What are Catholic sources for the literal Adam?

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Adam is not only real, but also really intriguing because of all the personal, individual opinions
on CAF.

Beyond the opening of Genesis, what are the Catholic sources for a real, living human being as the founder of the human race?
How often does Adam appear in Scripture, including the New Testament?
What do the Church Fathers say? What about the Church Councils? And current Popes?

I have found some interesting paragraphs in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition, regarding Adam and Eve in the section titled *IV. Man in Paradise. *What are people’s thoughts regarding this and surrounding paragraphs? Are there more references to Adam in the rest of the Catechism? Where do the Catechism’s footnotes lead?

Link to Catechism: www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

Blessings,
granny

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Adam is not only real, but also really intriguing because of all the personal, individual opinions
on CAF.

Beyond the opening of Genesis, what are the Catholic sources for a real, living human being as the founder of the human race?
How often does Adam appear in Scripture, including the New Testament?
What do the Church Fathers say? What about the Church Councils? And current Popes?

I have found some interesting paragraphs in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition, regarding Adam and Eve in the section titled *IV. Man in Paradise. *What are people’s thoughts regarding this and surrounding paragraphs? Are there more references to Adam in the rest of the Catechism? Where do the Catechism’s footnotes lead?

Link to Catechism: www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

Blessings,
granny

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To answer your questions, the quickest way to find this out is to follow the links you provided.

For example, your link to the CCC has an index that gives you all of the mentions of Adam in certain respects. In each section of the CCC that is linked there are sources that include Bible verses, Church Councils, and general quotes from theologians. In these Church Council references, there are Church father references.

You can also read this article which quotes Humani Generis which if you look into this document will provide even more scripture and Church Fathers.

You can find the source documents to CCC references on the Vatican’s website. For example, Humani Generis can be found here.

These should provide all of the answers you need. To link them all independently would require a multitude of threads and would take the enjoyment of discovery away from you. Once you find all of these resources, you will be able to go them again and again for all of your questions.

God Bless.
 
To answer your questions, the quickest way to find this out is to follow the links you provided.

For example, your link to the CCC has an index that gives you all of the mentions of Adam in certain respects. In each section of the CCC that is linked there are sources that include Bible verses, Church Councils, and general quotes from theologians. In these Church Council references, there are Church father references.

You can also read this article which quotes Humani Generis which if you look into this document will provide even more scripture and Church Fathers.

You can find the source documents to CCC references on the Vatican’s website. For example, Humani Generis can be found here.

These should provide all of the answers you need. To link them all independently would require a multitude of threads and would take the enjoyment of discovery away from you. Once you find all of these resources, you will be able to go them again and again for all of your questions.

God Bless.
Thank you. But you are putting me in some isolated box as if I didn’t belong to a community of believers.

As I posted, “Adam is not only real, but also really intriguing because of all the personal, individual opinions on CAF.” I specifically asked “What are people’s thoughts regarding this and surrounding paragraphs?” I was hoping to learn from others what was important to them and why regarding their favorite resources. Maybe these paragraphs could be used for meditation???

Maybe some writing of the past should be brought forward to the present – but how would I know that unless someone smarter than me shared their wisdom?

Blessings,
granny

Truth exists in both the material and spiritual realms.
 
How often does Adam appear in Scripture, including the New Testament?
Beside Genesis 1-5 these are the verses with ‘Adam’. Joshus 3:16 just a city with his name.

OT
Deuteronomy 32:8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.

Joshua 3:16 That the waters which came down from above stood and rose up upon an heap very far from the city Adam, that is beside Zaretan: and those that came down toward the sea of the plain, even the salt sea, failed, and were cut off: and the people passed over right against Jericho.

1 Chronicles 1:1 Adam, Sheth, Enosh,

Job 31:33 If I covered my transgressions as Adam, by hiding mine iniquity in my bosom:
NT
Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from **Adam **to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of **Adam’s **transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in **Adam **all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man **Adam **was made a living soul; the last **Adam **was made a quickening spirit.

