What can I do for this Greek Orthodox woman with dementia?

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I have a very, very basic question to ask so please understand my level of knowledge on this- practically none. I am a new Catholic myself, recently welcomed into the church though attending for many years.

At any rate, my grandmother is in a memory care nursing home and has a new next door neighbor. This woman is Greek, very friendly and has a lot of her faculties still around her. She loves my children (as most of the residents do) and in conversation I told her that they go to Catholic school. I asked her if she was Greek Orthodox. She said yes. I asked if she has a priest to come to see her each week, as I know there is a Greek church in the city near us. She thinks so- this is part of the difficulty with dementia, it’s not always easy to keep track of time.

Anyway, my question is how similar are the traditions in Greek Orthodox compared to Catholic Latin Rite? If I brought her a prayer card, or rosary, would that be meaningful to her? Particularly in terms of her dementia. I would want it to be meaningful in a deep way so it really connects in her brain, so I don’t mean, would it be thoughtful. I mean, would it actually be something that would connect for her as G.O.? I have a box of prayer cards and it would be so nice to give her one or two. Do the saints play a big part of cultural life in G.O. such that perhaps she would say, deep in the recesses of her mind, I know exactly what this is?

I hope this makes sense 🙂 Dementia is difficult. I’d like to do something that she can reach while she still can. My grandmother is mostly past that point. Thanks for your help.
 
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well there are a LOT of similarities that the latin tradition shares with the east, but there are also many differences she probably won’t want a rosary or prayer cards because they where developed latter on in our tradition and are not present in the east. you will have to ask a (not-anti-catholic) Orthodox or a eastern Catholic to know what to give her.
 
Hello Savedbygrace

well there are a LOT of similarities that the latin tradition shares with the east, but there are also many differences she probably won’t want a rosary or prayer cards because they where developed latter on in our tradition and are not present in the east. you will have to ask a (not-anti-catholic) Orthodox or a eastern Catholic to know what to give her.
Most people in real life don’t think that way. I’d be willing to be she would recognize and appreciate either a prayer card or a rosary.
 
I have a very, very basic question to ask so please understand my level of knowledge on this- practically none. I am a new Catholic myself, recently welcomed into the church though attending for many years. …

Anyway, my question is how similar are the traditions in Greek Orthodox compared to Catholic Latin Rite? If I brought her a prayer card, or rosary, would that be meaningful to her? …
A prayer card should be fine, particularly one that has a representation of an icon, e.g, Our Lady of Czestochowa or Our Lady of Perpetual Help or Christ the Pantocrator. A rosary could be problematic, though, and personally I’d not do that. A small crucifix might be good, perhaps the St Francis Cross (I’ve forgotten what it’s actually called), as would a small icon and a little votive candle.
 
You are so sweet!

Prayer cards are not part of the tradition, but if you could find a very small icon…Sometimes an Orthodox Church will have a very small religious goods shop on site.

The rosary is not part of the Orthodox tradition either. They use a prayer rope and repeat one prayer called The Jesus Prayer; Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me a sinner. Since it is so easy and repetetive, it might be a good choice for her.
 
You are so sweet!

Prayer cards are not part of the tradition, but if you could find a very small icon…Sometimes an Orthodox Church will have a very small religious goods shop on site.

The rosary is not part of the Orthodox tradition either. They use a prayer rope and repeat one prayer called The Jesus Prayer; Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me a sinner. Since it is so easy and repetetive, it might be a good choice for her.
Yeah there are wooden prayer ropes that look very similar to a rosary.
 
Why don’t you phone the local Greek Orthodox church to ask them what would be appropriate? It is not your place to encourage anything other than her own religious beliefs especially when her thinking is compromised. You wouldn’t like it if a Greek Orthodox person brought your mother an icon from her church if your mother was Catholic. If they don’t use rosaries and prayer cards don’t offer any. Give her something that she would remember using. Ask at her church.
 
