Well, so much for trying to join RCIA classes

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Missouri is more anti Catholic. ECLA is not. Missouri is actually anti anything that is not Missouri

I grew up in the LCMS (Missouri Synod). I do not recall any anti-catholicism. The LCMS church is more like the Catholic Church than ELCA.​

Also, if your partents are opening YOUR mail, that’s against the law. Like someone else said get a PO Box. And I’m sure there is pretty good public transportation in Baltimore.

I don’t think I can add anything else to what’s already been said but definately agree that you need to move out if you can.
 
Just to add a few points, during the argument (and I’m terrible at arguing), my dad, raised Catholic and converted to Lutheranism when he married my mom, say – screamed rather, “I WILL NEVER, EVER STEP FOOT INSIDE OF A CATHOLIC CHURCH!!!”.

My mom (besides lecturing me a 2nd day) also likened the Catholic Church to the Jehovah Witnesses in that they “try to convert everyone in the world”.
 
Just to add a few points, during the argument (and I’m terrible at arguing), my dad, raised Catholic and converted to Lutheranism when he married my mom, say – screamed rather, “I WILL NEVER, EVER STEP FOOT INSIDE OF A CATHOLIC CHURCH!!!”.
Tell him you’re not asking him to. Tell him this is something you want to do. What he does is his own business.
My mom (besides lecturing me a 2nd day) also likened the Catholic Church to the Jehovah Witnesses in that they “try to convert everyone in the world”.
First I’ve ever heard of it.

As far as I can tell, what we do is, we hope people might read something and become interested in stopping by for Mass.

Then, when they do come, we ignore them completely, until they try to join RCIA, and then we throw all kinds of obstacles in their way - they have to get their marriages sorted out (if they’ve ever been divorced and remarried), and once that’s been done, they have to take six months to a year of Catechism classes, they have to find a sponsor, we make them pay for their books, and we require them to do all kinds of extra homework, and if they miss any of the Rites, (because they got sick, or something came up at home with their kids, or they just forgot to show up that day) then they get bumped back to the start of the process and have to do it all over again next year.

No, I don’t think anyone could ever become Catholic by accident. Becoming Catholic on purpose is difficult enough.

(I once became Evangelical by accident, though - I was visiting at one of their churches, and being totally naive, I signed something without looking at it very carefully, and the next thing I knew, they thought I was a member of their church. It took a while to get that one straightened out.)
 
Tell him you’re not asking him to. Tell him this is something you want to do. What he does is his own business.

First I’ve ever heard of it.

As far as I can tell, what we do is, we hope people might read something and become interested in stopping by for Mass.

Then, when they do come, we ignore them completely, until they try to join RCIA, and then we throw all kinds of obstacles in their way - they have to get their marriages sorted out (if they’ve ever been divorced and remarried), and once that’s been done, they have to take six months to a year of Catechism classes, they have to find a sponsor, we make them pay for their books, and we require them to do all kinds of extra homework, and if they miss any of the Rites, (because they got sick, or something came up at home with their kids, or they just forgot to show up that day) then they get bumped back to the start of the process and have to do it all over again next year.

No, I don’t think anyone could ever become Catholic by accident. Becoming Catholic on purpose is difficult enough.

(I once became Evangelical by accident, though - I was visiting at one of their churches, and being totally naive, I signed something without looking at it very carefully, and the next thing I knew, they thought I was a member of their church. It took a while to get that one straightened out.)
This is so funny. This is totally the way it is. I was talking about this with the husband of one of my friends and he said Catholics never try to get anyone to join their church because it is already hard enough to get a parking space before mass. Who needs new members. 🙂
 
Gotta say I don’t agree with these comments about it being difficult to become a Catholic. I went through the RCIA process with my husband when he converted and it was the smoothest process we’ve been through. He had to miss a few things due to traveling with his job and everyone understood - there was no talk of starting all over from square one.

There may have been a nominal registration fee and we do have a book we kept but “making you pay for all the books” you make it sound like a college registration or something.

As for marriages and annulments, if you are far enough along to want to convert then hopfully you will understand the WHY’s of this process, or you will soon enough…

As for find a sponsor, you make if sound like that’s near impossible.

Extra homework? Homework? Never heard of it.

JenniferG - you’ve tried for 10 years? But isn’t this whole thread about how your parents are your biggest road blocks? Don’t make it sound like it’s the Church that’s been stopping you.

There are reasons why the RCIA process is what it is, remember, the Church is the pillar and bulwark of our faith…

If you guys meant this facetiously, my apologies for being such a party pooper. But I am looking at if from the stand point of someone reading this who is thinking of converting and you just ran them off, OR a critic who just got an armload of ammunition.

Please don’t be personally offended by this post, remember, this is a public forum. Jack Chick could be reading this!!:eek:
 
Of course the comments were part in jest but you cannot deny it is much harder to become a Catholic than practically anything else. As it should be? Maybe. I for one was a little bothered when I saw people show up for Easter Vigil who I hadn’t seen in weeks. Even so, I’m quite proud of our program and what I learned and had to sacrifice to go through. For one, we paid a babysitter $20 every Tuesday night from September through April!

Now, some programs are notoriously week and it’s a breeze to sail through. I know one co-worker who converted and “RCIA” was an excuse for the 4-5 people going through to get together and drink beer and watch Monday Night Football!!!
 
