What are your thoughts on women dressing modestly?

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it’s funny to see all these men groan on about women dressing up immodestly but these same men curse up a storm or they play immodest video games or watch very offensive movies.

If you are looking at too many butts in tight pants just stop looking
 
Do you think women should only wear skirts and dresses (mainly, no pants)?
Is that idea connected with modesty, or a different objective?
When I speak to my guy friends some of them are thankful some women put in some effort to look decent. That motivates me to continue dressing modestly.
Are these 2 ideas necessarily connected? “Look decent” / “dress modestly”? Unless you see “decent” and “modest” as synonyms.
 
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I believe Father Kunkel wrote that book in 1944 and passed away in 1969.

You can of course turn back the clock if you wish, but why stop there if you’re going to do that? Perhaps we should all just start dressing like the early Christians, including the men wearing skirts and kilts.
 
I have a more liberal picture of modesty than most too (I wear skinny jeans).
I don’t personally have an issue with skinny jeans if the only thing is that’s “skinny” is the calves. If if they are skinny in the behind and inner thighs, that can be a problem if a large shirt or sweater isn’t covering up a tight behind and inner thighs.
 
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Yeah. End you would be surprised by some early, early christian clothing (or clothing christians wore - what is not the same - but here is the main problem: there is no christian clothing. Not in scripture, nor as a for all regions normative teaching) as we will find:

-heavy make up in byzantium and at the rus christians in the middle ages. Covering the face with caky make up and khol/red colour instead of going “bare faced” is interpreted with modest covering love this 🤣)
-underwear. Yes, underwear! Poorer people in rural areas in central europe in the middle ages wore sometimes only the “bruche”, in medieval german a noun for a kind of underpants looking diaper like. Bodies were bodies. No one offended.
-breastfeeding in church. Yepp. There are sources. I always laugh a little if I see those dekolletee offended posts. In some good old´ times, boobs were just boobs.

That said, the whole strict modesty in dress view is a warm up of the 19th century, and was even then only possible to live for a small upper class of biedermeier housewives. This was not the rule for domestic life the centuries before where women were hard workers, nor was it the norm for their working class sisters. The ordinary fabric worker girl worked next to hot machines often in a bralette, or say, my grandma´s version of a crop top. They still went to holy mass on sunday and sure, they had been very irritated if someone told them they were immodest.
 
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1 Timothy.2:9. In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety;
The thread is interesting in 2 ways:
  • Ladies are conscious about what they wear.
  • Gents, catholic, are requesting less revealing clothing.
These last two decades fashion was a constant progression in revealing clothing [globalization removed cultural boundaries on fashion - without a fuss, new collections simply progressed and transgressed.] So the trend has been breaking boundaries towards the exaggeratedly revealing. Since culturally the notion of “appropriate” is challenged.

Sense of “shame”, “modesty” and “culturally acceptable” are anthropological and sociological. The authoritative text would be Norbert Elias in “Process of Civilisation”. Also Bourdieu in “Haute Couture and Haute Culture”.
 
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Well the Germans are renowned for having the worst fashion sense in Europe. And I’ll challenge outright that historically there wasn’t modesty in clothing. Ethnography shows amply that there were social norms on clothing.
 
I don´t talk on “the germans”, they weren´t existent in the times I talk about, and this underwear thin was common in whole central europe including todays france, the netherlands and upper italy.
Social norms, yes. I studied them alot. One main research field of me is costume history. And trust me, there were a way more situations with accepted nudity than you may think.
 
Well, I also know what I’m talking about. I have seen modesty with my own eyes. And I think some of the younger generations are mislead into forgetting that it ever existed.

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You answer a full post of examples with a few pictures. This is not what my post was about, nor says it anything to my arguments.
 
I searched that last picture. It’s on a website about death and mourning rituals in Portugal. Not sure how that relates to this topic
 
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I did Karate and Taekwondo for a few years and found these uniforms quite comfortable! Personally, I wouldn’t mind clothes to be more like this. Spacious and looser. 😁
 
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Tactical Kimono anyone? 🤔
 
You may like Yohji Yamamoto, the japanese fashion designer. A wayyyy to expensive, but I used his patterns for some stuff I sewed.
 
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