What actually makes a marriage invalid? [CNA]

[Vico]

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But lets change the question to why you seem to believe Mary or John the Baptist or Adam and Eve never possessed sanctifying grace before Jesus began his public ministry?

I did not say that.

From Post #74:

Answer: In that quote, I am referring to today.

CIC Can. 842 §1. A person who has not received baptism cannot be admitted validly to the other sacraments.

Baltimore Catechism No. 3:
Q. 631. Is Baptism necessary to salvation?
A. Baptism is necessary to salvation, because without it we cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Q. 644. How many kinds of Baptism are there?
A. There are three kinds of Baptism: .Baptism of water, of desire, and of blood.

Q. 620. When was baptism instituted?

A. Baptism was instituted, very probably, about the time Our Lord was baptized by St. John, and its reception was commanded when after His resurrection Our Lord said to His Apostles: “All power is given to Me in heaven and in earth. Going, therefore, teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”

Q. 626. Did not St. John the Baptist institute the Sacrament of Baptism?
A. St. John the Baptist did not institute the Sacrament of Baptism, for Christ alone could institute a Sacrament. The baptism given by St. John had the effect of a Sacramental; that is, it did not of itself give grace, but prepared the way for it.

 

[Vico]

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My question has always been, regardless of what you originally meant, “Let me repeat my question…why do you believe sanctification is never already at work and present with those caught up in irregular situations (or natural marriages for that matter).”
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I never said that. Do you want to discuss what I actually said, which is available earlier in the thread which you called “beating a dead horse”?

Modern Catholic Dictionary
Sanctification (definition)

Being made holy. The first sanctification takes place at baptism, by which the love of God is infused by the Holy Spirit (Romans 5:5). Newly baptized persons are holy because the Holy Trinity begins to dwell in their souls and they are pleasing to God. The second sanctification is a lifelong process in which a person alredy in the state of grace grows in the possession of grace and in likeness to God by faithfully corresponding with divine inspirations. The third sanctification takes place when a person enters heaven and becomes totally and irrevocably united with God in the beatific vision. (Etym. Latin sanctificare, to make holy.)

 

[Blue_Horizon]

I never said that. Do you want to discuss what I actually said, which is available earlier in the thread which you called “beating a dead horse”?

Modern Catholic Dictionary
Sanctification (definition)

Being made holy. The first sanctification takes place at baptism, by which the love of God is infused by the Holy Spirit (Romans 5:5). Newly baptized persons are holy because the Holy Trinity begins to dwell in their souls and they are pleasing to God. The second sanctification is a lifelong process in which a person alredy in the state of grace grows in the possession of grace and in likeness to God by faithfully corresponding with divine inspirations. The third sanctification takes place when a person enters heaven and becomes totally and irrevocably united with God in the beatific vision. (Etym. Latin sanctificare, to make holy.)

Unsurprisingly I invite you to answer the question I have always posed to you that, rightly or wrongly, I took from your own contribution.Its called dialogue, discussion. If you do not wish to do so that is OK.

 

[Vico]

Unsurprisingly I invite you to answer the question I have always posed to you that, rightly or wrongly, I took from your own contribution.Its called dialogue, discussion. If you do not wish to do so that is OK.

The answer to your question of: “why do you believe sanctification is never already at work and present with those caught up in irregular situations (or natural marriages for that matter).” is as I stated before, that I do not believe that.