1 Timothy 2:13 For **Adam **was first formed, then Eve.14 And **Adam **was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
 
I’m pretty sure Catholic belief says that real people, Adam and Eve, did live at some point of history and ruin it for everyone. It was a long time ago, and the story was passed down through oral traditions probably for hundreds of thousands of years before anyone wrote it down. That’s really all we have.

The story in Genesis is, aside from probably my favorite part of the Bible because it’s so incredibly rich (read JPII’s Theology of the Body and it’ll blow your mind), the attempt of someone who lived thousands of years ago to teach a moral message. It may or may not have involved a real apple, or snake, or whatever- the most important part to take away is that its truth isn’t dependent on being a historical narrative or not its the meaning behind the story.
 
That is simply not what the Church teaches or what is declared in the Bible. Adam was literally real, he sinned, and Jesus was needed to suffer, die and rise again for Original Sin. The linkage is very important.

Peace,
Ed
 
Adam was literally real, he sinned, and Jesus was needed to suffer, die and rise again for Original Sin. The linkage is very important.
This connection between an historical person named Adam, the first man, and original sin, and the need for justification through Christ, is taught infallibly by the Council of Trent. Whoever believes that Adam did not exist as a real human person at the origins of humanity, or that we are not all his descendents, or that we have not inherited original sin due to his fall from grace, commits the sin of heresy against several of the Canons of Trent.
  1. If any one does not confess that the first man, Adam, when he had transgressed the commandment of God in Paradise, immediately lost the holiness and justice wherein he had been constituted; and that he incurred, through the offence of that prevarication, the wrath and indignation of God, and consequently death, with which God had previously threatened him, and, together with death, captivity under his power who thenceforth had the empire of death, that is to say, the devil, and that the entire Adam, through that offence of prevarication, was changed, in body and soul, for the worse; let him be anathema.
  2. If any one asserts, that the prevarication of Adam injured himself alone, and not his posterity; and that the holiness and justice, received of God, which he lost, he lost for himself alone, and not for us also; or that he, being defiled by the sin of disobedience, has only transfused death, and pains of the body, into the whole human race, but not sin also, which is the death of the soul; let him be anathema:–whereas he contradicts the apostle who says; By one man sin entered into the world, and by sin death, and so death passed upon all men, in whom all have sinned.
  3. If any one asserts, that this sin of Adam,–which in its origin is one, and being transfused into all by propogation, not by imitation, is in each one as his own, --is taken away either by the powers of human nature, or by any other remedy than the merit of the one mediator, our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath reconciled us to God in his own blood, made unto us justice, santification, and redemption; or if he denies that the said merit of Jesus Christ is applied, both to adults and to infants, by the sacrament of baptism rightly administered in the form of the church; let him be anathema: For there is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved. Whence that voice; Behold the lamb of God behold him who taketh away the sins of the world; and that other; As many as have been baptized, have put on Christ.
  4. If any one denies, that infants, newly born from their mothers’ wombs, even though they be sprung from baptized parents, are to be baptized; or says that they are baptized indeed for the remission of sins, but that they derive nothing of original sin from Adam, which has need of being expiated by the laver of regeneration for the obtaining life everlasting,–whence it follows as a consequence, that in them the form of baptism, for the remission of sins, is understood to be not true, but false, --let him be anathema.
 
I’m pretty sure Catholic belief says that real people, Adam and Eve, did live at some point of history and ruin it for everyone. It was a long time ago, and the story was passed down through oral traditions probably for hundreds of thousands of years before anyone wrote it down. That’s really all we have.

