Were you taught negative information about another faith in church?

  • Thread starter Thread starter kell0618
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
faelpsanfeel said:
I have a serious, serious suspicion that everyone who said “no” was basically lying.

In fact, I’m almost totally sure of it.
Click to expand...
I’m glad you said almost because friend, you are wrong. Pretty nice of you to point out the majority of posters are liars:(. That kind of post leaves a smelly cloud that can clear a room:eek:. Can we play nice? Please? 👍
 
kell0618 said:
I’m glad you said almost because friend, you are wrong. Pretty nice of you to point out the majority of posters are liars:(. That kind of post leaves a smelly cloud that can clear a room:eek:. Can we play nice? Please? 👍
Click to expand...
Yeah, it’s a bit vicious!

Anyways, cradle catholic in her mid-30s here, with 13 years of Catholic school under my belt.

There was one solitary one-hour religious ed lesson during that entire time when we were taught defensive manouevres for JWs and Mormons (interesting to see it goes both ways). That is the only thing I can recall that would even come close.

We had a lot of children of non-Catholic and Muslim backgrounds studying at our school, who were perfectly lovely and treated with nothing but respect that I ever saw.

We even spent a semester studying non-Christian religions, again in a way that was entirely respectful of them. Our teacher was an adult convert to Catholicism from Judaism.
 
I’m standing by my assertion on the basis that I think you all have a very self-serving definition of the word “negative.”

If you can, in good faith, dispute this, then I’m perfectly willing to eat my words, but I’m pretty sure that if other religions get mentioned in church (and they do-- I’ve been in plenty of churches) then it certainly isn’t to enumerate their positive qualities.
 
faelpsanfeel said:
If you can, in good faith, dispute this, then I’m perfectly willing to eat my words, but I’m pretty sure that if other religions get mentioned in church (and they do-- I’ve been in plenty of churches) then it certainly isn’t to enumerate their positive qualities.
Click to expand...
Going to be in Upstate/Western NY anytime soon? There is always room beside my family in the pew.🙂 You can listen for yourself.
 
I am Catholic now, but I was raised Lutheran, and we did spend quite a bit of time on why the Catholic church was wrong in Luther’s time (although, in defense of Lutherans, unlike other protestants that I have spoken to or heard from, we were taught that up until Luther’s “enlightenment” that the Church was the Church instituted by Christ).

I guess one of the things about being a protestant is that at some point you have to learn why you are “protesting.” We also learned about why we didn’t consider Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons to be Christians, and what the Muslim faith believed. We were also taught what we were suppose to do if we had a door to door visitor from the former so as to properly witness our faith.

As far as other protestants and Catholics went, we were taught that they were indeed Christians, and that if they did trust and have faith in Christ they would be saved, but Catholics had to be careful not to put too much faith in works or in pointless prayers to saints.

And for anyone keeping score at home, this would be a Missouri Synod Lutheran Church that I was confirmed in.
 
Okay, so I just want to make sure I understand this:

76% of the people who answered this poll say that they were never taught negative information about other religions in church, and that doesn’t seem fishy at all to anyone?
 
faelpsanfeel said:
I’m standing by my assertion on the basis that I think you all have a very self-serving definition of the word “negative.”

If you can, in good faith, dispute this, then I’m perfectly willing to eat my words, but I’m pretty sure that if other religions get mentioned in church (and they do-- I’ve been in plenty of churches) then it certainly isn’t to enumerate their positive qualities.
Click to expand...
No, priests couldn’t ever possibly mention from the pulpit the fact that Muslims also profess great respect for Mary the Mother of Jesus. Or the many aspects of our faith which are rooted in Judaism (after all, we do owe most of our Bible to the Jews). Or that Gandhi achieved incredible things in India whilst pursuing a strict policy of non-violence. :rolleyes:
 
Okay, well I obviously need to pick my battles better.

I’m sorry I called everyone a liar; I didn’t really mean for that statement to be as offensive as it evidentally was seeing as how this argument has expanded into other threads and caused a minor uproar among some of you regulars.

Just for the record, though, I
wasn’t
born
yesterday.

I’ll just leave it at that.
 