Little Mary;

Sorry, that was meant to be funny. I’m speaking from the standpoint of both a convert and an RCIA Inquiry facilitator.

Apparently I’m “tough” (according to my students) because I assign an hour a week of homework, and I insist on a minimum of 85% attendance.

Our team leader won’t let them continue if they don’t show up for the Rites, and I think our Catechist is at least as “tough” on attendance as I am. ('I’ve heard him say that if they miss three in a row, they have to come back down to my class, although I haven’t seen that happen, yet.)

Finding sponsors is hard for them - I don’t know why - well, in part, I do know why - they come into the Church and join RCIA right away without first getting to know anyone in the parish, so they don’t know anyone.

So, part of their Inquiry homework is to attend social events at the parish and get to know people, so that they can ask someone to be their sponsor. They have to have a sponsor (among other tasks also to be completed during this period) before they are allowed to “graduate” from Inquiry and go to RCIA Catechesis.

These seem like minimum standards to us, and it’s funny when we’re told how “tough” we are. But I guess compared to other denominations, where all you do is sign a card and that’s it, you’re a member (as I related above, when I accidentally became an Evangelical one time) we really are pretty tough.

But as you point out, to someone who is committed to the process and keen on becoming Catholic, these steps are as natural as breathing - of course you get to know people; you’re planning to be here for the rest of your life. And of course you read up on the teachings of the Church for at least one hour a week - every waking moment you are thinking about it, and every time you have a chance to sit down, you are devouring everything you can find on the subject.

Not everyone who comes to RCIA is such a keener, though.

I had one poor fellow show up to Inquirer several weeks ago, and he said, “So, how long is RCIA? Four weeks? Six weeks?” I said, “Typically, it takes about two years. Some people can get it done in as little as six months, but that’s extremely rare. A lot of people take longer than that, depending on their situation at home - there are a great many factors involved in the process, and sometimes it can take years to get everything sorted out.”

He gave me one of these looks, :eek:, excused himself to use the washroom, and I haven’t seen him since.

He may be back, since the process doesn’t get any shorter by not starting it, but he certainly has a lot to think about, right now - just how badly does he want to become Catholic, and is this really the right thing for him, and that sort of thing.
 
So is my German side, too (from Bavaria).

Granted, my mom can be oddly contradictory sometimes… One minute, she’s saying how there’s nothing wrong with the Catholic church and that Catholic/Lutheran churches are similar, then berates me for wanting to be Catholic. There’s other examples of such contradictory things, too. (not always church related).

ELCA. Which one is more anti-Catholic anyway? (I’ll guess Missouri as it’s closer south)

Anyway, they’re still talking to me about it today, too. (They don’t let things drop easily, and my mom still insists that our former neighbor - who’s also teaching the RCIA classes of all things - is “in on it”.)
Missouri Synod is more anti-catholic.

Kendy
 
Just to show how much my mom likes coincidences…

We’ve been going to our Lutheran church for the past two weeks. The first week, the pastor’s niece was supposed to be baptised (their family had the flu, so they didn’t that week) and they had cake in the back. Also last week, I got a new office at work, and they upgraded my job title (an extra $3,000 a year). Now she’s saying, “See? God’s rewarding you for coming back to the Lutheran church”.

She doesn’t give up easily.
 
First inform your family that reading your mail is a FEDERAL OFFENSE that if convicted will earn them a jail term and a huge fine. Also tell them if they don’t stop you will report them.

Finally, girlfriend, GO. You aren’t doing them any good. If you leave they might just possibly get something remotely resembling a life.

Besides don’t you deserve one too.

Jesus never said, “My parents won’t let me.”
 
This is so funny. This is totally the way it is. I was talking about this with the husband of one of my friends and he said Catholics never try to get anyone to join their church because it is already hard enough to get a parking space before mass. Who needs new members. 🙂
I have been beating my head against a wall for 5 years to get our RCIA program moving, and have just concluded parking is the underlying problem (we have none, we are downtown and the only parking is on the street). so I will stop blaming myself.
 
Just to show how much my mom likes coincidences…

We’ve been going to our Lutheran church for the past two weeks. The first week, the pastor’s niece was supposed to be baptised (their family had the flu, so they didn’t that week) and they had cake in the back. Also last week, I got a new office at work, and they upgraded my job title (an extra $3,000 a year). Now she’s saying, “See? God’s rewarding you for coming back to the Lutheran church”.

She doesn’t give up easily.
Hmm… Maybe God is rewarding you for going to the Lutheran
Church… Or maybe He is giving you the extra money you need
to finally move out on your own. Keep your eyes open. If you
want to be on your own and make your own decisions about
your own life, pay attention to opportunities God may be
sending your way. Certainly it is His will for you to become
Catholic, and I know He will show you what you can do.
Your parents show great love for you, and you also show
great love for them. Continue in kindness, in all your ways
acknowledge Him, and God will surely show you your next
step.
:blessyou:
show you your
 
Do you have friends at work who can help you find a way to leave, or at least give you rides? Or who can refer you to an attorney? You are a legal adult, you should be able to go where you need to go, regardless of any disability. Are there any law enforcement people you can contact? Social services?
 
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