What are some things that could make a Mass or Eucharist invalid?

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mnealon1 said:
One of the reasons that I know of which makes the Eucharist invalid is the separation of Bread and Wine. The Bread is held up in one Chalice and the Wine in another. This is to comply with the forming of the Eucharist by Jesus at the Last Supper, when he broke bread first and Said Take his and eat it, this is my Body which will be given up for you. He took the Cup and said Take this all of you and drink fromf it. this is the cup of my Blood ect. In so doing he was giving up Body and Blood separtely.
In Mass therefore there must be separation before the priest calls on the Holy Spirit to turn the Bread and Wine into the Body of Christ. The Bread and Wine are then minled together and the Priest drinks from the Chalice
To do otherwise is invalid
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Sorry? This sounds contradictory. And what do you mean by “separation of Bread and Wine”?
 
Probably did not explain what I meant very well - sorry:)
The practice of a "separate "offering of bread and wine is a long standing liturgical tradition which is found in one form or another in all ancient manuscripts of the Roman Rite.
At the preparation of the gifts the bread and wine are brought to the altar, the same elements that Christ took into his hands at the Last Supper. Separate prayers are said over the Bread and Wine, “This is my Body ect”, and with the Wine “THhs is my Blood” ect.
The Priest holds out his hands over the gifts i.e. eliclesis - and calls upon the Holy Spirit to change the Bread and Wine into Christs’ Body and blood.
The Priest then first holds up the conecrated Bread and then the Chalice of concrated Wine, for all the people to see, and usually a bell is rung to announce Our Lords Real Presence.
This is what I meant by separation 🙂
 
Thank you Spirithound. I listened to a Priest explain this required practice within the Roman rite and that was his conclusion. However as I am on a learning curve I would like to hear your opinion, as I am always open to opinions and like to hear them 🙂
God Bless
 
mnealon1 said:
Thank you Spirithound. I listened to a Priest explain this required practice within the Roman rite and that was his conclusion. However as I am on a learning curve I would like to hear your opinion, as I am always open to opinions and like to hear them 🙂
God Bless
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Well, “invalid” is a bad thing, so a required practice would never make the Sacrament invalid.
Following the rubrics is most definitely required, but as long as the Words of Institution are spoken, (or the Anaphora of Addai and Mari is being celebrated), then the Eucharist is valid, but if the priest skips or changes any of the other words, it’s illicit.
 
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Well, “invalid” is a bad thing, so a required practice would never make the Sacrament invalid.
Following the rubrics is most definitely required, but as long as the Words of Institution are spoken, (or the Anaphora of Addai and Mari is being celebrated), then the Eucharist is valid, but if the priest skips or changes any of the other words, it’s illicit.
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