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I love the Church, but my focus is almost entirely on Christ. I pray to Christ, try to imitate Christ, think, eat, breathe, Jesus. I think it all comes down to one question: ***can one carry His cross? ***👍
 
PauloFreire2 said:
I love the Church, but my focus is almost entirely on Christ. I pray to Christ, try to imitate Christ, think, eat, breathe, Jesus. I think it all comes down to one question: ***can one carry His cross? ***👍
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We don’t carry His, we carry our own 🙂
 
PauloFreire2 said:
I love the Church, but my focus is almost entirely on Christ. I pray to Christ, try to imitate Christ, think, eat, breathe, Jesus. I think it all comes down to one question: ***can one carry His cross? ***👍
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Well, back in the 60’s you’d be called a “Jesus Freak”. 😃

Seriously, it sounds like you may have a vocation calling.
 
I love the Church, but my focus is almost entirely on Christ
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Why “but?” The two aren’t exclusive. Anyone who loves the Church is already focused entirely on Christ to begin with, the totality of Christ and His message (that’s why He gave us His Church).

Speaking for myself as a Catholic, I would say “and” (I love the Church, and my focus is . . .etc. although of course I need to do more–don’t we all?)
 
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I love the Church, but my focus is almost entirely on Christ. I pray to Christ, try to imitate Christ, think, eat, breathe, Jesus. I think it all comes down to one question: ***can one carry His cross? ***👍
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Who are you? Confused.
  1. Loving the Church does not imply separation between Church and Christ, yet you do.
  2. We Catholics carry our own Cross. You apparently think you are called to carry His.
  3. Perhaps you should speak to a priest.
 
No, we do carry His cross – the cross of suffering the consequences of fighting for the truth. His cross WAS and REMAINS our cross. We are one in the same. That’s why God became Man. WE MUST IMITATE JESUS.👍
 
PauloFreire2 said:
I love the Church, but my focus is almost entirely on Christ. I pray to Christ, try to imitate Christ, think, eat, breathe, Jesus. I think it all comes down to one question: ***can one carry His cross? ***👍
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Strange, my focus is on Mother Mary. I come to Jesus through her. Just my way of doing things, an opinion only:)
 
I didn’t say I wanted to beat up Fr. Corapi. Those are your words, not mine. :mad:
 
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I didn’t say I wanted to beat up Fr. Corapi. Those are your words, not mine. :mad:
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No. You said this:
To be honest (not that I’ve lied to any of you…yet), I get so angry listening to him, I can imagine myself hitting him. It’s an unpleasant thought, granted, but the guy is extremely offensive to me.
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No matter. You know what you said on that thread. So you’ll forgive me if I’m not totally taken by your “I love the Church but focus on Jesus” sentiment as if the two concepts can be separated, and then right after blasting one of Christ’s ordained ministers who does nothing but speak the hard truth of the Gospel of Christ whom you claim to follow or imitate.
 
PauloFreire2 said:
I love the Church, but my focus is almost entirely on Christ. I pray to Christ, try to imitate Christ, think, eat, breathe, Jesus. I think it all comes down to one question: ***can one carry His cross? ***👍
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”Between Christ and the Church there is no opposition”

**by Benedict XVI
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**Therefore, there is no way to reconcile Christ’s intentions with the slogan that was fashionable a few years ago, “Christ yes, the Church no.” The individualist Jesus is a fantasy. We cannot find Jesus without the reality that he created and through which he communicates himself.

Between the Son of God, made man and his Church, there is a profound, inseparable continuity, in virtue of which Christ is present today in his people.

He is always our contemporary – our contemporary in the Church built upon the foundation of the apostles. He is alive in the succession of the apostles. And his presence in the community, in which he himself always gives himself, is the reason for our joy. Yes, Christ is with us, the Kingdom of God is coming.
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“So? What do you want a brownie button? Do you have a particular point you are trying to make or simply blowing your own prayer horn?”

Wow. That’s a rude comment. You need to read, Mere Christianity.👍
 
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“So? What do you want a brownie button? Do you have a particular point you are trying to make or simply blowing your own prayer horn?”

Wow. That’s a rude comment. You need to read, Mere Christianity.👍
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What is rude is your OP. You need to stop reading and start praying. 👍
 
The Church simply has too much baggage. That’s understandable, given its long history and enormous contribution to the making of Western Civilization. The Church’s theology is superb, as well, but the task of active worship is simply too complicated. It should be all about Jesus. He is the bottom line – not the Bible, the sacraments, Paul, angels, Mary, the Pope, or anything or anyone else. It’s all about Jesus Christ. CAN YOU FOLLOW HIM?👍
 
“What is rude is your OP. You need to stop reading and start praying.”

I pray a lot, and right now I’m praying for you.👍
 
Yes, Jesus is the bottom line, but He is not, and never has been, in opposition to Mary, the saints, the Church, the Pope, etc.

It has never been a question (as one poster pointed out using the excellent words of Benedict XVI) of Christ OR The Church/The Pope/Mary/The Saints/Etc., but always Christ THROUGH The Church/The Pope/Mary/The Saints/ Etc.

He came to us, not directly, but indirectly, through a woman. He spoke to us through the Scripture and Sacred Tradition. His message was spent through his disciples and through all humanity. His ministry is established through His Church. His example was shown to us through the saints.

All lead to Christ.
 
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The Church simply has too much baggage. That’s understandable, given its long history and enormous contribution to the making of Western Civilization. The Church’s theology is superb, as well, but the task of active worship is simply too complicated. It should be all about Jesus. He is the bottom line – not the Bible, the sacraments, Paul, angels, Mary, the Pope, or anything or anyone else. It’s all about Jesus Christ. CAN YOU FOLLOW HIM?👍
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Really? I don’t think you focus on Jesus enough because if you did you’d realize he’d disagree with your opinion of His Church and His mother. How in the world would you know anything about Christ if we didn’t have the Bible & the Church? We are the body of Christ.
  1. As a body is one though it has many parts, and all the parts of the body, though many, are one body, so also Christ.
  2. For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free persons, and we were all given to drink of one Spirit.
  3. Now the body is not a single part, but many.
  4. If a foot should say, “Because I am not a hand I do not belong to the body,” it does not for this reason belong any less to the body.
  5. Or if an ear should say, “Because I am not an eye I do not belong to the body,” it does not for this reason belong any less to the body.
  6. If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole body were hearing, where would the sense of smell be?
  7. But as it is, God placed the parts, each one of them, in the body as he intended.
  8. If they were all one part, where would the body be?
  9. But as it is, there are many parts, yet one body.
  10. The eye cannot say to the hand, “I do not need you,” nor again the head to the feet, “I do not need you.”
  11. Indeed, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are all the more necessary,
  12. and those parts of the body that we consider less honorable we surround with greater honor, and our less presentable parts are treated with greater propriety,
  13. whereas our more presentable parts do not need this. But God has so constructed the body as to give greater honor to a part that is without it,
  14. so that there may be no division in the body, but that the parts may have the same concern for one another.
  15. If [one] part suffers, all the parts suffer with it; if one part is honored, all the parts share its joy.
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The question isn’t if I can follow him but can you?
 
PauloFreire2 said:
“What is rude is your OP. You need to stop reading and start praying.”

I pray a lot, and right now I’m praying for you.👍
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I once had a person tell me that after having the same discussion you started here. 😃
On their 30th birthday, my priest and sisters in the Third Order filled 30 balloons with hot air and we all went outside and watched them float up up and away. Then we offered Mass for the poor soul.👍
When is your birthday?
 
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