Honestly, I don’t think it sounds that strange. Growing up Lutheran, the impetus was obviously on the teachers in my church to explain why we weren’t Catholic since we obviously split off from them. If you grew up Catholic, I can easily see that you would be taught what your Church believes and why. By extension you could see what your Church disagreed with in other faiths without specifically having those things called out.
 
I have never had a priest speak negatively about any other faith. Actually, one of the priests I used to know seemed to show respect and a slight affinity towards the Jewish faith. He never preached about it, but you could tell by slight remarks here and there that he had a special respect for the Jewish people.
 
Okay, so I just want to make sure I understand this:
Click to expand...
76% of the people who answered this poll say that they were never taught negative information about other religions in church, and that doesn’t seem fishy at all to anyone?
Click to expand...
I would guess this is because the people who are taught blatantly horrible things about other churches are likely to stick to a board that only promotes those same lies about those other churches. If you asked this question on carm or a fundimentalist so-called “Bible-Believing” board you’d probably get very different answers.
 
Okay, I’m going to try something else:

Would you all say that this forum, in general, sometimes casts other religions in a negative light?
 
Okay, I’m going to try something else:
Click to expand...
Would you all say that this forum, in general, sometimes casts other religions in a negative light?
Click to expand...
I would say sometimes, particularly in regards to muslims. There are some posters who can be harsh to protestants in general or get very passionate about specific issue (like Sola Sciptura) and I know I’m sometimes uncharitable in Jehovah Witness threads. This all usually comes from reading up about these religions and finding them offensive (in the case of muslims usually) or having had bad run-in’s with members of these religions. It’s rarely a case of taking on the bias of a priest or pastor.
 
If Catholicism is the truth, then it’s only natural that other religions may not always be portrayed postively. However, I think how negative of an attitude is shown towards other religions differs from person to person and case to case. If “A” is the truth and I say so, but Bob believes “B” is the truth, then does that mean I am putting his beliefs in a negative light? I don’t know, you decide. Bob is wrong though, and I will not shy away from the truth so as not to offend him. At the same time, I would hope I would always act in the most charitable manner possible.
 
Thank you for not implying that I’m definitively an idiot who has no valid point here. That’s really all I was looking for.

Sorry again for the “liars” thing. Once again, that was a bit extreme in retrospect (though, in my defense, it was my intention to be more than just a little figurative there.)
 
Rawb said:
I would say sometimes, particularly in regards to muslims. There are some posters who can be harsh to protestants in general or get very passionate about specific issue (like Sola Sciptura) and I know I’m sometimes uncharitable in Jehovah Witness threads. This all usually comes from reading up about these religions and finding them offensive (in the case of muslims usually) or having had bad run-in’s with members of these religions. It’s rarely a case of taking on the bias of a priest or pastor.
Click to expand...
Also, good answer. You didn’t fall into my trap 🙂
 
Yes, I can in good faith dispute this by telling you that there is no room in the Mass for that.

BTW, I attend a Novus Ordo Mass.

Are you jewish perhaps?
faelpsanfeel said:
I’m standing by my assertion on the basis that I think you all have a very self-serving definition of the word “negative.”

If you can, in good faith, dispute this, then I’m perfectly willing to eat my words, but I’m pretty sure that if other religions get mentioned in church (and they do-- I’ve been in plenty of churches) then it certainly isn’t to enumerate their positive qualities.
Click to expand...
 
Hellisreal said:
Yes, I can in good faith dispute this by telling you that there is no room in the Mass for that.

BTW, I attend a Novus Ordo Mass.

Are you jewish perhaps?
Click to expand...
No, not Jewish. I was raised Southern Baptist, but then I got tired of all the fundamentalism as I’m sure you could have guessed.

It seems that I’m rather guilty of projecting my own background onto the people in this thread. I’m still not convinced that the poll is accurate, but it’s obvious that you aren’t “all liars.”
 
Raised Protestant, & don’t ever recall hearing anything negative about other faiths in Church.

However, my parents, grandparents, uncles & aunts used to always slam Catholic “fish-eaters, Mary worshipers, rosary bead blasphemers, bingo junkies, papal pagans, and all the Catholic drunks on Saturday night going to confession Sunday morning”. Not sure where they got their hatred & prejudice from.

And I wonder what they’d say, now that I’ve crossed the Tiber :bigyikes:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top