What are all the denominations in Christianity that use the sign of the cross and what do the others have against it?

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I am an Anglican who crosses quite often during prayers such as Compline and also at Holy Eucharist on Sunday mornings. It is an important part of my worship and meditation. Who are all of the folks who cross and what do the ones that don’t cross have against it? Your thoughts please. Thank you:)
 
I was raised catholic so also had the habit. It’s a nice way to start prayer.
Now that I’m LDS, I don’t do it anymore. LDS as you prob know don’t use the cross as a symbol of worship. But LDS always start their prayers with the same words, which sort of reminds me of making the cross to start prayer.
 
Those that don’t use the sign of the cross don’t do so frankly because it is “too Catholic” or that “it isn’t in the Bible.” Well, if I may charitably say so, that actually illustrates a defect in their thinking, because If they are Christian they really shouldn’t have a problem with it. Signing ourselves with the cross is simply a way of reminding ourselves of our baptism, and what Christ did for us, and how we must each take up our own cross daily and follow Him.
 
As a life-long Protestant, I’ve never heard anyone object to the Sign of the Cross per se. Protestants just don’t do it because it’s seen as an identification with catholicism. There’s no biblical objection to it.
 
Members of the Anglican Communion, definitely. Many Lutherans yes, some no. Chuck Colson, who’s sort of a run-of-the-mill evangelical leader argues for its use in his book, Being the Body.
 
The Sign of the Cross originated as an eastern Christian practice, and was borrowed into the Roman Catholic (western) church at a later date.
 
I’m non-Catholic of no particular denomination, and I’ve never done it at church or at home. It just wasn’t something we did. I was probably in 7th or 8th grade before I fully realized why anyone would do it. By that time, though, I’d established a set of expectations for what was necessary in a Christian’s life, and that didn’t seem like something that really needed to be added. But the fact that it’s important to some other people…🤷 I’m sure it would be for me if I’d grown up with it, but I did not. I would be fine either way, but this is how it turned out. If it’s a loss, it’s not a huge one. But I don’t really know that it is. It might just be my personal background, but at this point, I’d kind of rather not do it. In church, anyway. It might just be what I’m used to, but if we wound up adding it as something we all do, it’d be a little weird for me. I’d probably get used to it, but I’m just not seeing the payoff.
 
I’m non-Catholic of no particular denomination, and I’ve never done it at church or at home. It just wasn’t something we did. I was probably in 7th or 8th grade before I fully realized why anyone would do it. By that time, though, I’d established a set of expectations for what was necessary in a Christian’s life, and that didn’t seem like something that really needed to be added. But the fact that it’s important to some other people…🤷 I’m sure it would be for me if I’d grown up with it, but I did not. I would be fine either way, but this is how it turned out. If it’s a loss, it’s not a huge one. But I don’t really know that it is. It might just be my personal background, but at this point, I’d kind of rather not do it. In church, anyway. It might just be what I’m used to, but if we wound up adding it as something we all do, it’d be a little weird for me. I’d probably get used to it, but I’m just not seeing the payoff.
What kind of payoff did you have in mind? Do you think that Catholics see a payoff when they make the Sign of the Cross? I’m not trying to be disrespectful. I’m interested in your opinion.
 
What kind of payoff did you have in mind? Do you think that Catholics see a payoff when they make the Sign of the Cross? I’m not trying to be disrespectful. I’m interested in your opinion.
Well, starting with the earlier tradition, the Eastern sign of the cross allows you to make a hand sign that corresponds to an I, an X, and a C. It gives you a connection to a particular Christian lineage from a particular part of the world. It indicates that this is where you came from, and this is what they’ve given to you.

If you’re in the West, you probably follow a less ancient tradition with five fingers and a side-to-side motion that’s opposite of the more ancient tradition. I could ask why you don’t do the more ancient tradition, but the answer’s pretty obvious: You don’t have a connection to the more ancient Christian lineage from that particular part of the world, that isn’t where you came from, and that isn’t the particular tradition that was given to you.

For many non-Catholics, we feel like our strongest connection to Christianity is in America rather than somewhere in Europe or Asia. Consequently, we don’t have a strong connection to either the more ancient or less ancient traditions that began there. Some of the mainline Protestants that broke more directly from Rome (more or less) took certain traditions with them, but for the Western non-Catholic who didn’t break directly from Rome, we don’t really feel like we’re any more connected to the Western tradition than to the Eastern one, and in any case, it doesn’t seem like anyone intended to pass it on to us.

