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Now show me the verse(s) in the Bible which gives the authority to any human creature to found another church other than the ONE CHURCH which Jesus Christ founded?
Show me the verse(s) which authorizes anyone to simply hold up a Bible and proclaim, “This is my authority”. Do non-cathloic have to start a Church and call them self BISHOP what gives a preasher the authority call him self a Bishop
 
Please tell me why I,m looking for a argument, I can get that from my wife
 
I’m just jumping into catholism but I think the verse your looking for is in the Bible. Something along where 2 or three people come together there Jesus is. Again I may be mistaken. But that verse could be the justification that people use to begin forming different churches. Keep in mind during the Reformation and even in today’s time people don’t like being told what to do. The rules in the Catholic church are strict. Since the church doesn’t change its stance once its made an official opinion; people either jump into line or leave. they don’t abandon God they just abandon the church. Thats my humble opinion on why you see so many different Christian churches. Keep in mind people don’t need a special authority or permission if they want to start their own church. The only reason anyone would want to get a special authority from the church is if they want to in some way retain a part of that churches teachings. Think copy right laws and such Or if they want to be in communion with said church. Again this is just my humble opinion.
 
To reply to original poster, there is no scripture in the New Testament giving any man authority. Jesus made it clear the original Apostles did not call him — he called them, which from my mind is, relative to my church now, authority or the priesthood of God, is bestowed to those men who are have authority from the church to have it and the church knows that man has the authority

I recognize that Catholics DO NOT recognize my church’s validity in its profession of being the true church of Jesus Christ MAINLY DUE to their issues with Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon, etc that they continue to recycle falsely here on the forums and otherwise whether they are Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, or other Catholic apologists or anyone else.
 
Bill_Pick said:
Now show me the verse(s) in the Bible which gives the authority to any human creature to found another church other than the ONE CHURCH which Jesus Christ founded?
Show me the verse(s) which authorizes anyone to simply hold up a Bible and proclaim, “This is my authority”. Do non-cathloic have to start a Church and call them self BISHOP what gives a preasher the authority call him self a Bishop
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We don’t have to attempt to found some other church other than the one church Jesus Christ founded when we believe that we are the one church that Jesus Christ founded.
 
Bill_Pick said:
Now show me the verse(s) in the Bible which gives the authority to any human creature to found another church other than the ONE CHURCH which Jesus Christ founded?
Show me the verse(s) which authorizes anyone to simply hold up a Bible and proclaim, “This is my authority”. Do non-cathloic have to start a Church and call them self BISHOP what gives a preasher the authority call him self a Bishop
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Apostolic Succession is claimed by an abundance of groups. Some of them recognized by the Catholic Church and some not. All of these groups use the word bishop and to one extent or another might say they are the ONE CHURCH you speak of. As far as groups without Apostolic Succession; they believe that bishop is essentially synonymous with deacon or elder. I think it is a fairly complicated question. I read a book once describing the different forms of church government and in the end I could not decide myself. 🤷
 
Well, I’m probably gonna get hammered for this, but I’ll wade in a bit . As I understand it, God gives us all free will. So, I guess you could declare yourself anything you want. You, I presume, could start your own Church and worship the clouds, if you like. The only question is will God sanction it as a true Church. Since none of us gets to speak to God and get a good answer until it’s too late, there’s no way to know which Church is right.

We Catholics believe that we are members in the Church founded by Christ himself. It is what I believe in my heart. It is what I was taught as a child and have reconfirmed for myself as an adult and it’s what I’m teaching my children. If you or others choose to put your faith in some other church, then God bless and good luck. I have total confidence in God’s mercy so you may be okay regardless. I know that’s gonna draw some venom.

“For God all things are possible” my defense in advance.

Peace be with you.
 
Bill_Pick said:
Now show me the verse(s) in the Bible which gives the authority to any human creature to found another church other than the ONE CHURCH which Jesus Christ founded?
Show me the verse(s) which authorizes anyone to simply hold up a Bible and proclaim, “This is my authority”. Do non-cathloic have to start a Church and call them self BISHOP what gives a preasher the authority call him self a Bishop
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This thread is a joke.
 
Bill_Pick said:
Now show me the verse(s) in the Bible which gives the authority to any human creature to found another church other than the ONE CHURCH which Jesus Christ founded?
Show me the verse(s) which authorizes anyone to simply hold up a Bible and proclaim, “This is my authority”. Do non-cathloic have to start a Church and call them self BISHOP what gives a preasher the authority call him self a Bishop
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Bill_Pick said:
Now show me the verse(s) in the Bible which gives the authority to any human creature to found another church other than the ONE CHURCH which Jesus Christ founded?
Show me the verse(s) which authorizes anyone to simply hold up a Bible and proclaim, “This is my authority”. Do non-cathloic have to start a Church and call them self BISHOP what gives a preasher the authority call him self a Bishop
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Well your church recognises the bishops in my church as being true bishops, so clearly your own church is recognising that my church is the one church which Jesus Christ founded. 😉
 
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Well your church recognises the bishops in my church as being true bishops, so clearly your own church is recognising that my church is the one church which Jesus Christ founded. 😉
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Yeah, but they recognize the bishops in my church as being true bishops as well.
 
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Yeah, but they recognize the bishops in my church as being true bishops as well.
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My point was that the argument itself is silly, not that I seriously believe the legitimacy of my church is based on the Pope recognising my bishops as canonical.
 
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