(Whistles)…real life Orthodox right here. A prayer card or a rosary is fffiiinnneeee. 😃
 
Why don’t you phone the local Greek Orthodox church to ask them what would be appropriate? It is not your place to encourage anything other than her own religious beliefs especially when her thinking is compromised. You wouldn’t like it if a Greek Orthodox person brought your mother an icon from her church if your mother was Catholic. If they don’t use rosaries and prayer cards don’t offer any. Give her something that she would remember using. Ask at her church.
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(Whistles)…real life Orthodox right here. A prayer card or a rosary is fffiiinnneeee. 😃
Thank you! Thanks all for your (name removed by moderator)ut. I’ll bring her some prayer cards and see how we do 🙂
 
I asked her if she was Greek Orthodox. She said yes. I asked if she has a priest to come to see her each week, as I know there is a Greek church in the city near us. She thinks so- this is part of the difficulty with dementia, it’s not always easy to keep track of time.
I hope this makes sense 🙂 Dementia is difficult. I’d like to do something that she can reach while she still can. My grandmother is mostly past that point. Thanks for your help.
How about an icon calendar? There are some beautiful ones and it would help her keep track of the days/months/seasons:

2014:
stanthonysmonastery.org/ccp7/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=7CALEN

orthodoxmarketplace.com/calendars/2014-icon-wall-calendar.html

stnectariospress.com/2014-orthodox-wall-calendar/

2015:
archangelsbooks.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CONCALENDA-01
 
Why don’t you phone the local Greek Orthodox church to ask them what would be appropriate? It is not your place to encourage anything other than her own religious beliefs especially when her thinking is compromised. You wouldn’t like it if a Greek Orthodox person brought your mother an icon from her church if your mother was Catholic. If they don’t use rosaries and prayer cards don’t offer any. Give her something that she would remember using. Ask at her church.
I see what you’re trying to say (and I agree with asking the local Greek Orthodox church to ask what is appropriate) but I don’t think it is the original poster’s intent to encourage the woman to consider different beliefs and the like. (On a side note) It also doesn’t hurt to find something common between the two faiths. But I think the poster is asking because he/she wants to make it meaningful for the person they are giving it to - he/she’s being very careful and considerate. Just wanted to point that out. 👍
 
yes, what Dan said. I just want to find something that this woman will intuitively connect with. It isn’t so much that one thing or another may be inappropriate per se, more that with dementia, new things simply don’t register. It should be something that is so well imbedded in her mind that she can recognize it and feel comfort without stress.

I love the idea of a calendar!! Thank you for that suggestion!
 
Good thread. I like the suggestion of a prayer card (or a rosary) but let me add: if it’s a card pertaining to a particular saint, make it a saint from the first millennium.

(Likewise, if an Orthodox gave a Catholic an icon of St Mark of Ephesus, it might not go over too well. For that matter, some Catholics might even be offended by St Photios.)
 
I agree you should be careful in that regard. I do think though that often we project our own ways of thinking onto others. I’d be willing to bet 99% of Catholics wouldn’t have a clue who St Mark of Ephesus or St Photios are just like 99% or Orthodox wouldn’t know who St Josaphat Kuntsevych is. We webcaths and netodox are a different breed. 🙂
 
Why don’t you phone the local Greek Orthodox church to ask them what would be appropriate? It is not your place to encourage anything other than her own religious beliefs especially when her thinking is compromised. You wouldn’t like it if a Greek Orthodox person brought your mother an icon from her church if your mother was Catholic. If they don’t use rosaries and prayer cards don’t offer any. Give her something that she would remember using. Ask at her church.
Thank you for wanting to reach out to her. I spend time daily in an assisted living visiting an elderly neighbor with no family. It’s a lovely facility with excellent care. Many of the residents are seldom visited, partly I’m sure because many also have dementia.

Anyway, I think the idea several have mentioned of an icon calendar is excellent. I’ll just add that the Greek Orthodox parishes I’ve been around in the US are all on the Revised Julian Calendar. At this time of year it would be irrelevant. But come 2015 if you purchase one I suggest looking for the Revised Julian. Even though she is impaired in her memory it would be nice to have the dates related to Pascha correct.

Also, Slav parishes here tend to give out calendars at the end of the year for the coming year. I don’t know about Greek Orthodox.

I encourage you also to be in touch with the local Greek Orthodox parish. Greek Orthodox tend to be very comfortable with Catholics. Check to be sure they know she is there and are bringing her communion if that’s appropriate.
 
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