What am I required to believe when converting to the Latin Rite?

[Sy_Noe]

of course they are Catholic. I used to be heterodox (though not by choice, but by lack of education).

I personally feel their are three groups of heterodox and three groups of orthodox.

The three groups of heterodox are:
– heterodox due to lack of proper catechesis and/or evangelization
– heterodox due to incomplete catechesis and/or evangelization
– heterodox despite proper catechesis and evangelization, who are extremely public with their objections and combative.

Personally, I only have “issues” with the last group because they seek to radically change the church (and they can be either progressive or traditional), whether they be pro female ordination or Sedevacantism - both are damaging to the Church.

In regards to the orthodox, I believe there are also three groups of orthodox

The three groups of orthodox are:
– orthodox due to proper catechesis AND evangelization
– orthodox due to proper evangelization BUT lack adequate catechesis
– orthodox due to proper catechesis BUT lack adequate evangelization

I also personally could have some “issues” with the last group here because some might tend too legalistic, lacking mercy.

This is why it’s so important for Parishes to have healthy evangelization and catechesis programs for teens and adults. Programs like Catholic Bible Studies (during hours when working people can actually attend), Christ Life for evangelization, YDisciple for teen discipleship, Symbolon for AFF, men & women’s discipleship groups, etc.

Our goal should be to evangelize and catechesis everyone in our parishes, and then set them loose on evangelizing and catechizing the world.

God Bless.

So a heterodox could list their CAF religion ID to say just Catholic with no adjectives and CAF is not going to complain? I don’t know. They might want the church to change but I’m not sure they really think it will or that they can change it. Thank you and God bless you too!

 

[TimothyH]

I love that definition and that wording is what prompted this thread

Seems so much easier to comprehend and explain than some of the other wordy definitions out there regarding original sin.

If you try to talk to a Cistercian monk about dogma or doctrine or systematic theology they are likely to look at you as if you have three heads. Faith to them is not a puzzle to be solved but a mystery to be entered into.

They understand the difference between goal and purpose. The goal is eternal blessedness in the presence of the Father. The immediate purpose, what they are trying to accomplish today, is the sanctification of their soul - purity of heart. The purpose today helps us achieve our goal tomorrow.

Purity of heart is not achieved by figuring out how baptism works but by embracing our baptismal promises and living a life of divine filiation. Purity of heart is not achieved by explaining the difference between mortal and venial sin but by, as a monk put it to me, “a process of subtraction. Subtraction of greed, of selfishness, self hatred, and gossip. All these cover the divine image.”

OraLabora, who is a Benedictine oblate, said it well a few posts earlier…

The most important “doctrine” IMHO is, once we’ve been baptized, to assent to allowing Grace into our lives.

I applaud you for asking tough questions slh3016.

-Tim-

 

[slh3016]

If you try to talk to a Cistercian monk about dogma or doctrine or systematic theology they are likely to look at you as if you have three heads. Faith to them is not a puzzle to be solved but a mystery to be entered into.

They understand the difference between goal and purpose. The goal is eternal blessedness in the presence of the Father. The immediate purpose, what they are trying to accomplish today, is the sanctification of their soul - purity of heart. The purpose today helps us achieve our goal tomorrow.

Purity of heart is not achieved by figuring out how baptism works but by embracing our baptismal promises and living a life of divine filiation. Purity of heart is not achieved by explaining the difference between mortal and venial sin but by, as a monk put it to me, "a process of subtraction. Subtraction of greed, of selfishness, self hatred, and gossip. All these cover the divine image."

OraLabora, who is a Benedictine oblate, said it well a few posts earlier…

The most important “doctrine” IMHO is, once we’ve been baptized, to assent to allowing Grace into our lives.

This (above) is EXACTLY what I’m aiming at Thank you for sharing that.

I applaud you for asking tough questions slh3016.

-Tim-

Part of that is that, by nature, I am very legalistic (I attribute that to my degree in accounting…all the columns have to balance )

BUT, that being said, if I claim that the Catholic Church is the fullness of truth to those around me who cannot understand, I want to be able to show and live a life that demonstrates an aim toward purity of heart, not a rigid, cold heart that just wants to check a list, which is what some family members perceive Catholics to be.