Wet Dreams- Mortal Sin?

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So I took a nap yesterday, and I started to have a wet dream. I started to masturbate, and then I woke up. When I realized I was masturbating, I immediately stopped. Did I commit a mortal sin? I feel terrible inside, and I’m scared I’m not in a state of grace.

Edit: If I didn’t commit a mortal sin, should I still confess this wet dream?
 
So I took a nap yesterday, and I started to have a wet dream. I started to masturbate, and then I woke up. When I realized I was masturbating, I immediately stopped. Did I commit a mortal sin? I feel terrible inside, and I’m scared I’m not in a state of grace.

Edit: If I didn’t commit a mortal sin, should I still confess this wet dream?
You can’t sin while asleep. If you’re not conscious, it is not an act of the will.

God Bless
 
One can experience the effects of such a happening…and to a chaste person …one can feel disturbed that such occurred. Even if there is no sin.

“feelings” do not always corrospond to reality. And while feelings “can” play a role in conscience --they do not per se = conscience (which has more to do with reason).

One recognizes the truth --of what is sin or what was not sin - and then sets off along the road following Christ

(repenting when there is sin and thanking God for virtue)
 
Catechism:

1778 Conscience is a judgment of reason whereby the human person recognizes the moral quality of a concrete act that he is going to perform, is in the process of performing, or has already completed
 
I don’t know. Do you suffer from scrupulosity? Were you engaing in unchaste behavior that may have brought on the dream?

God Bless
Well, I keep having these thoughts that I’m in a state of mortal sin because of this instance, even though I keep telling myself it’s not true and just because I feel bad, that doesn’t mean it’s a mortal sin. Is this being scrupulous?
 
Well, I keep having these thoughts that I’m in a state of mortal sin because of this instance, even though I keep telling myself it’s not true and just because I feel bad, that doesn’t mean it’s a mortal sin. Is this being scrupulous?
I’m no expert, but it seems like it might be a form of scrupulosity.

You should discuss it with a priest.

God Bless
 
I’m no expert, but it seems like it might be a form of scrupulosity.

You should discuss it with a priest.

God Bless
I’m going to confession this Friday, so I’ll talk to Father about it.
 
I’m going to confession this Friday, so I’ll talk to Father about it.
Good idea. I’d mention the dream, and your concerns, but not confess it.

If you discover that you are becoming scrupulous, there are steps you’ll need to take, e.g. having a regular confessor, limiting the frequency of your confession, etc. You priest should be able to direct you.

God Bless
 
Mortal sin requires three conditions: 1) Grave matter, 2) Full knowledge, 3) Free consent of the will. Something has to be very bad, you have to know it’s bad, and you have to freely consent to doing it anyway. If any of these conditions is missing, then it is not a mortal sin. It’s like the fire triangle–heat, oxygen, fuel. Anything missing=no fire. Any condition missing for a mortal sin=no mortal sin.

-ACEGC
 
For what it’s worth, in St. Peter Morrone’s–aka Pope St. Celestine V’s–memoirs (reproduced in Medieval Hagiography: an Anthology, edited by Thomas Head) he talks about how he became scrupulous about nocturnal emissions and whether or not he should receive communion afterward. Then, he had a dream where he he was tied to a donkey, and he was leading the donkey up a mountain towards a beautiful church. The donkey kept defecating on its way up. Peter decided he should not enter the church with the donkey as its feces would soil the church, but he could not leave it outside. Then Christ appeared in priestly garments and encouraged him to enter the church, but Peter explained to Him why he could not. Christ then said something to the effect of, “what is it to Me if the donkey merely does what is natural to it?” and so Peter and his donkey entered the church with a clean conscience. Peter wrote that after that dream, he no longer worried about such emmissions.
 
Some people, including myself, periodically experience “lucid dreams” in which to varying degrees we are aware that we are dreaming and can control the dream at will. For this reason I’m more hesitant than most people about the idea that it is always impossible to sin while asleep. I personally have, to all subjective perceptions anyway, forced the desexualization of my dreams at least twice, once out of moral concerns and once out of fidelity to my then-girlfriend (who was not the subject of the dream).

Most people, however, never experience this degree of lucidity and control in their dreams, and even for those of us who do it is an unusual thing, with normal dreaming much more common. In these cases there is no opportunity for the kind of moral reflection and deliberate choice that are essential parts of committing a mortal sin. Indeed, I suspect that even in lucid dreams one’s consciousness may still be sufficiently impaired to reduce culpability to a venial sin.

The idea of masturbating while asleep, as opposed to having a sexual dream an/or involuntary nocturnal emission, seems a bit odd to me since generally one does not move significantly in one’s sleep or is not aware of one’s movements. I can think of a few possibilities about what you mean, one of which was that you were really only “half asleep.” But even in that case it’s still likely your awareness was sufficiently impaired to prevent whatever happened from being a mortal sin.

Needless to say, if this was a “half-asleep” thing don’t let yourself fall into the line of thinking that you “got away” with it because of your drowsiness and use it as an excuse to attempt to replicate the experience in the future. But in your case it sounds like scrupulosity (whether true OCD scrupulosity or just something analogous), not unscrupulosity, is more likely the problem you are encountering, as others have said.
 
