What am I supposed to do now?

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Okay, I’m trying to remain calm. Please read this comment that someone posted on my Facebook in response to the letter that Bishop Soto released in the wake of the Prop. 8 ruling. I’ll explain below why, and the bolded stuff are my thoughts:
Sometimes a sentence can require many pages of response…

I told someone else, who complained that I wrote long responses to simple statements, that sometimes it’s necessary and is NOT a sign that my statements are weak
A little while back I talked about abstraction in one of your posts, and to honest I don’t want to talk anymore about the nature of truth. Instead, I will point out that the process of discovering truth is the bread and butter of scientific inquiry. That is the language that the justice system works in. The idea of morals is just not the same language. Speaking of morals in a judicial setting is like talking Portuguese in Spain, yes there is some overlap but everyone is going to be a little confused and annoyed.
I had said that law is the legislation of a people’s morality, whether religious or secular
You can say anything you want, and no one will impinge on that. The belief that homosexuals are sinners can be preached from the mountaintop. Even lies like “homosexuals are rapists and pedophiles” (something I hear disturbingly often in religious circles) can be said. However, when you try to separate a class of people you ABSOLUTELY must have some argument in a language the court understands. Proponents of Prop 8 put their collective might together, and failed to even make an argument (much less a compelling argument) in the court of law.
Could he perhaps be right on this point? I hope not!
That is what happens. There was no judicial activism. There was no innovation. There was no fundamental destruction of democracy. This was how the justice system was designed to work. Saying otherwise is disingenuous.

You want to influence the public discourse…fine, but don’t force us to speak your language. There is a universal way of communicating, and that is the entire goal of the American experiment.

Oh by the way, accusing the opponents of Prop 8 of histrionics is kind of insulting. Also [Lotus], I have spent nearly a year watching your posts. It has become quite clear to me that your goal is to create a political system based entirely on Catholicism (hell your political affiliation on facebook is Papist). Not only do I find that line of thinking extremely dangerous, I think it is intellectually dishonest to say that you are interested in freedom.
Why, yes, actually, I am interested in creating a Catholic society. I’m not stopping either. And do I care about freedom? Not if it means a wholesale turning away from God, then absolutely not.
[Female friend], at one time in the past I talked about integrating Catholic values with the American legal system. Everyone in this thread was there for that, and I really don’t feel like reiterating it.

Suffice it to say, that your [plural] marriages have not changed. If they have, then it is your responsibility to show that it has.

I can’t challenge this because I can’t figure out how. I’m basically getting beat-up over this issue and I can’t, other than from religious grounds, fight to protect traditional marriage. I need help! Am I becoming a “clashing gong” we are warned against becoming? I kinda wish I had the eloquence of John Paul II, Fr. Barron, or the current Pope…

Pax!
 
I can’t challenge this because I can’t figure out how. I’m basically getting beat-up over this issue and I can’t, other than from religious grounds, fight to protect traditional marriage. I need help! Am I becoming a “clashing gong” we are warned against becoming? I kinda wish I had the eloquence of John Paul II, Fr. Barron, or the current Pope…

Pax!
Well, marriage came about because of religion, so I don’t know that you would be able to defend it as a secular institution since secularism doesn’t respect it anyway. If the secular people want you to defend traditional marriage without using religion and you attempt to do so, you will lose the debate. Our government (all 3 branches) is constantly moving away from traditional marriage and incorporating a free-for-all (where anything goes) in its place. Think its bad now? Wait another 50 years. If the word marriage exists at all, it will encompass MANY more possibilities than simply 1 man & 1 woman. Fifty years ago, the possibility of changing laws to allow same-sex marriages was just not even thinkable. Now… not only are courts and states moving in that direction, pre-schoolers are being taught with books like “One Dad, Two Dads, Brown Dad, Blue Dads”, “The Sissy Duckling” & “Daddy, Papa, and Me”. Indoctrinate the young so that there won’t be any controversy in the next generation.

Anyway, to answer your question, “What am I supposed to do now?” My suggestion would be to “block” them. You’re not going to change them so why frustrate yourself?
 
Okay, I’m trying to remain calm. Please read this comment that someone posted on my Facebook in response to the letter that Bishop Soto released in the wake of the Prop. 8 ruling. I’ll explain below why, and the bolded stuff are my thoughts:

I can’t challenge this because I can’t figure out how. I’m basically getting beat-up over this issue and I can’t, other than from religious grounds, fight to protect traditional marriage. I need help! Am I becoming a “clashing gong” we are warned against becoming? I kinda wish I had the eloquence of John Paul II, Fr. Barron, or the current Pope…

Pax!
Dear LotusCars,
A lot of the time, people who post intimidating responses on Facebook are just blowhards who aren’t worth wasting one’s time on.
Don’t feel too concerned that you’re responsible for ‘defending the Faith’ against this person. He/she may well be a political apologist for homosexual lifestyles, and is more interested in browbeating you than receiving good arguments for Catholicism.
If you do feel obliged to answer him/her, stay calm. Remember that the Holy Ghost speaks through Christians when they are called to defend their faith before others. By being charitable in your dialogue, you are showing the love of Christ.

God bless,
Michael
 
You can always go to the Natural Law to support life issues like marriage. And exposing the dirty reality of what is done behind closed doors in homosexual activities, spelled out in clear medical terms and including all the diseases that go hand-in-hand with them, can often render those proponents speachless because they know deep in their hearts that those activities cannot be justified spiritually or physically/medically.

It is only in a society where we have so much of everything, I believe, that some people start to think it’s ok to just do whatever they want. Most of us have not experienced going to bed hungry or being bombed by our enemies, i.e. struggling to preserve life, so life is taken for granted, God is taken out of the equation and people start doing weird unnatural things.

It sounds like that person could be considered “toxic”, as the new pop term puts it. I suggest you post one last final pithy comment, delete the person from your “Friends”, then consider deleting your whole Facebook account. I did that just recently and have to say I don’t miss the pain of dealing with that kind of dirt one bit.

Best wishes to you, and God bless.🙂
 
And exposing the dirty reality of what is done behind closed doors in homosexual activities, spelled out in clear medical terms and including all the diseases that go hand-in-hand with them, can often render those proponents speachless.
Spot on! That is the tack we need to relentlessly take in fighting sodomy: that it is a public health menace of the worst kind.
It is only in a society where we have so much of everything, I believe, that some people start to think it’s ok to just do whatever they want. Most of us have not experienced going to bed hungry or being bombed by our enemies, i.e. struggling to preserve life, so life is taken for granted, God is taken out of the equation and people start doing weird unnatural things.
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:amen::blessyou: It is a redux case of this:

*But Jesh’urun waxed fat, and kicked; you waxed fat, you grew thick, you became sleek; then he forsook God who made him, and scoffed at the Rock of his salvation.

They have corrupted themselves; They are not His children, Because of their blemish: A perverse and crooked generation.

They stirred him to jealousy with strange gods; with abominations they provoked him to anger. *

(from Deut. 32)
 
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