Were you taught negative information about another faith in church?

[butterflychaser]

…We of course were taught about the reformation,and without a doubt from the catholic view point, of course that would be expected.

It was not a reformation, it was a revolution against the true teachings of Christ, and against The Holy Mass and The Holy Eucharist.

 

[angelusm]

Negative or not, it doesn’t matter. I want to know the truth. Priests, and not only them, have to warn others - which means to say something negative about other religions if necessary.

 

[Sixtus]

angelusm wrote:

Negative or not, it doesn’t matter. I want to know the truth. Priests, and not only them, have to warn others - which means to say something negative about other religions if necessary.

I must disagree. I do not see anything positive coming from being negative.

The Catholic Church is about ‘Reconciliation’ and ‘Conciliation’.
That cannot be achieved by being negative.

We are commanded by Christ to ‘love one another’ Jn 15:17.

We simply do not know what [if anything] the Holy Spirit says to other religions. I think we should respect others and their beliefs even if we do not agree with them. Respect = Not being critical and/or judgmental

 

[Robert_in_SD]

Never did I hear a bad word about another faith tradition. It just did not happen.

Peace,
-Robert

 

[butterflychaser]

The Catholic Church is about ‘Reconciliation’ and ‘Conciliation’…

…We are commanded by Christ to ‘love one another’ Jn 15:17

…We simply do not know what [if anything] the Holy Spirit says to other religions. I think we should respect others and their beliefs even if we do not agree with them. Respect = Not being critical and/or judgmental

The Holy Roman Catholic Church is NOT about reconciliation or conciliation with human beings, it is about reconciliation and conciliation with God.

Jesus taught us that to love one another is to speak the truth to them. The Catholic Church is not a people-pleasing religion and Jesus taught us exactly what to feel and think about those who do not have Christ (this also goes for those who say they do but still call themselves “Christian.”)

Jesus was critical of those who did not know truth. It is not judgemental to speak the truth. You seem to follow some kind of apple-pie airy fairy religion, not Catholicism.

 

[butterflychaser]

We simply do not know what [if anything] the Holy Spirit says to other religions. I think we should respect others and their beliefs even if we do not agree with them. Respect = Not being critical and/or judgmental

What you consider loving one another is a people-pleasing wishy washy human, conditional love.

Jesus The Christ to the Jews:

“Neither me do you know, nor my Father. If you did know me, perhaps you would also know my Father.” John 8:15-19

“You are from beneath, I am from above. You are of this world, I am not of this world.” John 8:23

“You do the works of your father. If God were your father, you would indeed love me. Why do you not know my speech, because you cannot hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do.” John 8:41-44

“He that is of God, heareth the words of God. Therefore you hear them not, because you are not of God.” John 8:47

“you shall die in your sins. FOR IF YOU BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YOU SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS” John 8: 24

Now, are you going to call Jesus judgemental and “being negative?”

 

[butterflychaser]

Apocolypse 2:9 “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”

Matt: 5-6 “These twelve Jesus sent, commanding them saying: Go yet NOT into the places of the Gentiles, and into the city of the samaritans enter NOT. BUT GO YE RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.
14: “And whosoever shall NOT receive you, nor hear your words, going forth out of that house or city SHAKE OFF THE DUST FROM YOUR FEET.”
15: Amen, I say to you it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of Judgement FOR THAT CITY.”
23: “Amen I say to you, you SHALL NOT FINISH ALL THE CITIES OF ISRAEL,…TILL THE SON OF MAN COME”!

Oh, but according to some here in this forum, this would be “judgemental” and “negative”. This would show “no respect.”

 

[butterflychaser]

We are commanded by Christ to ‘love one another’ Jn 15:17.

I will quote Saint John, who is known as the Love Apostle, and whom I love very much because of His love for Jesus and the truth.

“Who is a liar but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is anti-Christ, who denieth The Father and The Son.” …“Whosoever denieth The Son, Hath not the Father in Him. He that confesseth the Son Hath the Father also.” 1 John 2:22-23

“every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come of the flesh, is of God. And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God” 1 John 4:2-3

“By this is the Spirit of God known: every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is of God. And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God.” 1 John 4:2-3

Love and truth do not bend down to others and their false beliefs.

 

[Sixtus]

butterflychaser said:
Apocolypse 2:9 “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”

Christ was empowered and had authority to say that. We do not.

Our commission is to love, forgive and pray for period

 

[Sixtus]

butterflychaser said:
Apocolypse 2:9 “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”

Christ was empowered and had authority to say that. We do not.

Our commission is to love, forgive and pray for!

 

[butterflychaser]

Christ was empowered and had authority to say that. We do not.Our commission is to love, forgive and pray for!

We are also to speak the truth to one another.