If we had such a connection or if one of those traditions had been passed on to us, it would make more sense for us to do it. I’m sure there would be more of a payoff, too, since we would regularly recognize our connection to a more or less ancient tradition. But for many of us, we don’t feel like we really have that connection, and if we did this, we’d be misappropriating something that wasn’t given to us in the first place. If we had the connection and if this had been given to us, there would be more of a payoff. But since there is no connection at all for some of us and it hasn’t really been given to us, I think there’s a payoff for you guys but not really any for us.

All of that’s totally fine, you know- I’m not complaining about how any of it is or what anyone’s doing. I think pretty much everyone is doing (or not doing) the things that make the most sense for them, and for people from different parts of the world and different liturgical backgrounds, it’s going to look different from person to person.
 
Well, starting with the earlier tradition, the Eastern sign of the cross allows you to make a hand sign that corresponds to an I, an X, and a C. It gives you a connection to a particular Christian lineage from a particular part of the world. It indicates that this is where you came from, and this is what they’ve given to you.

If you’re in the West, you probably follow a less ancient tradition with five fingers and a side-to-side motion that’s opposite of the more ancient tradition. I could ask why you don’t do the more ancient tradition, but the answer’s pretty obvious: You don’t have a connection to the more ancient Christian lineage from that particular part of the world, that isn’t where you came from, and that isn’t the particular tradition that was given to you.

For many non-Catholics, we feel like our strongest connection to Christianity is in America rather than somewhere in Europe or Asia. Consequently, we don’t have a strong connection to either the more ancient or less ancient traditions that began there. Some of the mainline Protestants that broke more directly from Rome (more or less) took certain traditions with them, but for the Western non-Catholic who didn’t break directly from Rome, we don’t really feel like we’re any more connected to the Western tradition than to the Eastern one, and in any case, it doesn’t seem like anyone intended to pass it on to us.

If we had such a connection or if one of those traditions had been passed on to us, it would make more sense for us to do it. I’m sure there would be more of a payoff, too, since we would regularly recognize our connection to a more or less ancient tradition. But for many of us, we don’t feel like we really have that connection, and if we did this, we’d be misappropriating something that wasn’t given to us in the first place. If we had the connection and if this had been given to us, there would be more of a payoff. But since there is no connection at all for some of us and it hasn’t really been given to us, I think there’s a payoff for you guys but not really any for us.

All of that’s totally fine, you know- I’m not complaining about how any of it is or what anyone’s doing. I think pretty much everyone is doing (or not doing) the things that make the most sense for them, and for people from different parts of the world and different liturgical backgrounds, it’s going to look different from person to person.
Please forgive me. I have trouble sometimes in understanding language (brain damage). I want to read your post several times so that I can do a better job in understanding it. I’m not doing so well at that right now.

What about the sign that is made during Mass? I don’t know if it even has a name. A cross is made on the forehead with the thumb, then on the lips, then on the heart. Blessed be my thoughts, blessed be my words, blessed be my heart.

I actually prefer this sign to the Sign of the Cross. It encompasses the whole essence of “me”, is a prayer, and also is a sign of respect to God, along with really being three Signs of the Cross.

That’s my opinion only. I love that sign. It makes me feel so much closer to God.

I’ll read your post again in the morning. Thank you for going to the trouble of explaining it. It sounds kind of complicated, but that’s probably just my brain shutting down or something.
 
I think most who don’t do it, feel it is something that is done by Catholics so they avoid it. Others don’t do in public (outside of Church excluded) because they feel a bit embarrassed (this includes Catholics…Im still struggling with it so I’m not off the hook on this part :o). But Isn’t it easier not to do it in that respect? 😦

I have no problem doing it private at home or in Church.

Overall, I do think it’s very important and should be done because as Christians we believe in the 3 persons of God.

MJ
 
The Sign of the Cross originated as an eastern Christian practice, and was borrowed into the Roman Catholic (western) church at a later date.
As usual from you.always have some sort of negative view or objection about the RCC. The Orthodox always get all the credit. Do ya think your prejudice could be anymore louder?
 
Source, please, Michael? This sounds pretty partisan, for lack of a better term. I can’t imagine the Roman Church borrowing the sign of the Cross from the East :confused:
The Sign of the Cross originated as an eastern Christian practice, and was borrowed into the Roman Catholic (western) church at a later date.
 
As usual from you.always have some sort of negative view or objection about the RCC. The Orthodox always get all the credit. Do ya think your prejudice could be anymore louder?
I see it’s not just me, then.
 
I am Jewish and our religion uses the Star Of David, the reason that we don’t use the cross is that our religion goes far before Jesus was was born. We also don’t believe that Jesus is the son of God. So in our religion there is nothing about Jesus. We have nothing against it we just don’t believe that Jesus is Christ.
 