The story in Genesis is, aside from probably my favorite part of the Bible because it’s so incredibly rich (read JPII’s Theology of the Body and it’ll blow your mind), the attempt of someone who lived thousands of years ago to teach a moral message. It may or may not have involved a real apple, or snake, or whatever- the most important part to take away is that its truth isn’t dependent on being a historical narrative or not its the meaning behind the story.
no not hundreds of thousands of years ago according to the same book - appx 4000 years before and appx 2000 years after - twinc
 
no not hundreds of thousands of years ago according to the same book - appx 4000 years before and appx 2000 years after - twinc
It truly surprises me how people can debate the literal this and the
non-literal that and yet seem to miss the true, real, essential significance of the Catholic doctrine that there are two sole parents of the human species (monogenism).

Thank you to those who have already provided Catholic sources.

Now my question is –

Are there any current books by authors who actually accept and write about the literal Adam and Eve?

Blessings,
granny

Adam and Eve are real people by the grace of God.
 
Reading through this thread started me thinking…

All throughout the Christian tradition is the notion that Jesus is the new Adam, and that Mary is the new Eve. Of course this is rich with symbolism and is meant to give us a deeper understanding of who Jesus and Mary are. But does a new Adam and a new Eve who are real historical figures also imply that the “old” Adam and Eve must also be historical figures, albeit whose time and place in history is much less definite…
 
. But does a new Adam and a new Eve who are real historical figures also imply that the “old” Adam and Eve must also be historical figures, albeit whose time and place in history is much less definite…
Absolutely.

The original Adam and Eve are real historical people. They are the two sole parents of the human species. What is known about them and their actions is far more important historically than the exact date when they were created in the friendship of God.

The official Catholic teaching regarding Adam and Eve is found in the
Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition, ISBN: 1-57455-109-4
Paragraphs 355-421.

One can also put Adam, etc. in the Catechism’s search bar in link www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

Blessings,
granny

Adam and Eve are real by the grace of God.

These two websites contain TV ads about Catholicism. The first is from one of the Dioceses which is using them. The second is general information.
 
Absolutely.

The original Adam and Eve are real historical people. They are the two sole parents of the human species. What is known about them and their actions is far more important historically than the exact date when they were created in the friendship of God.

The official Catholic teaching regarding Adam and Eve is found in the
Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition, ISBN: 1-57455-109-4
Paragraphs 355-421.

One can also put Adam, etc. in the Catechism’s search bar in link www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

Blessings,
granny

Adam and Eve are real by the grace of God.

These two websites contain TV ads about Catholicism. The first is from one of the Dioceses which is using them. The second is general information.
Catholics are free to believe Adam and Eve were historical people or not.
 
Catholics are free to believe Adam and Eve were historical people or not.
Pardon me. Please explain that.

Catholic doctrine is that there were two historical people who are the sole parents of the human species – to which we belong. Could it be that you want to call them Jane and John Doe?

Blessings,
granny

Human beings are worthy of profound respect from the moment of conception.
 
Catholics are free to believe Adam and Eve were historical people or not.
You are wrong.

From Humani Generis:
  1. When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains either that after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents. Now it is in no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Teaching Authority of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which through generation is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own.
 
You are wrong.

From Humani Generis:
  1. When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains either that after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents. Now it is in no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Teaching Authority of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which through generation is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own.
I agree polygenism is wrong. So?
 
Pardon me. Please explain that.

Catholic doctrine is that there were two historical people who are the sole parents of the human species – to which we belong. Could it be that you want to call them Jane and John Doe?

Blessings,
granny

Human beings are worthy of profound respect from the moment of conception.
God created humans. No matter what their names were.
 
I agree polygenism is wrong. So?
That leaves monogenism – two real sole parents of the human species. There was a serious sin committed by an individual Adam and which through generation is passed on to all… according to Humani Generis, #37. Add to this the strong Catechism statements regarding the real person known as Adam. Then read St. Paul’s references to Adam.

All this points to the fact that Catholics are required to believe that Adam and Eve are real, historical, literal, flesh and blood, human beings no matter what their names really were. In other words, the names can be figurative, but the actual people existed.

Blessings,
granny

All human beings are worthy of profound respect.
 
