What are some of the main differences between the Novus Ordo and Eastern Catholic Divine Litrugies?

[saint_wannabe_1]

I honestly don’t understand the intent of these threads. They are topically asking for information about a Divine Liturgy or what have you and they are substantially just Latins (1) defending the novus ordo and (2) other Latins telling them how “pretty” the liturgy is.

The implicit base of these questions also present some kind of attending a liturgy out of liturgical novelty, putting the fact that you’re praying with the Church for mercy and receiving our Lord as a second priority.

My absolute first priority is to pray with the Church. I can’t receive our Lord because I’m not baptized. I only asked this question because I’ve heard many people mentioning how there are different Mass services to worship God. I often hear people say how beautiful the Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgies, so I wanted to know what to expect before attending one for the first time.

 

[malphono]

Sorry, I did not know that. I just assumed it was called “Novus Ordo” because that’s what other Catholics have told me.

Some people take offense at the term, which is their prerogative, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is very often is called the Novus Ordo, even by some of the priests who say it. The older form of the Roman Rite is variously called Vetus Ordo, Usus Antiquior, TLM or Traditional Latin Mass, (sometimes shortened to “Latin Mass”), Tridentine Rite, Extraordinary Form (often abbreviated “EF”), etc. Personally I prefer the first two (primarily the second one), but I don’t get bent out of shape if someone uses one of the others.

My absolute first priority is to pray with the Church. I can’t receive our Lord because I’m not baptized. I only asked this question because I’ve heard many people mentioning how there are different Mass services to worship God. I often hear people say how beautiful the Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgies, so I wanted to know what to expect before attending one for the first time.

It’s fine, really, but for a more sensory experience, you might want to look around YouTube for some videos. There are quite a few videos posted representing a variety of Eastern and Oriental liturgical practices. If you do that and have questions, by all means, post them here. Our members are a helpful bunch and will undoubtedly be happy to try to answer them.

 

[theistgal]

My absolute first priority is to pray with the Church. I can’t receive our Lord because I’m not baptized. I only asked this question because I’ve heard many people mentioning how there are different Mass services to worship God. I often hear people say how beautiful the Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgies, so I wanted to know what to expect before attending one for the first time.

Yes, and both the Eastern and Western Catholic Liturgies, when done properly, are wonderful places to pray with the Church.

What you will notice in an Eastern Church first of all is a lot of sensual delights! By which I mean, lots of icons, candles, incense, bells, etc. - some more than others but one of the things that took my breath away when I entered an Eastern Catholic Church for the first time was the absolute FLOOR TO CEILING display of icons! Like this:

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You’ll also HEAR a lot of great music. Most Eastern Churches use some form of the Byzantine Chant and the Liturgy will mostly be sung and/or chanted. (Hopefully you’ll get a cantor who can stay on key! ) Here’s a wonderful example of chant from St Nicholas Byzantine Catholic, Barberton.

The main difference that I note, as a Byzantine Catholic, when I go to a Western Mass is that the Latin Rite Liturgy has more silences in it. That can really be nice sometimes because it gives you a quiet moment to reflect on what you’re hearing or offer your own prayers.

So both Rites have their strengths, and if you are interested in seeing what an Eastern liturgy is like my best advice would be, just go and see!

 

[Aramis]

Yeah, “Divine Liturgy” is a Byzantine thing. The others have other names: Kidasse (Ethiopian/Eritrean), Badrak (Armenian), Qurbana/Qurbono (Syriac churches).

It’s the singularly accepted term throughout the Byzantine world.

It’s also used at times by the Coptic Orthodox.

The generic term used in the CIC and CCEO is “Divine Worship Service.”

Quorbono and Qurbana are the syriac terms.

Badarak is Armenian.

 

[dzheremi]

Um…yep. That’s what my post says, more or less. I don’t understand why you quoted my post and then repeated most of the same information in it in your reply.

As for the term “Divine Liturgy” being used in the COC, I have seen it maybe 3 times outside of discussions among non-COC on the internet, on preparatory translations of the liturgies done by a church somewhere in California. I don’t know if they changed that in the printed versions. We don’t get hung up on such things, though technically it doesn’t follow our traditional usage even in English, where it’s just “The [Coptic] Liturgy of So and So” (St. Basil, St. Cyril, St. Gregory; on my nightstand I have a copy of the first English translated edition drafted by a committee of priests and professors headed by HH Pope Shenouda III at St. Bishoy monastery in Scetis, 1992, and the title given on the dust jacket is “The Coptic Liturgy (St. Basil)”; I don’t know if they made other ones for St. Cyril and St. Gregory…I doubt it). In the Coptic, it is “the Anaphora of St. So and So”.

Meh.

 

[bben15]

“Novus Ordo” was NEVER the name of the Mass of Saint Paul VI. It was an accurate adjective back when when the Pauline Mass was actually introduced. It is not today. The analogy would be an advertisement of NEW FORDS for 1970 back in 1970. Such an advertisement made sense in 1970. Not so much today and it in no way changed the name of the Ford Motor Company.

Pope Benedict XVI coined the terms “Ordinary Form of the Mass” and “Extraordinary Form of the Mass” specifically to avoid this sort of division. When I hear “novus ordo” – particularly here it’s clear the person is being negative.

Note that Pope Paul VI is not a saint. He currently holds the title of Venerable.