Good idea. I’d mention the dream, and your concerns, but not confess it.

If you discover that you are becoming scrupulous, there are steps you’ll need to take, e.g. having a regular confessor, limiting the frequency of your confession, etc. You priest should be able to direct you.

God Bless
So should I mention this after my confession or during my confession?
 
For what it’s worth, in St. Peter Morrone’s–aka Pope St. Celestine V’s–memoirs (reproduced in Medieval Hagiography: an Anthology, edited by Thomas Head) he talks about how he became scrupulous about nocturnal emissions and whether or not he should receive communion afterward. Then, he had a dream where he he was tied to a donkey, and he was leading the donkey up a mountain towards a beautiful church. The donkey kept defecating on its way up. Peter decided he should not enter the church with the donkey as its feces would soil the church, but he could not leave it outside. Then Christ appeared in priestly garments and encouraged him to enter the church, but Peter explained to Him why he could not. Christ then said something to the effect of, “what is it to Me if the donkey merely does what is natural to it?” and so Peter and his donkey entered the church with a clean conscience. Peter wrote that after that dream, he no longer worried about such emmissions.
Thats very interesting. But from a humorous point of view can you imagine someone taking a deficating donkey into the church and saying its only natural?😃

This dream to me illustrates how we dont have all our faculties when we are in the dream state. Could he not have untied himself or got help? Yet, if we are overly skeptical we could miss out on the meaning of this dream and what God wants to tell us through it. Obviously this saint thought that God can speak to us through our dreams.

Perhaps the op can ask God to show him what these dreams mean.

It might seem confusing to us that something when done awake is a serious sin but when asleep is no longer a sin. I think when it comes to our sexuality we can learn from this that none of the natural actions of our bodies are sinful that occur during masturbation, for they are all natural to the way God made us. It is the intent that is sinful. For instance, Something done outside of marriage may be sinful but inside marriage it is not. Yet, it is the same act.

Thus, the same act done asleep vs awake can be interpreted differently since the intention is different. When someone is asleep their will is weakened. When that same person is awake their will may be strong. The difference is being asleep. it is something beyond their control. And without control, without the ability to make free choices how can it be sin? How can one be accountable for something they have little or no control over? Thus the will of the person when awake is what counts.
 
Thats very interesting. But from a humorous point of view can you imagine someone taking a deficating donkey into the church and saying its only natural?😃

This dream to me illustrates how we dont have all our faculties when we are in the dream state. Could he not have untied himself or got help? Yet, if we are overly skeptical we could miss out on the meaning of this dream and what God wants to tell us through it. Obviously this saint thought that God can speak to us through our dreams.

Perhaps the op can ask God to show him what these dreams mean.

It might seem confusing to us that something when done awake is a serious sin but when asleep is no longer a sin. I think when it comes to our sexuality we can learn from this that none of the natural actions of our bodies are sinful that occur during masturbation, for they are all natural to the way God made us. It is the intent that is sinful. For instance, Something done outside of marriage may be sinful but inside marriage it is not. Yet, it is the same act.

Thus, the same act done asleep vs awake can be interpreted differently since the intention is different. When someone is asleep their will is weakened. When that same person is awake their will may be strong. The difference is being asleep. it is something beyond their control. And without control, without the ability to make free choices how can it be sin? How can one be accountable for something they have little or no control over? Thus the will of the person when awake is what counts.
A somewhat technical point regarding the last part of your post: no weakening of the will can excuse sin. The will always remains free, and so a deliberate act of the will remains a free moral choice no matter how weak that will is. That is why, for example, the weakening of the human will after the Sin of Adam (combined with the disordering of the lower passions) enslaved us to sin rather than excusing us from sin. What is generally impaired in sleep is one’s ability to intellectually appreciate the morality or immorality of an action, and also the degree to which one’s will is involved at all in one’s thoughts and actions.
 
A somewhat technical point regarding the last part of your post: no weakening of the will can excuse sin. The will always remains free, and so a deliberate act of the will remains a free moral choice no matter how weak that will is. That is why, for example, the weakening of the human will after the Sin of Adam (combined with the disordering of the lower passions) enslaved us to sin rather than excusing us from sin. What is generally impaired in sleep is one’s ability to intellectually appreciate the morality or immorality of an action, and also the degree to which one’s will is involved at all in one’s thoughts and actions.
I think the idea that the will is weakened does have merit here when we are talking about sleeping. One of the conditions of mortal sin is that one must have full consent of the will. If one’s will is weakened to the point that they do not have full consent of the will that they have while awake. For instance, if a person masturbates in their sleep but can not control it because they do not have control how can they be held accountable for that? They may never masturbate when they are awake but when they go to sleep no matter what they do it makes no difference because what happens when they are asleep they have little control over. Are they supposed to constantly feel guilty for something they have no control over? It’s like being drunk or under the influence of a drug. It would be unjust to condemn a person in that situation. Sin is only sin when we make a choice to do something contrary to God’s law. If there is no freedom of choice how can there be sin? But you are right that there is little thought to the morality as well as usually cognitive awareness is low. For instance, you think you are engaged in sex with some woman in your dream. Certainly your perception of reality is scewed.

I think a good discussion of this issue is found here. Pay attention to Fr. Farraher’s essay.
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