What arguments for the resurrection and the existence of God

[itullian]

do you find most persuasive. which made it click with you.

thanks

 

[Aeden]

Well, one way to make a solid argument for God’s existence is the odds of unassisted evolution: one in 7^28, pretty darn low.

Another good one is life itself. no matter how many chemical reactions have occurred in labs, scientists have never been able to even come close to artificial life, not even the complexity of the simplest of living organisms can be reproduced.

As for proof of the resurrection, I can’t think of anything outside the Bible, which would not be considered an unbiased source.

 

[jochoa]

do you find most persuasive. which made it click with you.

thanks

Thanks for asking. I look forward to discussion.

When one seeks to understand the solution to “How to create a society of unbreakable peace with the experiences of limitless happiness for all, given the Creator initially exists in complete solitude and must think of everything in complete detail prior to creating it,” the following will be revealed:
Although free will is a necessity, since unbreakable peace and happiness are requirements, members of the society must freely subject themselves to being perfectly patient for peace (freedom from disturbance), kind for happiness (contentment to intense joy), and motivated for the ability to eternally will.
In order to ensure all members of the society will freely subject themselves to these standards of living, an additional society is necessary. In this additional society, everyone is given the opportunity to freely decide whether or not they want to live accordingly. In this additional society, life must end to pass to the Heavenly society. Therefore, Jesus resurrected after death on earth to His Heavenly Kingdom.

For the existence of God, consider the following: What was the first physical/material thing to exist?
There are only two options: it was either living (cell-like) or non-living (atom-like).
If you choose to believe it was non-living, then nothing until the first life could have considered the concept of a heavenly afterlife. Since there would be nothing to create a heavenly afterlife, given this belief, there is no heavenly afterlife. Without a heavenly afterlife option, life quickly becomes hopeless, purposeless, miserable, self-fulfilling, self-destructive, etc.
Therefore, the smart choice is to recognize God’s/Jesus Christ’s body is the first physical/material thing to exist.

Thoughts?

 

[punkforchrist]

Hi itullian,

I find the cosmological and teleological arguments for God’s existence persuasive. Very roughly: something presently exists. If there were ever a past time at which nothing existed, then nothing would currently exist (out of nothing comes nothing). Therefore, there must be something necessary and eternal. Moreover, whenever something happens over and over again, it is not the result of chance, but of design. Since the laws of nature fit this description, we may infer that a cosmic designer exists.

As for the resurrection of Jesus, consider the evidence for the empty tomb. The testimony of women was regarded as worthless in antiquity. Yet, the Gospels report that the tomb of Jesus was discovered empty by a group of his women followers. Given that the Gospel writers would have been embarrassed by this fact, they would have been highly unlikely to have made it up. If belief in Jesus’ empty tomb were the result of legend, then the writers surely would have chosen men, plausibly Jesus’ male disciples, as the discoverers of his empty tomb.

As I said, these are very rough sketches of the arguments.

 

[laircy]

For the Resurrection:
peterkreeft.com/topics-more/resurrection-evidence.htm

For God (very long but interesting and worth a read):
home.earthlink.net/~almoritz/cosmological-arguments-god.htm

 

[PeterGStanley]

Some people are simply given the gift of faith by God and can’t tell you why or even care they just believe.
I’m had to explore my faith.