That leaves monogenism – two real sole parents of the human species. There was a serious sin committed by an individual Adam and which through generation is passed on to all… according to Humani Generis, #37. Add to this the strong Catechism statements regarding the real person known as Adam. Then read St. Paul’s references to Adam.

All this points to the fact that Catholics are required to believe that Adam and Eve are real, historical, literal, flesh and blood, human beings no matter what their names really were. In other words, the names can be figurative, but the actual people existed.

Blessings,
granny

All human beings are worthy of profound respect.
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It is a heresy condemned by the Council of Trent to deny that Adam and Eve existed, to deny that we are all their biological descendents, and to deny that we contract original sin by being their literal descendents.

1. If any one does not confess that the first man, Adam, when he had transgressed the commandment of God in Paradise, immediately lost the holiness and justice wherein he had been constituted; and that he incurred, through the offence of that prevarication, the wrath and indignation of God, and consequently death, with which God had previously threatened him, and, together with death, captivity under his power who thenceforth had the empire of death, that is to say, the devil, and that the entire Adam, through that offence of prevarication, was changed, in body and soul, for the worse; let him be anathema.

Whoever obstinately denies or obstinately doubts that Adam existed is rejecting the infallible teaching that Adam, as the first man, transgressed the commandment of God and thereby fell from grace.

2. If any one asserts, that the prevarication of Adam injured himself alone, and not his posterity; and that the holiness and justice, received of God, which he lost, he lost for himself alone, and not for us also; or that he, being defiled by the sin of disobedience, has only transfused death, and pains of the body, into the whole human race, but not sin also, which is the death of the soul; let him be anathema:–whereas he contradicts the apostle who says; By one man sin entered into the world, and by sin death, and so death passed upon all men, in whom all have sinned.

Whowever obstinately denies or obstinately doubts that Adam existed is rejecting the infallible teaching that Adam injured both himself and his posterity by his fall from grace, and that death and the other effects of original sin were tranfused into the whole human race as a result of his fall.

3. If any one asserts, that this sin of Adam,–which in its origin is one, and being transfused into all by propogation, not by imitation, is in each one as his own, --is taken away either by the powers of human nature, or by any other remedy than the merit of the one mediator, our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath reconciled us to God in his own blood, made unto us justice, santification, and redemption; or if he denies that the said merit of Jesus Christ is applied, both to adults and to infants, by the sacrament of baptism rightly administered in the form of the church; let him be anathema: For there is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved. Whence that voice; Behold the lamb of God behold him who taketh away the sins of the world; and that other; As many as have been baptized, have put on Christ.

Whowever obstinately denies or obstinately doubts that Adam existed is rejecting the infallible teaching that we need Baptism, merited for us by Christ, in order to be reconciled to God, because of the sin of Adam.

4. If any one denies, that infants, newly born from their mothers’ wombs, even though they be sprung from baptized parents, are to be baptized; or says that they are baptized indeed for the remission of sins, but that they derive nothing of original sin from Adam, which has need of being expiated by the laver of regeneration for the obtaining life everlasting,–whence it follows as a consequence, that in them the form of baptism, for the remission of sins, is understood to be not true, but false, --let him be anathema.

Whowever obstinately denies or obstinately doubts that Adam existed is rejecting the infallible teaching that human persons must be baptized because they are affected by the original sin of Adam, and that Baptism takes away original sin.

If there was no Adam, then:
there would be no original sin
we would not be in a fallen state
we would need Baptism
we would not need to be reconciled to God by Christ
the Immaculate Conception, which preserved Mary from original sin, would be meaningless, null, and void

Whoever denies Adam, denies original sin, Baptism, the Immaculate Conception, and the need for salvation by Christ.
 
It is a heresy condemned by the Council of Trent to deny that Adam and Eve existed, to deny that we are all their biological descendents, and to deny that we contract original sin by being their literal descendents.
May I have the web address to Council of Trent documents in your post 19.
Thank you.
 
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