What are these books?

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These are a couple of screenshots of a video and I was curious as to what these books are. I realize it may be difficult to identify the books in shot 1 because not much of them can be seen. And hopefully the book in shot 2 can be identified.

I hope I’m not violating any copyrights that may exist by posting the images here.

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They are Roman Breviaries, the books used by clergy and religious to say or sing the Divine Office, which is the Liturgy of the Hours.
 
Chatter163 said:
They are Roman Breviaries, the books used by clergy and religious to say or sing the Divine Office, which is the Liturgy of the Hours.
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They are not breviaries but antiphonaries that have the musical notation in order to chant the Divine Office, in this case, in Latin.

In this case they are Benedictine nuns and they are praying from the Monastic Antiphonary (Benedictines do not use the Roman Breviary but the Monastic Breviary, which is completely different from the Roman Breviary of 1910; it dates back to St Benedict in the 6th Century).

In fact I have positively identified the book as the Monastic Antiphonary published by Solesmes in 1934. I have a copy of that antiphonary, and page 115 in that picture matches page 115 in my antiphonary perfectly!

Specifically, they are chanting the hour of Sext.

Hope this answers your question!
 
OraLabora said:
They are not breviaries but antiphonaries that have the musical notation in order to chant the Divine Office, in this case, in Latin.

In this case they are Benedictine nuns and they are praying from the Monastic Antiphonary (Benedictines do not use the Roman Breviary but the Monastic Breviary, which is completely different from the Roman Breviary of 1910; it dates back to St Benedict in the 6th Century).

In fact I have positively identified the book as the Monastic Antiphonary published by Solesmes in 1934. I have a copy of that antiphonary, and page 115 in that picture matches page 115 in my antiphonary perfectly!

Specifically, they are chanting the hour of Sext.

Hope this answers your question!
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You didn’t tell us who did the sculpture pictured in the prayer card.

Slacker. 😃

-Tim-
 
TimothyH said:
Dude, you are the world’s most interesting monastic man!

-Tim-
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Just kidding, never took courses.

There’s a joke in monastic circles (yes monks do have a sense of humour 😉 ) that once a monk has figured out how to pray the Divine Office, he’s ready for solemn profession 😃
 
OraLabora said:
Just kidding, never took courses.

There’s a joke in monastic circles (yes monks do have a sense of humour 😉 ) that once a monk has figured out how to pray the Divine Office, he’s ready for solemn profession 😃
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Ha! I asked for the schema for the office from our local Cistercian monastery and the Brother said, “We’ll get it to you when we figure it out.”

**Young Monk: **Good morning Brother. How are you?
Old Monk: The same.

-Tim-
 
TimothyH said:
Ha! I asked for the schema for the office from our local Cistercian monastery and the Brother said, “We’ll get it to you when we figure it out.”
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I’ve figured out Lauds and Vespers, at least…
 
Razanir said:
I’ve figured out Lauds and Vespers, at least…
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The Cistercian monastary near me has their own schema. They are on a two week cycle through the Psalms. Every Cistercian Monastery is a little different. :hypno:

Even Christian Prayer threw me off today. I thought it was still Easter but it seems that we are back in the four week cycle, again, for now… It sometimes makes me want to go back to the Little Office of Our Lady.

-Tim-
 
TimothyH said:
The Cistercian monastary near me has their own schema. They are on a two week cycle through the Psalms. Every Cistercian Monastery is a little different. :hypno:

Even Christian Prayer threw me off today. I thought it was still Easter but it seems that we are back in the four week cycle, again, for now… It sometimes makes me want to go back to the Little Office of Our Lady.

-Tim-
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It’s still Eastertide but today is the memorial of St. Charles Lwanga and his companions (Ugandan martyrs).

Since this office has no propers:
  1. For the Office of Readings, the invitatory antiphon and hymn can be either from the season (Eastertide after Ascension) or the common of several martyrs; the psalmody is from the 4-week cycle (Week III), the first reading from the season (Tuesday 7th week of Easter), the second reading from the proper of the saint (homily of Paul VI for their canonization in this case), and the collect from the proper of the saint.
  2. For Lauds and Vespers, the hymn, short readings, responsory gospel canticle antiphon can be from either the season (Eastertide after Ascension) or from the common of several martyrs; the collect is from the proper of the saint; and the psalmody is, as above, for Week III of the 4-week cycle with the seasonal antiphons.
  3. For the minor offices, all is from the season (Eastertide) and week III of the psalter;
  4. Compline is invariable.
For memorials, the psalmody is always from the 4 week cycle unless it’s a memorial with proper antiphons for the psalmody, in which case the psalmody is the Sunday I psalms for Lauds and the psalmody from the Commons for Vespers (for the Office of Readings, psalms for the memorial are always from the 4 week cycle).
 
Psalitte said:
They might be Breviaries or other types of Office books, but my initial impression was that they might be the Liber Usualis

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-76XIDlMsa3o/Tmfs2aMHnLI/AAAAAAAAAW0/Xl_Av6C_e-U/s1600/liber+usualis.jpg

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Usualis
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Read my post above. They are not the Liber Usualis. The Liber Usualis is used by the Roman Church and does not contain the complete Divine Office. These are monastics and they are praying the Monastic Office which is very different.

The picture in the OP is from the Antiphonale Monasticum, p. 115, which is the office of Sext on weekdays. I have a copy of the Antiphonale Monasticum which was published in 1934 and the photo above matches my page 115 exactly.

ccwatershed.org/blog/2013/dec/4/1934-antiphonale-monasticum-free-pdf-download/
 
OraLabora said:
They are not breviaries but antiphonaries that have the musical notation in order to chant the Divine Office, in this case, in Latin.

In this case they are Benedictine nuns and they are praying from the Monastic Antiphonary (Benedictines do not use the Roman Breviary but the Monastic Breviary, which is completely different from the Roman Breviary of 1910; it dates back to St Benedict in the 6th Century).

In fact I have positively identified the book as the Monastic Antiphonary published by Solesmes in 1934. I have a copy of that antiphonary, and page 115 in that picture matches page 115 in my antiphonary perfectly!

Specifically, they are chanting the hour of Sext.

Hope this answers your question!
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Does anyone know where they’re available?
 
Question pawnraider, do you have a link to the video in which you found the pics? Do you know which community it was?
 
TimothyH said:
The Cistercian monastary near me has their own schema. They are on a two week cycle through the Psalms. Every Cistercian Monastery is a little different. :hypno:

Even Christian Prayer threw me off today. I thought it was still Easter but it seems that we are back in the four week cycle, again, for now… It sometimes makes me want to go back to the Little Office of Our Lady.

-Tim-
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Yeah, I’ve only figured out Christian Prayer. Or at least Lauds, Vespers, and Compline out of it.
 
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