What are UFOs and are they a threat?

[Kitty_Chan]

I just meant it as a place holder in time. Not that it was connected.

so it would be accurate to say as far back as 9-11 there were ufos, is that what you meant?

You stated me back part of my claims. If I read “on 9/11” I wouldn’t automatically think they meant during the attacks.
And, you dropped “unrevealed technology” from my claim.

Which bible verse? Who isn’t siting their sources now? Kidding but, you get my point about siting sources.

it was blue knight who asked originally for your sources and I seconded it.

and I dont believe we quoted scripture, if I did and you need it ask.

 

[motoeric]

Blue Knight,

You are aware that Stanton Friedman believes that Corso was a fraud, right?

What other books are you recommending?

Eric

 

[Milliardo]

That’s in Ezekiel 1 & 10 - it’s a vision of the Chariot-Throne of God, & has nothing to do w/ UFOs. ​

Von Daniken in his book, “Chariots of the Gods”, thinks otherwise though. Of course, Carl Sagan often lambasted him on that subject as well.

 

[peary]

Blue Knight,

You are aware that Stanton Friedman believes that Corso was a fraud, right?

What other books are you recommending?

Eric

I hope he doesn’t mention any books by George Adamski.

 

[lhagan]

Kitty Chan

I meant that specific sighting. Not the origin of UFOs. I suspect as somebody already stated that they originated around the 50s.

I do not know how to continue “my roll” on UFOs being man made.
But, I will tell you why I believe that.
First, I do not believe in aliens (except the Mexican kind no pun intended ).
Second, all the technology we know and enjoy today the scientists and military were all ready using decades,a century before they were commercialized. There were computers in labs in the early 1900s. They were as big as my apartment but, computers none the less.
Military had cell phones. They might have been as big and heavy as the average child’s backpack but, cell phones none the less.
Third, I do not know about your country but, mine was founded and is ran by a few Freemasons. Can’t put anything passed them.

Do I think it’s the military flying them? No, I think it is separate.
Do I think there is a connection between UFOs and and political conspiracies? As much as the majority of the world might like to believe Bush is that into anal probing…I just do not see enough facts to tie them together as of yet.

 

[rboo124]

I was wondering what some forum surfers think about the UFO phenomenon? Is it benevolent? Is it evil? Is it a great deception? Any (name removed by moderator)ut is welcomed.

I don’t dispute the existence of UFO’s or ghosts…I have proof of neither. I’ve seen objects in the night sky that I can’t explain, so who knows.

I see no reason why it’s not conceivable that God hasn’t solely used Earth for living beings. I’m not aware of any ‘claims’ of aliens ever being aggressive or trying to cause harm to humans.

If they do in fact exist, and the stories of them are true, they seem to be far advanced to humans. I wonder how their belief system works? Are they also advanced in their understanding of God?

Kind of a cool topic. There’s been a lot of claims made, and I can certainly understand a government cover up regarding the topic…be pretty amazing if it were true.

 

[Kitty_Chan]

I meant that specific sighting. Not the origin of UFOs. I suspect as somebody already stated that they originated around the 50s.

ok, so what specific sighting are you referring to?

I do not know how to continue “my roll” on UFOs being man made.
But, I will tell you why I believe that.
First, I do not believe in aliens (except the Mexican kind no pun intended ).

with you there

Second, all the technology we know and enjoy today the scientists and military were all ready using decades,a century before they were commercialized. There were computers in labs in the early 1900s. They were as big as my apartment but, computers none the less.
Military had cell phones. They might have been as big and heavy as the average child’s backpack but, cell phones none the less.

with you there too. and it would seem very strange to most people. just as the stuff they are developing now would seem strange. its all relative isnt it?

Third, I do not know about your country but, mine was founded and is ran by a few Freemasons. Can’t put anything passed them.

I think its just america founded by freemasons, and not quite sure how far reaching it is, a new thread is due for that.

Do I think it’s the military flying them? No, I think it is separate. Do I think there is a connection between UFOs and and political conspiracies? As much as the majority of the world might like to believe Bush is that into anal probing…I just do not see enough facts to tie them together as of yet.

Well given that somewhere like area 51 is also a military expermential area, which includes aircraft, Id say there is logical sense that something new has not been seen before and would look strange to people.

And there is a lot of developement of various things like cell phones and technology that no one has seen before. And not to mention that they dont want anyone to know or it would lose its covert status.

So put it this way, why would they “fight” the image of little green men?? as long as the public is chasing after aliens then they are not looking for what really is there.

Whats there? just a lot of military and spy toys that a lot of time money and effort have been spent on keeping secret. Do we need to know it all? maybe, maybe not. But as long as we chase green men, we are distracted.

It may be popular to consider the current administration as the blame all, but this stuff has gone on since the 50’s as everyone knows.

Even Russia has a Area 51 around the military, even they know its a good smoke screen.

 

[BluesPicker]

Hi,

   I  saw the trail of  a bright white blue that dissapated  to a green blob.  The trail in the early morning before sunrise was  thin jagged and  looked  like Brownian motion.   I  think that this was some sort of  meterite that may have been spinning and shaped funny.  I  didn't see it being made.   It was about  15°  from the zenith and I think  live at   31.91° North Latitude.   

   I  think that they are natural phenomena.   Thats the only thing I have seen..   It is an interesting thing.  For example if they are as some say tricks of Satan then would  one look the same to several people?   I don't think that  it is worth worry over.   There are other more pertaninent things to worry about.

