What Americans thought of Jewish refugees on the eve of World War II

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Thomas48 said:
It should be noted that ISIS also promotes similar acts of injustice, regularly killing off Eastern Chrisitans and even their own fellow Muslims in the most despicable ways. It is easy for politicians of these countries, while sitting in their comfy chairs and air conditionerd homes to deny these people who have suffered beyond grief. By doing so, the most ancient of Christian Rites is being killed off.
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good point

I also find it interesting the the President of the United States said the other day that, when considering whether to let people into our country, it is “offensive” to consider what their religion is. So I guess saying “We should help those Jews and Christians who are being persecuted by jihadists” is also offensive because it mentions their religion. :hmmm:
 
Zoltan_Cobalt said:
I would call it people waging a just war to reclaim their lands.
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That is an interesting conclusion. It has serious ramifications. For instance American Indians could justly blow up hotels and police stations in the US. Hawaiians could do the same. Or now that the Jews have pushed the Arabs off of their former lands the Arabs could justly blow up hotels.
 
America offered havens for the Vietnamese in 1975. They have become productive Americans. Embracing our way of life and giving thanks to God.
 
acadiANNA said:
America offered havens for the Vietnamese in 1975. They have become productive Americans. Embracing our way of life and giving thanks to God.
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They’ve not just become productive Americans – they’ve become one of the greatest blessings to Christendom!

Interestingly, politicians were opposed to the move then, too. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

And it’s historically been the case that churches take the lead when the government won’t.
 
Not a bizarre road at all.
Being merciful to refugees does not mean that you require (force) people to accept them into your neighborhoods–especially as we don’t know who the refugees are, can’t do complete background checks on them, and have had many of the people from where they are coming from threaten to destroy us and our country.

So, again, if the President is going to force people to accept them into their neighborhoods, why isn’t he willing to accept them into his? Is there “too much of a security concern”?

The Pope, too, has been directly threatened by ISIS. And yet, I think he has shown mercy. Whether the Vatican takes in some refugees remains to be seen. I haven’t heard that he has refused…have you?
 
So if the vast (or overwhelming) majority of Syrians are leaving due to the violence, how many are leaving for other reasons? Your own statement lets us know that there are those, amongst the refugees, who may be leaving for ulterior motives.

And, with over 15 million radicalized, even if the number is small, we need to know who they are.
 
Operalan said:
So if the vast (or overwhelming) majority of Syrians are leaving due to the violence, how many are leaving for other reasons? Your own statement lets us know that there are those, amongst the refugees, who may be leaving for ulterior motives.

And, with over 15 million radicalized, even if the number is small, we need to know who they are.
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You seem to be under the impression that we’re just going to open our borders wide and let anybody in. These families have been vetted in the camps where mothers, fathers, children and elders have been living in squalor for three years. It is known that these people are not radicals - they are displaced and poor.
 
steido01 said:
You seem to be under the impression that we’re just going to open our borders wide and let anybody in. These families have been vetted in the camps where mothers, fathers, children and elders have been living in squalor for three years. It is known that these people are not radicals - they are displaced and poor.
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If being poor is an adequate reason to roll out the red carpet, we should do so for those coming from Mexico and Central America, as well.
 
steido01 said:
You seem to be under the impression that we’re just going to open our borders wide and let anybody in. These families have been vetted in the camps where mothers, fathers, children and elders have been living in squalor for three years. It is known that these people are not radicals - they are displaced and poor.
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What were they vetted against? You have an awfully strong faith that your government has done the right thing when the President’s OWN Director of the FBI says that we should put a brake on things as things haven’t been vetted well enough.
 
steido01 said:
But most come from Indonesia and India. Not Syria. The overwhelming majority of Syrians, regardless of religious affiliation, are fleeing the violence.
You seem to be under the impression that we’re just going to open our borders wide and let anybody in. These families have been vetted in the camps where mothers, fathers, children and elders have been living in squalor for three years. It is known that these people are not radicals - they are displaced and poor.
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The United Nations tells us that over 70% of refugees from Syria are “military age single men”. Even in the news clips showing a Syrian family or two… you can see considerably more healthy looking young men in the background.

My questions are:
  1. Since this is a civil was in Syria…why are these men not fighting for their country?
  2. As far as vetting is concerned… how many are being rejected? Does the vetting process discover terrorist ties?
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GEddie said:
If being poor is an adequate reason to roll out the red carpet, we should do so for those coming from Mexico and Central America, as well.
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If their homes have been destroyed and they are fleeing for their lives from cartels aiming to behead them and their children – yes, suffer those little children come to us also.
 
Zoltan_Cobalt said:
The United Nations tells us that over 70% of refugees from Syria are “military age single men”. Even in the news clips showing a Syrian family or two… you can see considerably more healthy looking young men in the background.

My questions are:
  1. Since this is a civil was in Syria…why are these men not fighting for their country?
  2. As far as vetting is concerned… how many are being rejected? Does the vetting process discover terrorist ties?
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1). If both sides in the conflict are equally bad…why expect them to die for either?
  1. If someone is rejected…what do we do nationally, push them into the Atlantic? The geography almost dictates admitting everybody.
Really, the issue here is whether this country can continue treating refugees the same as all other immigrants. For this conflict that is probably not the case.

ICXC NIKA.
 
Are the Syrians really in a comparable position though? Is there a systematic campaign to destroy an entire race of people? Was there ever the chance that Jewish terrorists would smuggle in with the legitimate refugees?

To be sure there are some similarities, but not with the Muslims seeking to escape Syria and those parts of the middle east controlled by Isis. Namely it is the Christian populations as well as other minorities who do not adhere to Islam that are in the greatest danger, that should be the first to be considered.

it would be reasonable and responsible to take in those groups first before considering taking in a mass of Islamic refugees who should be (if they are to be taken in at all) subject to greater scrutiny.
 
GEddie said:
1). If both sides in the conflict are equally bad…why expect them to die for either?
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If both sides are bad…there would not be any dispute.
  1. If someone is rejected…what do we do nationally, push them into the Atlantic? The geography almost dictates admitting everybody.
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Everybody? Even a hard core islamic jihadist with intentions of recruiting and developing a core of terrorist suicide bombers with intentions of killing as many Americans as possible…???

I think a better question would be what do we do with a refugee who has ties with terrorism???
Really, the issue here is whether this country can continue treating refugees the same as all other immigrants. For this conflict that is probably not the case.
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No.

The issue here is protecting American lives and the security of our nation.
 
gracepoole said:
:ehh:

bustle.com/articles/124960-actual-statistics-on-syrian-refugees-gender-age-prove-that-ben-carson-is-totally-wrong
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Children…just as bad…:mad:

pbs.org/newshour/bb/how-the-islamic-state-indoctrinates-afghan-children/

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was ten-years-old when he was admitted to the US as a refugee. I wonder if he saw any videos. I wonder where he learned jihad. I wonder where he learned terrorist activity. You think his mother might have taught him? Think she might have shown him videos? On was he inspired by ISIS? Was he inspired by Al-Qaeda? Or was he mad that we started Guantanamo or mad that we had photos taken at Abu Ghraib?
 
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