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Paris_Blues
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Huh? How can a child take their First Communion and not be confirmed? I thought anyone was confirmed when they took their First Communion!?
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Orionthehunter
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Paris Blues:
“They are Catholic as long as they make a verbal declaration they are Catholic (a Catholic version of “Born Again”? LOL). And by being Catholic, they can now dip their hand in Holy Water, Cross themselves, kneel, pray the rosary and do everything else a Catholic does (helps them begin the practice of doing “Catholic things” and over a fear that maybe they have to wait until Confirmation at the Easter Vigil) except recieve the sacraments. Now get ready for an Initiation that lasts for all Eternity!”
As for why youngsters (2nd grade in our diocese) are able to recieve Communion and Penance prior to being confirmed, it is my understanding that because they are not yet at an age to be accountable (age of reason I think it is called), they can’t personally make the pledge associated with confirmation. However, because they live in a Catholic home and being raised Catholic, they are able to recieve these Sacraments basically via the proxy of their parents confirmation. Once they are old enough to be confirmed, they either must become confirmed or cease to take the sacraments. I hope this is correct. Is their a Priest in the house? lol
As someone who is involved in our Parish RCIA program, I tell the Candidates that:
“They are Catholic as long as they make a verbal declaration they are Catholic (a Catholic version of “Born Again”? LOL). And by being Catholic, they can now dip their hand in Holy Water, Cross themselves, kneel, pray the rosary and do everything else a Catholic does (helps them begin the practice of doing “Catholic things” and over a fear that maybe they have to wait until Confirmation at the Easter Vigil) except recieve the sacraments. Now get ready for an Initiation that lasts for all Eternity!”
As for why youngsters (2nd grade in our diocese) are able to recieve Communion and Penance prior to being confirmed, it is my understanding that because they are not yet at an age to be accountable (age of reason I think it is called), they can’t personally make the pledge associated with confirmation. However, because they live in a Catholic home and being raised Catholic, they are able to recieve these Sacraments basically via the proxy of their parents confirmation. Once they are old enough to be confirmed, they either must become confirmed or cease to take the sacraments. I hope this is correct. Is their a Priest in the house? lol
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MommaKat
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Paris Blues:
Reconcilation and Communion occur when a child is 7 or 8 years old. They have Confirmation when they are 13 or 14 and are being confirmed into an adult faith. This is how it has been done in the Latin Rite Catholic Church since I believe Pope Pius X.
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rwoehmke
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Actually one who is a Catechumen(an unbaptized person intending to enter the Church) should they die before being baptized receives what is called Baptism of Desire and could be buried from a Catholic Church in a Catholic Cemetary. I believe that technically a Candidate who has made a decision to enter the Church is a Catholic like the younger kids before first confession and first communion. A full Catholic in all ways accept being unable to immediately receive the other sacraments until the proper instruction is received.
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MommaKat
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Makes sense to me.
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jimmy
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Paris Blues:
You are Catholic and you are a catechumen. All children under 14 are Catholic, but most of them have not recieved the sacrament of confirmation. You are Catholic so don’t worry.
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Paris_Blues
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I’m NOT a catechumen, I WAS BAPTIZED already!
Now I just need the Confirmation part (Eucharist, etc.). Why does it take so dang long? I’ve been longing for the Eucharist since January of this year for crying out loud!
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Ignatius
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Paris Blues:
If you were validly baptized and are studying the Faith, then you are a Catholic.I’m NOT a catechumen, I WAS BAPTIZED already!
Now I just need the Confirmation part (Eucharist, etc.). Why does it take so dang long? I’ve been longing for the Eucharist since January of this year for crying out loud!
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St_Benedict
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What about
“Christian preparing for reception into full communion with the Catholic Church”
Bit long winded but ‘Candidate’ makes you sound like a politician…
“Christian preparing for reception into full communion with the Catholic Church”
Bit long winded but ‘Candidate’ makes you sound like a politician…
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Orionthehunter
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I agree w/ Ignatious. You are Catholic. Cross yourself regularly, bathe yourself with Holy Water wehn you enter the Church, and genuflect reverently to your Lord and get out your Rosary and pray it daily this October! (P.S. This is a reference to another post by Paris in another thread. She will get itWhat about
“Christian preparing for reception into full communion with the Catholic Church”
Bit long winded but ‘Candidate’ makes you sound like a politician…
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Lance
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In my parish we would call you a ‘catechumenate’. And yes you are a Catholic.
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Orionthehunter
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Technically, a chatecumenate is a person not yet baptized and a baptized person preparing for confirmation is a candidate.
But the issue here is can Paris call herself Catholic and she certainly may. If there is a reason that Paris has to be more specific, she can give the further clarification that she is not yet in full communion. However, her desire to be Catholic and her baptism requires her to live a Catholic life in all respects except recieving the Eucharist and Penance.
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Lance
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Right, I should have read the whole thread rather than just the last few posts. If she tells someone she is Catholic, 99% of the people will accept it at that and not delve further.
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