 

[mangy_dog]

For many of those who have delved into the UFO phenomenon, it has had the same affect as if they were tinkering with the occult. For many it IS a religion because of what so-called aliens have revealed to them. Some of that is interwoven with new age thinking; some with the occult. I think it belongs in a forum for serious discussion because it deceives many souls.

Bottom line upfront: UFO’s are man made. The fact that the origins are occult is what makes their existence dangerous. One of the lies that are conveyed by UFO cults is that they are exrraterrestrial in origin. With vast civilizations and elevated philosophies and profound interpretatioins of the creation and the divine…it is a lie. There are no other advanced or super-intelligent civilizations out there. What is out there, came from here. With hidden and occult knowledge comes the danger of playing in the Devils playground of perception and deception. Lucifer is counting on mans perceptions of UFO’s.

This thread is useless. The origins are evil. Stay away from them. Pray and be vigilant that the devil doesn’t decieve you with UFO’s.
Vade retro Satana, non suade mihi vana. Sunt mala quae libas, ipse venea bibas.
Crux sacra sit mihi lux, nunquam draco sit mihi dux.

 

[peary]

Bottom line upfront: UFO’s are man made. The fact that the origins are occult is what makes their existence dangerous. One of the lies that are conveyed by UFO cults is that they are exrraterrestrial in origin. With vast civilizations and elevated philosophies and profound interpretatioins of the creation and the divine…it is a lie. There are no other advanced or super-intelligent civilizations out there. What is out there, came from here. With hidden and occult knowledge comes the danger of playing in the Devils playground of perception and deception. Lucifer is counting on mans perceptions of UFO’s.

This thread is useless. The origins are evil. Stay away from them. Pray and be vigilant that the devil doesn’t decieve you with UFO’s.
Vade retro Satana, non suade mihi vana. Sunt mala quae libas, ipse venea bibas.
Crux sacra sit mihi lux, nunquam draco sit mihi dux.

**Well, it wasn’t useless to me **

**Beam me up, Scotty. There’s no intelligent life in these forums… **

 

[lhagan]

Kitty Chan

It may be popular to consider the current administration as the blame all, but this stuff has gone on since the 50’s as everyone knows.

I used Bush for an example as to why there isn’t enough evidence to support a connection between politics and UFOs. Also, it was a joke.

 

[Kitty_Chan]

Kitty Chan

I used Bush for an example as to why there isn’t enough evidence to support a connection between politics and UFOs. Also, it was a joke.

oh hey no prob. I sometimes wonder about that ole bush pineta, hes just the current flavor.

what did you think about the rest??



its theraputic to talk about

 

[lhagan]

oh hey no prob. I sometimes wonder about that ole bush pineta, hes just the current flavor.

what did you think about the rest??



its theraputic to talk about

You are right about the rest. I fully agree with you. Can we create a forum about Freemasons without the site being shutdown?

 

[Kitty_Chan]

You are right about the rest. I fully agree with you. Can we create a forum about Freemasons without the site being shutdown?

as long as its charitable, there was a bbc show on awhile ago that was speaking about all secret societies.
I think thats what makes people the most nuts is things done in secret. societies and also all the stuff the military does.

so if we are on the same page (how about peary?) did you see the stuff awhile back on the mexican airforce and the ufos they were supposed to have seen?

 

[lhagan]

as long as its charitable, there was a bbc show on awhile ago that was speaking about all secret societies.
I think thats what makes people the most nuts is things done in secret. societies and also all the stuff the military does.

so if we are on the same page (how about peary?) did you see the stuff awhile back on the mexican airforce and the ufos they were supposed to have seen?

If you create it I’ll participate. People say my threads are too vague. So they don’t know how to address them.
I’d like to know how many secret societies are known,as well. And, what is known about them.

I don’t know how advanced Mexico is so I don’t know what he seen. but Mexico has a lot of open country so if they were built here they could be flown over Mexico without setting off alarms with the government.

Here’s the video i was talking about: youtube.com/watch?v=ybftpjNHXUQ&eurl=

 

[mangy_dog]

I don’t believe they are extraterrestrial, but supernatural. Angelic chariots? The Mer’kabah? Ophanim? After all, Ezekiel saw gyroscopic Wheels with eyes (Ophanim-- a kind of angel, also identified in Christian tradition as Thrones) flying in the sky. Also, I read that, for some reason, there are more reports of UFO’s in Israel, England, and Utah than any other areas in the world.

Stick to the Sound Doctrine. Please believe me, this is not a subject you want to immerse yourself in.

It is not a coincidence that UFO encounters of all kinds, so closely resemble demonic possesions and manifestations.

I pray you all stay away.

Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.

 

[Kitty_Chan]

Stick to the Sound Doctrine. Please believe me, this is not a subject you want to immerse yourself in.

It is not a coincidence that UFO encounters of all kinds, so closely resemble demonic possesions and manifestations.

I pray you all stay away.

Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.

Thats why some of us are talking about this, it is a good topic to shed some proper light on. The whole “we are arrogant to think we are the only ones” arguement. Whats wrong with being the apple of our Fathers eye? nothing, but it gives alot of pressure on us on this little planet there is no escape, we do have to learn to get along.

We cant run off to another planet with other civilations and ignore ours. That makes it tough. Besides we cant handle the life here, what makes us think we can handle life elsewhere? Now, thats arrogant.