a wonderful way to celebrate our faith. As for me, I find that I feel closest to God and gain more insight into living like Christ at a more modern mass and I don’t see why its wrong for those of us who feel this way to do so.
 
Irish_Eyes_826 said:
I’ll go out on a limb and say that cow bells don’t belong at mass, or really anywhere but farms:rolleyes:
And yes I agree that there is need for some solemnity at mass, but we celebrate Christ’s death AND resurrection at mass. His death is something we must mourn, but His life is something we should rejoice in.
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I’m not sure you understand fully. Mass is not a “celebration” of Christ’s death. It is being there at His sacrifice. Not a remembrance. Being there.
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And why is it best we celebrate all He has given us in a language that He never even spoke?
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Mass is more of a prayer than a “celebration” in the common meaning of the word “celebration”. It just happens to be the case that very many of the prayers used in Mass are very ancient and were composed in Latin. Any translation of those prayers into other languages will introduce slight changes in meaning at the very best. If we wish to pray these same prayers that our ancestors prayed, it is good to pray them in the same way and in the same language, provided there isn’t a good reason to do otherwise.

In the case of parts of the Mass that are directed at the faithful in attendance or which require response from the faithful, it makes sense (but is not absolutely necessary) to speak the vernacular language. Other parts of the Mass are prayers directed solely to God and do not require aural comprehension by the faithful. It is reasonable (but is not absolutely necessary) to say these prayers in the language of their composition, and the language in which they were said by our ancestors: Latin.

You may also not be aware that, for most people who advocate for the use of Latin, the use of Latin is less of a goal in and of itself, and more a vehicle to restore some of the traditional prayers of the Church because of the content of the traditional prayers. Many very ancient prayers were altered or abandoned for no good reason in the 1970s.
 
Irish_Eyes_826 said:
I’ll go out on a limb and say that cow bells don’t belong at mass, or really anywhere but farms:rolleyes:
And yes I agree that there is need for some solemnity at mass, but we celebrate Christ’s death AND resurrection at mass. His death is something we must mourn, but His life is something we should rejoice in. And why is it best we celebrate all He has given us in a language that He never even spoke?
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Who are you to deny those farmers more cowbell at mass?
 
Irish_Eyes_826 said:
I respect that not everybody likes modern masses and I do think, that although it is not something that I would find fulfilling on a weekly basis, the Latin/Traditional is a wonderful way to celebrate our faith. As for me, I find that I feel closest to God and gain more insight into living like Christ at a more modern mass and I don’t see why its wrong for those of us who feel this way to do so.
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I don’t get why all the different liturgical innovations and worship styles have to be accommodated in Mass. Mass is the Holy Sacrifice. Let it be solemn. Crank up the band, lift up your arms, and sing along outside of Mass? What’s wrong with that?
 
Will S- I’m sorry I phrased that so poorly. I do realize that it is the holy sacrifice of the mass. However, I simply believe that it is acceptable to use music other than Gregorian chant to remember and appreciate all Jesus has done for us, regardless of language. I actually know my prayers in Latin so that’s not the issue. I just wonder why people tell me I’m wrong for attending a mass with a modern feel.

Hudson- Fair enough, cowbells at mass it is 😉
 
Irish_Eyes_826 said:
Will S- I’m sorry I phrased that so poorly. I do realize that it is the holy sacrifice of the mass. However, I simply believe that it is acceptable to use music other than Gregorian chant to remember and appreciate all Jesus has done for us, regardless of language. I actually know my prayers in Latin so that’s not the issue. I just wonder why people tell me I’m wrong for attending a mass with a modern feel.
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It basically boils down to it being a slippery slope. If you allow what you want then the next person that wants something can say “look you let guitars in” I want what makes me feel good to be included also. Mass isn’t about what makes everyone feel good.
 
Well I think we should remember that Gregorian chant was not around until 500 years after Christ, yet by the grace of God, the Church still lasted. There are infinite ways to honor God, and while the mass should solemn, we should also rejoice in what He has given us in whatever way we can.
 
Sometimes the liturgical theme of a Mass is joyful, sometimes somber. There must be room for both guitars and chants. Reverence is the constant. We can reverently “…make a joyful noise unto the Lord.” and reverently contemplate the mysteries of Christ’s passion and death.

It’s all about the liturgy of that Mass.

Glennonite
 
No, no rock. No cowbells. And no bagpipes, please. Washboards are right out!
 
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