What about all those contradictions in the Bible?

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It’s likely that many readers of the Bible have encountered passages in it that are difficult to understand. Have you ever encountered anything in the Bible that you consider constitutes a true contradiction?

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Mick
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It’s likely that many readers of the Bible have encountered passages in it that are difficult to understand. Have you ever encountered anything in the Bible that you consider constitutes a true contradiction?

Inquiringly,
Mick
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Decendents of the Nephilim after the deluge was supposed to destroy them.

Genesis 6:4

Numbers 13:33
 
The description of the moltent sea in 1Kings is said to contain 2000 bath. In Sammuel it says it held 4000 bath.

There are many of these kinds of numerical contadictions in both the old and new testaments.
 
It’s likely that many readers of the Bible have encountered passages in it that are difficult to understand. Have you ever encountered anything in the Bible that you consider constitutes a true contradiction?

Inquiringly,
Mick
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John’s Gospel seems to contradict the synoptic Gospels on when Christ actually was crucified. The answer I’ve seen scholars give is the potential for a double-passover.
 
One and only one. Genesis 7:1-4. God tells Noah to take more of the clean animals then the unclean, but He has not yet told us which are which
 
John’s Gospel seems to contradict the synoptic Gospels on when Christ actually was crucified. The answer I’ve seen scholars give is the potential for a double-passover.
And, I’ll raise you, three Purims…
 
Decendents of the Nephilim after the deluge was supposed to destroy them.

Genesis 6:4

Numbers 13:33
In consistency with the Septuagint and the Vulgate the term “Nephilim” (Hebrew: נְפִילִים) is a generic term for “giants” in general.
Some expositors believe it may refer more to the ferocity and strength of the people who are referred to, rather than their physical height, though in the Book of Numbers, intentional stress on height is apparent.
In the Hebrew Bible, there are a number of other words that, like “Nephilim”, are sometimes translated as “giants”:
* Emim (“the fearful ones”)
* Rephaim (“the dead ones”)
* Anakim (“the [long]-necked ones”)
 
The description of the moltent sea in 1Kings is said to contain 2000 bath. In Sammuel it says it held 4000 bath.

There are many of these kinds of numerical contadictions in both the old and new testaments.
Took me a little while to find it, but I found it here in the KJV:

1 Kings 7:26
And it was an hand breadth thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths.

2 Chronicles 4:5
And the thickness of it was an handbreadth, and the brim of it like the work of the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies; and it received and held three thousand baths.

Well it could hold three thousand baths, but it contained only two thousand baths…
 
John’s Gospel seems to contradict the synoptic Gospels on when Christ actually was crucified. The answer I’ve seen scholars give is the potential for a double-passover.
John’s Gospel implies that at the time of the trial the Jewish leaders had not yet eaten the Passover meal and explicitly states just prior to his sentencing “And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour.” This places the crucifixion on Nisan 14, since the law mandated the lamb had to be sacrificed between 3:00 pm and 5:00 pm and eaten before midnight on Nissan 14. This understanding fits well with Old Testament typology, in which Jesus entered Jerusalem to identify himself as the Paschal lamb on Nisan 10, was crucified and died at 3:00 in the afternoon of Nisan 14, at the same time the High Priest would have sacrificed the Paschal lamb, and rose before dawn the morning of Nisan 16, as a type of offering of the First Fruits.

John 13:1-4a states that the supper was before the feast:
“Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end. And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, to betray him; Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God; He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments.”

Matthew 27:62 is the day after the burial:
“Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate”

Mark 15:42 dates His crucifixion on the preparation day too…
“And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,”

Luke 23:54
“And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.”

John 19:42
“There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews’ preparation day”

As far as I can see there is no contradiction in the timelines… The last supper was before the feast of the passover on Nisan 13 (see John 13). The crucifixion was on the day of preparation (Nisan 14) and the burial was on the day after (see Matthew 27, Mark 15, Luke 23 and John 19).
 
In consistency with the Septuagint and the Vulgate the term “Nephilim” (Hebrew: נְפִילִים) is a generic term for “giants” in general.
Some expositors believe it may refer more to the ferocity and strength of the people who are referred to, rather than their physical height, though in the Book of Numbers, intentional stress on height is apparent.
In the Hebrew Bible, there are a number of other words that, like “Nephilim”, are sometimes translated as “giants”:
* Emim (“the fearful ones”)
* Rephaim (“the dead ones”)
* Anakim (“the [long]-necked ones”)
The Book of Enoch 6-9

6 1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto 2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: ‘Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.’ And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: ‘I fear ye will not 4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.’ And they all answered him and said: ‘Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations 5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.’ Then sware they all together and bound themselves 6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samiazaz, their leader, Arakiba, Rameel, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.