Isn’t that a no-brainer? The thread says “What are all the DENOMINATIONS IN CHRISTIANITY…” NOT Judaism? 🤷
I am Jewish and our religion uses the Star Of David, the reason that we don’t use the cross is that our religion goes far before Jesus was was born. We also don’t believe that Jesus is the son of God. So in our religion there is nothing about Jesus. We have nothing against it we just don’t believe that Jesus is Christ.
 
I am Jewish and our religion uses the Star Of David, the reason that we don’t use the cross is that our religion goes far before Jesus was was born. We also don’t believe that Jesus is the son of God. So in our religion there is nothing about Jesus. We have nothing against it we just don’t believe that Jesus is Christ.
We’re talking about this :signofcross:

🙂

MJ
 
Hesychios;7356163:
The Sign of the Cross originated as an eastern Christian practice, and was borrowed into the Roman Catholic (western) church at a later date.
As usual from you.always have some sort of negative view or objection about the RCC. The Orthodox always get all the credit. Do ya think your prejudice could be anymore louder?
In the RC Mass’es that I’ve been to you cross yourself maybe 2 or 3 times. In the OC DL’s you cross yourself about 33 times. Has anyone heard of anywhere in the West using such phrases (common to the East) as “the glorious Life creating Cross of our Lord”! Does anyone in the West kiss their cross and say a prayer such as “… let the demons parish from those who love God and cross themselves with the sign of the cross and say in gladness, Hail most precious Cross of our Lord, for thou drivest away the demons by the power of the Lord Jesus Christ crucified on thee…”? - I don’t know the history of the use of the sign of the cross, but it sure stands to reason that the primary epicenter of it’s use and origin was likely in the East (where, of course, Christianity itself actually began).
 
Well, starting with the earlier tradition, the Eastern sign of the cross allows you to make a hand sign that corresponds to an I, an X, and a C. It gives you a connection to a particular Christian lineage from a particular part of the world. It indicates that this is where you came from, and this is what they’ve given to you.

If you’re in the West, you probably follow a less ancient tradition with five fingers and a side-to-side motion that’s opposite of the more ancient tradition. I could ask why you don’t do the more ancient tradition, but the answer’s pretty obvious: You don’t have a connection to the more ancient Christian lineage from that particular part of the world, that isn’t where you came from, and that isn’t the particular tradition that was given to you.
Be careful of generalizing too much about a practice that you yourself admit that you do not do. What you have said about the hand positions in the “Eastern sign of the Cross” is a bit misleading, insofar as that is not an exclusively Eastern practice. Where it does exist in the West it is most definitely borrowed from the East (as is pretty much everything recognizably Christian; the liturgy of the West was recited in Greek until roughly the fourth century), but this in no way cheapens the connection to these practices. It is merely a fact of history that they were adopted later. I do not think it is wise to make some sort of value judgment out of that.

Regarding the form of the action, it may interest you to know if you are not already aware that the Byzantine practice that you are referencing is not at all the default “Eastern way” of doing it, nor does its presence among the Chalcedonian Easterners indicate it being the older tradition. Oriental Orthodox Christians (Copts, Ethiopians, etc.) cross themselves left to right, and will insist that this is the more ancient and proper way of doing it. I personally don’t care which is older. I do quite like the explanation I once heard for the left-to-right cross (something about God, through the Cross, moving us from His left side, where we were among the wicked, to His right, among the righteous), but that is neither here nor there. The point is that to say one is “wrong” and another is “right” is a little silly. They’re different, but I don’t think any but the most staunch Church partisan among us would condemn another for doing it in a way that is appropriate according to their tradition.

On this account, the EO are right when they say that the Romans are doing it “wrong” now, because the Romans also did it right-to-left originally! I learned that from a video I once saw on the Eastern Catholic churches, produced by the Eparchy of Parma (Ukrainian Catholic). My old confessor, a Dominican (who used the “Eastern” hand positions you insist are not used in the West), confirmed this for me, and better yet insisted that if there were some overriding reason that I should have to cross myself in the Byzantine way, that I would be allowed so long as I remained Catholic in my devotions. I had started out in the RC church crossing myself right to left without any knowledge or worry that this was irregular among Latins, as this is what felt/feels most natural since I am left handed, but oddly the RCIA director saw fit to pull me aside and gently reprimand me for doing it the “Orthodox way” (her words). I should’ve taken that as a sign, I suppose…! 😊
 
I am Jewish and our religion uses the Star Of David, the reason that we don’t use the cross is that our religion goes far before Jesus was was born. We also don’t believe that Jesus is the son of God. So in our religion there is nothing about Jesus. We have nothing against it we just don’t believe that Jesus is Christ.
I noticed that you have one post. I just want to welcome you to CAF. I’m sorry that you posted what you did; as others have pointed out the topic specifically refers to Christianity.

But I still want to welcome you and I hope you post a lot.

God bless!!
 
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