What are your thoughts on women dressing modestly?

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So apparently just having a standard is judging
Yes. If you apply it to anyone but yourself or anyone under your authority.
My standard is to wear clothes in public. Not sleepwear.
If you are sleeping in it, it’s sleepwear; if you are wearing it out and about it’s not sleepwear. I would challenge you to look at my fleece or flannel pants and tell me which wear from the pjs section and which were from winterwear or sporting goods sections.
Because from what I am hearing, everyone has some ‘necessity’ to wear pajamas in public and that ‘need’ is being roundly defended
I think Ed said something about exaggerating things…may it’s okay for you because you dress how he likes. Not everyone, not all the time. But when I only have one hand to use to dress, pjs were my only option.
All I ever said was I don’t want to see it
Oh, well. Not everything is about what you want.
In fact, virtually no one ‘needs’ to wear pajamas in public
What should I have worn then?
Most clothing has spandex in it (therefore it’s comfortable) and most people on this thread own more than enough clothing
I couldn’t get them on.
 
Well @bruised_reed you would have lost your case at trial because you failed to introduce a material piece of evidence (injured hand) and therefore failed to establish the necessity of wearing pajamas in public. You may appeal the decision of the lower court, but be advised that the proper procedure is to present all facts at trial level in order to secure a verdict in your favor. 😉 I hope all is well with you. I wish you good health.
 
Changing the goal posts I see. Pathetic.

Just a word for others don’t ever feel like to you have to share more information than you are okay with. People will challenge your reasons and those who are susceptible to scrupulosity maybe triggered by people asserting their preferences are the only thing that is authentically Catholic, socially acceptable, more holy. Those of us who have been in this position get it. Those who don’t may lack the empathy and imagination to figure that out and that is something to work on.
 
I disagree. Modesty is a virtue. It isn’t how you get boys. It is actually not caring that much about impressing boys. It is transcending as nears as possible our desire to impress people.

Which is why the slovenly slopppy man in flip flops and sweat pants is the most modest person possibly.
 
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I agree with your earlier post and I think you are saying something that needs to be noted. There have been times in discussions on dressing modestly when the definition of modesty took an unfortunate turn and became about being attractive. Even one of CA’s apologists wrote a blog post about dressing modestly and said something about wearing sandals and wrote that no one wants to see gnarly toes. When did gnarly toes have anything to do with modesty. Are my perfectly pedicured toes modest then? I don’t get it.

Or some will talk about wearing sleeveless dresses or the length of shorts or skirts and seem to suggest that a woman who is thin is more modest than a fat woman wearing the same outfit.
 
You missed my point.

Virtues are strengths to help us do the good and to help others see and do the good.
 
The fundamental thing with the “pajamas in public” is I haven’t actually seen an argument for why it’s bad other than that some people don’t like how it looks. That is not actually an argument I have any reason to care about.

There are actual moral reasons for modest dressing.
 
I don’t mean to be glib, but if someone is so overweight that they can’t find manufactured
clothes that fit, they’d be better served by trying to improve their health over learning to become a seamstress.
 
She meant fit well. Reread where she describes sizes and proportions. Real women vary in size and shape that clothing is going to fit poorly. I’m long waisted so anything
with an attached belt or is fitted and has a defined waist will sit at the bottom of my ribcage, not my waist.
 
Yup. I’m petite and curvy, so I get a lot of issues where the bust or hips aren’t big enough, or aren’t in the right place. And I end up with cleavage even in a lot of tops that aren’t designed for cleavage - the tops hit lower because I’m shorter and the extra bust tends to pop out. For some reason most clothing manufacturers seem convinced women my size are all flat-chested.

People also might keep in mind that the fashion industry’s idea of “overweight” often seems to have little touch with reality.
 
Hi Lucie,

Rule #1:

Never argue with a woman carrying a loaded crossbow. 🙂
 
This is going to make me giggle for the test of the evening.
(And thanks for easing the tension earlier. :ok_woman:t2:
 
You are most welcome.

I’m very glad to make you laugh. And you are probably spot on, hanging out here can very often be a “test” of an evening. 🙂
 
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Thinking of new titles other than Vampire Slayer. Hmm. So many ideas.
 
I’m kinda torn on this. While there’s nothing fun or exciting about being modest, immodesty is just immoral. I think it’s about moderation. We don’t want sharia type regulations but we also don’t want people walking around naked.
 
I think everyone should be modest, both men and women. I personally think pants are fine for women, but I like to wear loose palazzo or wide-leg pants instead of tight-fitting skinny jeans or something (those things are torture devices, I don’t understand why people want to wear them). I find loose tunics and skirts/trousers way more comfy and better looking than a lot of the things I see other women wear. For me, people are usually more disturbed by the hijab than my clothes, but my standard response to people bothering me about what I’m wearing is to brightly say something like “I know! isn’t it pretty?” 😃 and that seems to shut them up.
 
I’ve almost been tempted to put a headscarf on once or twice, if only to see if it gets the idea across of “no matter what you say, you’re not going to talk me into casual sex, so kindly buzz off and let me read already.”

And they are pretty. I used to live up in an area with a lot of Muslims and you got all sorts of colors and patterns - I’ve even seen rhinestone scarves.
 
Saw a couple people mention how modesty can up a person’s attractiveness: FWIW, those sorts of arguments make me reeeeeally uncomfortable. The goal of modesty is to avoid drawing overt attention to yourself - not feed into some weird “modest is hottest” fetish. I dress modestly (in jeans and turtlenecks, currently) because I’m Catholic, and it’s just what we do. I definitely don’t want to be sexually objectified in the other direction.
 
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