7 1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed 4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against 5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

8 1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals (of the earth) and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all 2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they 3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and rootcuttings, Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, (Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs 4 of the sun), and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven…

9 1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being 2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: ‘The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryings up to the gates of heaven. 3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, Bring our cause 4 before the Most High.’ And they said to the Lord of the ages: ’ Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, (and God of the ages); the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the 5 ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all 6 things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over 8 his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the 9 women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have 10 borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are 11 wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.’
 
The Book of Jubilees 5:1-2

1 And it came to pass when the children of men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them, that the angels of God saw them on a certain year of this jubilee, that they were beautiful to look upon; and they took themselves wives of all whom they chose, and they bare unto them sons and they were giants.
2 And lawlessness increased on the earth and all flesh corrupted its way, alike men and cattle and beasts and birds and everything that walks on the earth -all of them corrupted their ways and their orders, and they began to devour each other, and lawlessness increased on the earth and every imagination of the thoughts of all men (was) thus evil continually.
 
Took me a little while to find it, but I found it here in the KJV:

1 Kings 7:26
And it was an hand breadth thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths.

2 Chronicles 4:5
And the thickness of it was an handbreadth, and the brim of it like the work of the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies; and it received and held three thousand baths.

Well it could hold three thousand baths, but it contained only two thousand baths…
carm.org/bible-difficulties/joshua-esther/how-many-baths-2000-or-3000

How many baths, 2,000 or 3,000?
  1. 2,000 baths (1 Kings 7:26) - “And it was a handbreadth thick, and its brim was made like the brim of a cup, as a lily blossom; it could hold two thousand baths.”
  2. 3,000 baths (2 Chronicles 4:5) - “And it was a handbreadth thick, and its brim was made like the brim of a cup, like a lily blossom; it could hold 3,000 baths.”
It appears that the difference in numbers is do to a copyist error. The characters used for the numbers 2,000 and 3,000 are similar. = 2,000 and = 3,000. A tired copyist could easily mistake one for another.1
 
One and only one. Genesis 7:1-4. God tells Noah to take more of the clean animals then the unclean, but He has not yet told us which are which
Until the time of Moses all traditions and customs had been passed down by oral tradition. Moses compiled all these Words of God together possibly taking the classification into clean and unclean for granted. He did however spell them out on the occasion that God mentioned them to him explicitly.
Another example is the following: Moses did not expand on the sacrifices of Cain and Abel. The standards on how to sacrifice unto the Lord are described in Leviticus as well. Abel’s sacrifice that was according to the standard found favor in the Lord’s eye while Cain’s did not.
 
Until the time of Moses all traditions and customs had been passed down by oral tradition. Moses compiled all these Words of God together possibly taking the classification into clean and unclean for granted. He did however spell them out on the occasion that God mentioned them to him explicitly.
Another example is the following: Moses did not expand on the sacrifices of Cain and Abel. The standards on how to sacrifice unto the Lord are described in Leviticus as well. Abel’s sacrifice that was according to the standard found favor in the Lord’s eye while Cain’s did not.
I was always under the impression that the issue with Cain and Able was one of type. Able gave of the first fruits, where Cain gave of what was left.

If God told them prior to Leviticus what was and was not clean, why did he have to codify it later?
 
Took me a little while to find it, but I found it here in the KJV:

1 Kings 7:26
And it was an hand breadth thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths.

2 Chronicles 4:5
And the thickness of it was an handbreadth, and the brim of it like the work of the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies; and it received and held three thousand baths.

Well it could hold three thousand baths, but it contained only two thousand baths…
Well, regardless, the flood didn’t happen the way it is described and commonly understood (universal). Since the whole flood narrative seems to interrupt the surrounding chapters of Genesis, I’ve always figured it was either interpolation of a story from a surrounding culture (e.g. Gilgamesh or something similar), or, that it is out of place in the Biblical timeline.
 
I was always under the impression that the issue with Cain and Able was one of type. Able gave of the first fruits, where Cain gave of what was left.

If God told them prior to Leviticus what was and was not clean, why did he have to codify it later?
Among the standards for sacrifices is that the first fruit belongs to the Lord. Leviticus goes into precise detail and grain offerings are mentioned too. A blemished offering to the Lord is however unacceptable according to Leviticus (and e.g. Malachi)
In addition to that Leviticus is a book of the Law and not of a historical account …
The first 16 chapters and the last chapter make up the Priestly Code, with rules for ritual cleanliness, sin-offerings, and the Day of Atonement, including Chapter 12 which mandates male circumcision. Chapters 17-26 contain the Holiness Code, including the injunction in chapter 19 to “love one’s neighbor as oneself” (the Great Commandment).
 
Well, regardless, the flood didn’t happen the way it is described and commonly understood (universal). Since the whole flood narrative seems to interrupt the surrounding chapters of Genesis, I’ve always figured it was either interpolation of a story from a surrounding culture (e.g. Gilgamesh or something similar), or, that it is out of place in the Biblical timeline.
If the flood had been local why didn’t God tell Noah to simply move?
 
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