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And IMO, sabaoth, too.The sounds of “hosanna” and “amen” and “alleluia” would be difficult to discard in any language.![]()
And IMO, sabaoth, too.The sounds of “hosanna” and “amen” and “alleluia” would be difficult to discard in any language.![]()
Maybe in the next retranslation?And IMO, sabaoth, too.
How can they not know? Hebrew’s not exactly a lost language. Or is it more that there is no one-word English equivalent that does justice to what the Hebrew word conveys?I watched a video last night made by a Jesuit. He said that there was a lot of argument in ICEL about whether or not “sabaoth” should be restored to the mass in the English translation, that is, leaving it in Hebrew as it was in the so-called “Latin” mass. Apparently, a compromise was made to translate it, but to translate it as “hosts,” which the priest was clear in saying is what they think it means, but aren’t actually 100% sure. I would love to hear, “Holy, holy, holy Lord God sabaoth…” Alas, it just might happen eventually! Missale Romanum v2.4, anyone?
The word (tzevaot) just means “hosts” or “armies”; St. Jerome regularly translated it that way into Latin. No big mystery. In the Old Testament it appears both in reference to heavenly hosts and to armies of men.How can they not know? Hebrew’s not exactly a lost language. Or is it more that there is no one-word English equivalent that does justice to what the Hebrew word conveys?
Please use the correct term. It is the Ordinary Form of the Mass.Sometimes in a Novus Ordo Mass there is a bit of Latin. Kyrie Eleison is one of them (can somebody give me the whole thing) and what other Latin prayers or responses are typically occasionally said at a Novus Ordo Mass (with English translation please)?
I also have heard “Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus” is the rest of the “Holy, Holy, Holy” prayer ever said in Latin in a Novus Ordo Mass?