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Gaurdian
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What are Pope Benedict’s Views on Sexual Orientation Disorder & Disease(SODD)? What does he say and where are his speeches or writing on homosexuality?
What are Pope Benedict's Views on Sexual Orientation Disorder & Disease(SODD)/Homosexuality?
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thistle
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I don’t think your question is genuine considering the SODD part!!
The Catholic Church’s teachings on homsexuality are well known and can be found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Chastity and Homosexuality
CCC 2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on **Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” **They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
CCC 2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
CCC 2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
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Exalt
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… “Sexual Orientation Disorder and Disease”?
Wow talk about winning hearts and minds…
Or not.
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Gaurdian
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I am not understanding what are you guys saying, Sexual Orientation Disorder Disease, is what, it is.
That is good info from the CCC, but also wanted to understand the Pope’s teachings as well. Do you guys know of any speeches or writings?
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Exalt
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You know, it is pretty clever. I like the part about how the acronym looks like “SODD” sort of like “Sodom” - as in Sodom and Gamorrah. That’s pretty cool, as if giving it a title like that makes it seem as if it’s really a psychological disorder. Kind of like “Intelligent Design” is a cool way to make creationism sound scientific. Or kind of like “Holocaust Revisionism” is a euphamistic way of saying “Holocaust denial.”
They’re all bunk and based on rediculous notions. And the first and last, in particular, fuel thier fare share of prejudice and destruction in the world.
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Dale_M
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Gaurdian, did you create the term “Sexual Orientation Disorder & Disease(SODD)” or did you encounter it in your readings somewhere? 
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thistle
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The Pope is the leader of the Church. On matters of faith and morals the Church’s teachings and the Pope’s do not differ. The Holy Spirit sees to that.
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fin
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what’s wrong with the sodd acronym? is the real terminology different? I thought the CCC said homosexual acts are disordered? what’s the complaint about?
what’s the complaint about?
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Dale_M
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I can only relate what I have read here at CAF, but my impression is that many persons with SSA (Same Sex Attraction), and who accept Church teaching, are uncomfortable with the term “disordered.” They find it insulting and judgemental…as if they were mentally ill. I’ve read several posts lamenting that a better word couldn’t be found.what’s wrong with the sodd acronym? is the real terminology different? I thought the CCC said homosexual acts are disordered?
Yes, homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered”. The difference is that acts and not persons are being singled out. Homosexual acts are condemned, not the persons with homosexuality.
The objection of many here to the SODD term is that it is crude and hurtful. It calls homosexuality a disease (again, that mental illness accusation) and it also slaps homosexuals in the face by calling them disordered. SODD is not a term which will attract persons with SSA and I believe this is a group to which the Church needs to better reach out.
If there are any benefits to the SODD term, I would be willing to discuss them in relation to its harms.
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Gaurdian
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Dale, Thanks for your comments. The term Sexual Orientation Disorder Disease(SODD) is very common and well accepted term and not meant to offensive. It is like Multiple Scaroses or Spinal Meningitis, etc. Their is no profanity in the title or lewd sexual context. If some want to say SSA intsted of SODD that is fine with me they have the exact same meaning.
I do not find this term any more unlikable then the term Heterosexual and if I wanted to call myself OSA (Opposite Sexual Attraction) I could do that too. It is part of responsible and free speech.
As for the Church reaching out to those with SODD, I believe we see this every single day, as it is documented above in the CCC quotes. The Catholic Church NEVER turns away any sinner, which is all of us, that is of good will and desires to be an awakened Christian. I see Catholics everywhere helping others try and remove the scales from the eyes of the current secularized and relative world around us.
SODD, is what, it is.
Lastly it may be more productive to start a new thread on this topic if it is of interest to you and the others, all I was trying to do is find out what the Pope has about SODD, recently. It looks like others are not aware of his recent writing either.
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rlg94086
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I think you need to look up “common” and “well accepted.” I had never heard the term Sexual Orientation Disorder Disease (SODD) until your post, so I did a google on it. Your post is the only thing that comes up. If it is “common,” it should be easy to find. It it is “well accepted,” everyone would be using that term.
The word “disease” in particular, is not generally associated at all with the nature of homosexuality. There are some who believe it is a psychological disorder or anomaly, there are some who believe it may be a genetic or other biological disorder or anomaly, but disease? Uh…no. Are you afraid of catching it?
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ora_pro_nobis
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I think we’re having our legs pulled!
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rlg94086
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bones_IV
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There is no gay gene. If there was we’d have already found it.
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Gaurdian
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Correct their is no gay gene, nor is their any way to transport SODD attributes from one generation to the next.
So Bones, do you recall any of the Popes statements on homosexuality from this year or last year?
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fin
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Dale, thank you for the explanation. I don’t find the term SODD offensive for people with SSA, just as the next poster had said, I could call myself a person who has opposite sex attraction. I think that people should see if there is any reason to be offended at all.
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bones_IV
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One time he referred to same-sex unions as pseudo unions.
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wifeandmomoftwo
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worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53563
“At this point, I cannot fail to mention my concern over ‘de facto’ couples,” he said. “When new legislation is created that relativizes marriage, the rejection of the definitive bond gains, so to speak, juridical endorsement. Relativizing the difference between the sexes … tacitly confirms those bleak theories which seek to remove all relevance from a human being’s masculinity or femininity, as if this were a purely biological matter.”
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wifeandmomoftwo
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if you do a GOOGLE search I am sure you can find some things
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estesbob
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I googled Sexual Orientation Disorder Disease and the only reference it came up with was your post in CAF. I also googled SODD and the only reference I came up with was your post in Catholic forums.
As far as what the Pope Benedict teachings on homosexuality are there the exact same as a church teaching on it has been for the last 2000 years- if they weren’t he wouldn’t be Pope- It is not necessary for each Pope to once again reiterate the nature of every sin it is possible for man to commit
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