My posts were not to convey that we are to go around blasting others with open condemnation. This thread was addressing “respect” for other religions. The Talmud is Judaism’s holiest of books, even more than the Old Testament is. The Talmud teaches Jesus 'is a bastard and boiling in excrement ’ and that His Holy Mother is ‘a whore.’ Jews in Israel often spit on Crosses. The Talmud also says that Gentiles are 'subhuman. ’

These matters are well-known among Jews and only recently did Jewish leaders begin to admit to them. Most of the Talmud was edited to conceal the vile words about Jesus, His Mother, and Gentiles, but there are unedited versions and Rabbis admit this. They also use the original versions in their oral teachings.

How can a Catholic “respect” the Jewish religion when this is what it teaches? In addition, if a Catholic is in a conversation with someone about these matters and does not defend the Holy Gospels and Jesus, but instead fears “offending” others, then this is also like turning their back on God.

 

[butterflychaser]

In addition, how can a Catholic “respect” Protestant religions when they are based on a lie? The lie that Jesus died for all of their sins and they do not have to amend their lives because they are already “saved.” Protestantism also has little respect for The Holy Mother. Many Protestants say ugly things about Her. Protestantism also rejects The Holy Eucharist. Protestantism is leading many souls down the path to nothingness.

As I said in the beginning of my posts, we are to respect the right for others to believe as they wish, but it is ridiculous to say that Catholics are to respect other religions. This would go against Jesus and His Holy Apostles and makes no logical sense. It is like telling me I must respect a religion that believes in animal sacrifices or that worships satan, just because it is a religion!

 

[Zooey]

I have a serious, serious suspicion that everyone who said “no” was basically lying.

In fact, I’m almost totally sure of it.

[SIGN]Pshaw. Piffle. Pfui.[/SIGN]

I’m standing by my assertion on the basis that I think you all have a very self-serving definition of the word “negative.”

If you can, in good faith, dispute this, then I’m perfectly willing to eat my words, but I’m pretty sure that if other religions get mentioned in church (and they do-- I’ve been in plenty of churches) then it certainly isn’t to enumerate their positive qualities.

You haven’t been in mine, yean.

Going to be in Upstate/Western NY anytime soon? There is always room beside my family in the pew. You can listen for yourself.

And then take a wee spin to the east, come to my church with me. You’ll be amazed.

Okay, well I obviously need to pick my battles better.

I’m sorry I called everyone a liar; I didn’t really mean for that statement to be as offensive as it evidentally was seeing as how this argument has expanded into other threads and caused a minor uproar among some of you regulars.

**Just for the record, though, I **
**wasn’t **
**born **
**yesterday. **

I’ll just leave it at that.

I’m betting I was born before you.

 

[Zooey]

I may be completely wrong but my theory is that certain non Catholic religions define their doctrine by what they feel is wrong with the Catholic faith, therefore they do teach negatively about it.

I think that you’re right. I also think this is very sad.

I just lurked for about 5 minutes at the CARM website and was sickened by the blatant attacks on Catholicism. No wonder why some posters here doubt that Catholics don’t teach hatred from the pulpit; it seems there are many other Chrisitian churches that do.

It’s disgusting. They banned me before I could post. ( Maybe they thought thathttp://bestsmileys.com/innocent/1.gif **I **was going to be trouble???)

Back in the day when my mother could force me to go to church I heard lots of anti-Catholic information. I remember one particular sermon where the pastor villified Catholicism for a good 15 minutes. In retrospect that particular sermon was the final straw in my journey away from pretending to believe. My first and only boyfriend who was dying of leukemia at the time was Catholic and I spent a lot time around him and his parents in the hospital and such. Never once did I see in them any of the things my pastor described. That destroyed what was left of my respect for him.

When my friend died my mother wouldn’t let me go to his funeral because it was a Catholic funeral. She wouldn’t let me go because the church she belonged to was extremely anti-Catholic and she saw my going as something akin to blasphemy. I’ll never forgive her for that. His last words to me were “I love you” and he was the only boy I’ve ever kissed…and she wouldn’t let me go to his funeral because of the hatred of Catholics the church instilled in her.

That is heartbreaking. I am:crying: so sorry that you had to go through that…May your friend rest in the peace of Christ.

 

[f0rg1v3n]

I was raised devout Methodist in a small town. Because it was a small town, I spent some amount of time at various churches in my community (which was about 50% catholic). I was taught to respect all religions that honored the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Catholic church was revered in high regard in my home, but we were taught that we could never join because you had to be raised in the tradition of the Church to be a member. I married a Baptist and came across some interesting things that were taught there. I was glad that I was raised in a religion that truly believes in “open doors, open minds, open hearts”. Now, God does funny things…after 13 years of marriage and raising our family in the Methodist Tradition, we are now seriously considering RCIA at our local parish.