Well, I want to Change to The FSSP Parish, But

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Why can’t she serve in some additional way at the FSSP? You present a false dichotomy.
Laszlo seems to often indirectly accuse people of pride or vanity when they say they want to have the Traditional Mass and sacraments. Personally I have never met a person for whom that is the case.

Speaking for myself, I must have the Traditional Mass and sacraments for one and only one reason: To save my soul.
 
If I was in your priest shoes, I would like a direct approch, in a kind and loving manner.

I will pray to the Holy Spirit to guide you and your husband.

jesus g
 
I appreciate everyone offering to pray for me and my husband through this transition. I am getting very nervous about meeting with Father. I am trying to figure out what to say to him.
 
Speaking for myself, I must have the Traditional Mass and sacraments for one and only one reason: To save my soul.
Are you implying that the Ordinary Form of the Sacraments and Divine Liturgy do not confer sanctifying grace?
 
Why can’t she serve in some additional way at the FSSP? You present a false dichotomy.
She has skill to serve as catechist, nursery help and Extraordinaru Eucharistic minister. Thls later is nonexistent at the FSSP, I sincerly hope that the FSSP requires different qualification for a catechist that a New form parish, and I am afraid that the FSSP usually has no resources (room staff, insurance) for keeping nursery.

May be you can give some positive ideas how she can use her skills, instead of just criticizing me. I worked with the church in the good old times, and I hope the FSSP keeps that ideas. Outside of the choir, and to raise future priests, there is very little effective skilled activity for women. She can clean the church, make vestments, pray the rosary. This later worth the same serving any of the forms.
 
She has skill to serve as catechist, nursery help and Extraordinaru Eucharistic minister. Thls later is nonexistent at the FSSP, I sincerly hope that the FSSP requires different qualification for a catechist that a New form parish, and I am afraid that the FSSP usually has no resources (room staff, insurance) for keeping nursery.

May be you can give some positive ideas how she can use her skills, instead of just criticizing me. I worked with the church in the good old times, and I hope the FSSP keeps that ideas. Outside of the choir, and to raise future priests, there is very little effective skilled activity for women. She can clean the church, make vestments, pray the rosary. This later worth the same serving any of the forms.
If that is all that I can do to help while I am there, I will happily do it. All I want to do is serve God, no matter the job or chore I am given.
 
Are you implying that the Ordinary Form of the Sacraments and Divine Liturgy do not confer sanctifying grace?
No. I am implying that I am unlikely to remain in the state of grace if I don’t have access to a traditional parish.
 
Are you implying that the Ordinary Form of the Sacraments and Divine Liturgy do not confer sanctifying grace?
As far as I know, only Penance and Baptism confer (as opposed to, increase) sanctifying grace. What is the difference between the “Ordinary” or “Superordinary” Form of either?
 
Ok guys, another dilema (I seem to have a lot of those). I am currently attending a parish that in a sense doesn’t want anything traditional at all. I love all the people there but however I have experienced the FSSP parish for myself and now my soul craves to be there. My husband is torn too. If I were to leave the parish I am at now, they would lose not only a parishioner, but a catechist, a nursery helper, and even a EMHC. My husband and I are very involved at our parish and we don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, especially Father’s. I am trying to figure out the best way to go about it and I feel stuck. I just don’t want to abandon everyone. Any ideas?
I would suggest choosing what is best for your spiritual life. If your soul craves to be at the FSSP parish - that could mean something. You could get involved there too 🙂 you don’t need to argue your choice. Just simply say, you feel drawn to that spirituality. If you find it easier to pray at the Latin Mass and if that’s what you prefer, that doesn’t mean you’re against your current parish, or critical of it, or that you’re rejecting the NO or your priest. Is there a way to maybe discuss this with the FSSP priest?

I’d love to go to an FSSP parish if I lived near one 🙂 it’s a great place to grow spiritually.

God bless
 
As far as I know, only Penance and Baptism confer (as opposed to, increase) sanctifying grace. What is the difference between the “Ordinary” or “Superordinary” Form of either?
The forms are Ordinary and Extraordinary, not Superordinary.
 
If you feel that your very soul is calling you to attent the Tridentine Mass, then it could very well be God’s will that you attend Holy Mass at the FSSP Parish. If you were torn between following God’s will for you and staying with the other parish, which would you choose? At the very least go to Mass at the FSSP parish a few times and see how you feel about it. Good luck!
The spiritual life does not work quite that way. God does not call us from what is good to something else for no apparent reason. God certainly does not have a preference for one form of the mass over another. That would be like saying that God prefers the Roman Church over the Chaldean Church.

