Well, we read it differently, don’t we? There is no one in purgatory who has not been absolved of their sins, whether their contrition is perfect, or not.
It is certainly laudable, and to be encouraged. Having been absolved of sin does not preclude purgatory. Jesus forgave the thief on the cross, but instead of taking him along when He died, left him on the cross to suffer for the rest of the day and have his legs broken. He allowed the thief to suffer the temporal punishment of his already forgiven sin.
The two are not separated. As the wise men found Jesus upon the lap of Mary, bowing down to Him, so she is not absent as we kneel before God. She is now ever in His presence, and her soul magnifies the Lord, so as we look at Him through her, He is enlarged and clarified.
I believe (correct me if I’m wrong) that you believe that once a sin has been forgiven that all is done and over. THat is not really the case. Yes the Sin is forgiven and you are no longer in danger of the loss of heaven. But the raimifications of that sin can still be felt throughout the world. This must also be atoned for. Penace reduces this effect to a certain degree.
Possibly! But you don’t have to. You should get to know Saint Therese (the little flower) she will tell you all you need to know about skipping purgatory. She is a wonderful Saint.
We don’t know but we must trust in the mercy of God!
Saint Therese of Lisieux, tells us we do not have to go through purgatory. GIve her a read to learn how.
Not true. If you only committed venial sin, and then, without reconciliation, died… you would need purgation (aka ‘purgatory’).
“Purgatory” isn’t a final destination. If you “die in a state of perfect contrition” for your sins – presuming that you hadn’t been avoiding the sacrament of reconciliation for quite a while, right? – then your final destination will be heaven… but you might need ‘purgation’ on the way there.
That’s what @brian_custer is talking about, more or less, with his appeal to “perfect contrition.”
Is not everyone in purgatory destined for heaven? St. Paul wrote that he was not aware of anything against Himself, but did not judge himself (worthy of heaven) because there are parts of ourselves we cannot know. We may have unconscious attachments to sin of which we are unaware.
One of the great saints.thistle:
Saint Therese of Lisieux, tells us we do not have to go through purgatory. GIve her a read to learn how.
Yes.
God knows. He purges us of our imperfections, and admits us into the Beatific Vision.
This contradicts the Church teaching which says it is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.
For us, there is no distinction. Mary only deserves any veneration because Jesus has given it to her.
She knew that she bore the Son of God, as the Angel told her. She understood that anyone who knelt, did so our of reverence for her Divine Son.
I do not think it is possible to love the Mother of God “to disgrace”, but I do agree that some people do seem to go “overboard” and treat her like a goddess. I agree that Mary would be abhorred by such behavior. She points to her Son only.
No, both things are true. Being separated from our attachment to sin can be very painful. Anyone who has ever given up a favorite vice knows this. At the same time, the purification to prepare us for Heaven is entirely different from the punishment of the damned. For those who die in Christ, the final destination is the beatific vision. For those who have rejected God, the final destination is eternal separation from Him.
Yeah, but the ‘punishment of the damned’ isn’t a “being separated from one’s attachment to sin”…thistle:
No, both things are true. Being separated from our attachment to sin can be very painful. Anyone who has ever given up a favorite vice knows this.