However, when one is torn between two goods, it is very important to consider several factors.
  1. Is this a spiritual urge or an affective urge? Remember that affective urges are not bad. But it helps to know what one is dealing with. One can be pulled one way or another purely by feelings. Feelings are neither good nor bad, because they don’t have the power of execution. It’s what we do with them. We have the poewr of execution.
  2. If we truly believe that the urge to move from one good to another good is from the Spirit, we can test that theory. The Masters have always said that we must ask ourselves, “Will this choice increase the practice of charity in my life?” Everything must lead to charity. When choosing between two good, the one must lead to an increase in charity. Take the example of Mother Teresa. There was nothing bad about the Sisters of Loretto. She was doing God’s work and living the consecrated life. What made the difference? The difference was charity. As a Missionary of Charity her life of charity would intensify and expand. Had it not been for charity, the change would not have been from the Spirit.
  3. Finally, we must also weigh the effects on others. Our choices can never be at another person’s expense. Therefore, we must make sure that we make choices that are for the greater good. In this case, the greater good is not the form of the mass, since they are equally good and equally sacred. The greater good has to be something else. Only you can discern what is this greater good. Whatever you do, avoid thinking of the two forms of the mass as one greater than the other. That thught does not come from the Spirit anymore than the Spirit would say that the Byzantine Rite is a greater good than the Latin Rite. God is not in competition with himself. Whatever the greater good is, may not come to you immediately. However, you can know if you’re choice is going to do harm to another person. If it is clear that harm will be done, then it’s not the greater good.
I almost feel like I am betraying Father and stabbing him in the back after everything he has done for our family. I almost am afraid to tell him that I have even been going to the FSSP parish when I can.
If you’re searching to develop your relationship with Christ and your charity toward neighbor, you’re not hurting Father. He may miss you if you leave. He IS human.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I almost feel like I am betraying Father and stabbing him in the back after everything he has done for our family. I almost am afraid to tell him that I have even been going to the FSSP parish when I can.
LOL, I know how you feel. My last RC parish, the priest knows me. Although we don’t have a deep and long time relationship with him, he calls me all the time when he has computer problems. The thing is, I’ve moved to a Ukrainian parish months ago. I don’t know if he has noticed but he acts like I am still a parishioner. And truthfully I don’t have the guts to tell him.
 
I almost feel like I am betraying Father and stabbing him in the back after everything he has done for our family. I almost am afraid to tell him that I have even been going to the FSSP parish when I can.
I understand that this is a difficult situation for you. Though Father has done a lot for your family, you, in turn, have also done a lot for your parish, too. You are obviously a very giving and caring person, and I would guess that Father will understand that it’s a difficult decision for you when you explain it to him.

Maybe you’ve already met with Father, but if not, you may want to consider telling him that you would like to try the FSSP parish for, say, six months or so (or any time frame which sounds suitable). That way, if for some reason the FSSP parish doesn’t work out, you can go back to your current parish, and there won’t be an air of such finality about the move to an FSSP parish.

I would also reccommend praying a lot about how to deal with the situation - which you are probably already doing, of course. God bless! 🙂
 
Well, I did it I spent my first Sunday in my new parish. 😃 I am so excited and honestly surprised when I had my appointment with the priest at my old parish of his response. He told me that if the Holy Spirit is pulling me so strongly to the FSSP parish I needed to follow that urge, no questions asked. He did tell me that the doors of my old parish are always open and a hug will always await me and my husband.
 
She has skill to serve as catechist, nursery help and Extraordinaru Eucharistic minister. Thls later is nonexistent at the FSSP, .
Considering that the only “Extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers” in either form would be laicized priests, why would you ask that of anyone?
 
Outside of the choir, and to raise future priests, there is very little effective skilled activity for women. She can clean the church, make vestments, pray the rosary. This later worth the same serving any of the forms.
You could have worded this differently. This makes it sound as if women have no role in the Church once they join an FSSP parish. That’s not true. They’re not involved in the sancturary during the liturgy. There is no ban on using women to take communion to the sick, to run ministries for youth, couples and families, to do spiritual direction, retreat work, sacramental preparation, pastoral counseling, administration or any of the other functions that women now occupy in the Church. The Church’s Decree on the Apostolate of the Laity still applies in FSSP run parishes. None of these other ministries require ordination or that one be male. They can even teach at the FSSP seminary if they have the proper academic credentials.

The rubrics of the EF are on thing, the life of the faithful and the apostolate of the laity is another. SP and UE only addressed the EF, not the rest of Catholic life.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I want to check out an FSSP parish and I found an FSSP “chapel” which is quite a distance from me, but my friend offered to drive me.

Does anyone know if “chapel” means it is in a room somewhere or can it refer to an actual church building?

Also, does “chapel” imply its a small congregation?

Thanks.
 
I want to check out an FSSP parish and I found an FSSP “chapel” which is quite a distance from me, but my friend offered to drive me.

Does anyone know if “chapel” means it is in a room somewhere or can it refer to an actual church building?

Also, does “chapel” imply its a small congregation?

Thanks.
Never mind. Found my answer.
 
I want to check out an FSSP parish and I found an FSSP “chapel” which is quite a distance from me, but my friend offered to drive me.

Does anyone know if “chapel” means it is in a room somewhere or can it refer to an actual church building?

Also, does “chapel” imply its a small congregation?

Thanks.
Chapels can be large or small and can be freestanding or part of a building (like a day chapel in a church) and may be associated witha seminary, hospital, shrine, school,monastary etc. They are not the same as a parish church. The FSSP parishes serve the Diocese they are in, I believe, and are under the Bishop of that Diocese. They are listed as a Diocesean parish in my Diocese and their building is a church, not a chapel.
 
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