What can I do to avoid impurity?

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Honestly, I am a 29 year old male and my main struggle with everything that revolves around the Church and God is masturbation, impurity, and women. I , as a male, that has never been marreid and has had limited interaction with women, struggle significantly with impurity, whther its going online etc, talk, etc, etc.

how do you over come this, i know all the basic answers, because ive been down asking this but i would like the help again, i am so attracted to women that it is so impossible for me not to want to talk to one, or look, or whatever it may be,
 
If you are 29, maybe you are in the way of needing to look for a wife … this way you can put those thoughts into a positive situation … and as long as you use the Catholic system to not get pregnant if you don’t want children right away, you are then allowed to enjoy sex with your wife.
 
What Katherine438 says does have some truth to it…however don’t think it will be a quick fix. I am married to my husband for 3 years now and still struggle with masturbation and impure thoughts. It IS getting easier to get away from these sins, and it isn’t because I can get satisfaction from my husband…confession also helps a lot with getting over sins. So please don’t count that out. I have found that when I miss confession due to whatever outside force I would fail more often. The more times I go…the longer it takes for me to fail.

Hope this helps even though it is from a female’s perspective.

God Bless and Pray…oh right and praying a lot also helps to keep the sin at bay.
 
A sincere, heart felt Confession. Weekly if necessary. No matter how painful or embarrassing. God will hear you. Healing may happen immediately or after a period of time. In the meantime, understand that your daily struggles are intended to build up your spiritual muscles, build up your ability to say “no” and turn from impurity.

–Try a daily act of penance, something from the Manual of Indulgences. Do not do more without taking direction from a priest who knows you well as the devil can drag you around by the nose with extreme acts of penance if you’re not careful.

–Seriously practise Custody of the Eyes. Nothing is really safe anymore on the Internet (provocative ads) or TV shows (constant bombardment of filth). Same with movies. Try reading books more (ignore magazines, the ads are insane too) and seriously limiting your time online.

–Keep yourself busy with offline activities, maybe volunteer work (especially great if you offer it up to God for the conversion of sinners). I think boredom and the life of leisure we have nowadays is the main root of why sinful distractions hook us.
 
Great tips from RosyAnne.

I would say is that you need to look for information that will make you understand how we love others like yourself, and then see things that state what is love, so that we can act love with others, but loving like He does (following scripture).

A good start is the book “Love and Responsibility” by Karol Wojtyla and maybe then “Theology of the Body” by John Paul II. Love is not about our “instincts”, in the means you get lost in them, you need to tell yourself, you are being enslaved by them.

The first thing I would think is necessary, is prayer, then the sacraments, confession and the Eucharist as often as you can or need them.

Analyze this scripture , and pray to the Virgin Mary, meaning love the Virgin Mary.

“25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ loved the church and handed himself over for her26 to sanctify her, cleansing her by the bath of water with the word, 27 that he might present to himself the church in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. 28 So (also) husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one hates his own flesh but rather nourishes and cherishes it, even as Christ does the church, 30 because we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave (his) father and (his) mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak in reference to Christ and the church. 33 In any case, each one of you should love his wife as himself, and the wife should respect her husband.” Ephesians 5, 25-33

Our “psychological profile” needs to be subordinated to the objective profile of love, the affirmation of the value of the person.

This is what a Spanish father wrote:
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If when loving a person is impossible to leave aside the physical giving, there are enough motives to ask if the predominance belongs to affection or to sex.
The one that is not able to love in continence, there is no reason to believe he can love in matrimony.
You don’t impose love. You give and you gain it cultivating it every day.
“John Paul II said: “Love according to Christ is a difficult and demanding path. To be what God wants, demands an effort that is patient, a struggle with ourselves. You want to shut oneself up in the circle of your instincts? In man, unlike animals, instinct doesn’t have the right to have the last word.
”} To Save Yourself by Fr. Jorge Loring

In the means you follow pleasures as north, you will be a slave of them. This goes with what the scripture states, your heart will be where your treasures are. What does it matter if you win the world but you loose your soul. The way to get to Him is by self denial and the carrying of the cross there is no other way for love (Gods love that is).

“19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and decay destroy, and thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor decay destroys, nor thieves break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there also will your heart be. 22 "The lamp of the body is the eye. If your eye is sound, your whole body will be filled with light; 23 but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be in darkness. And if the light in you is darkness, how great will the darkness be. 24 "No one can serve two masters. He will either hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. “ Matthew 6, 21-24 (Mammon is an Aramaic word meaning wealth or property. [22-23] In this context the parable probably points to the need for the disciple to be enlightened by Jesus’ teaching on the transitory nature of earthly riches.)

“38 and whoever does not take up his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me.” Matthew 10,38

“23 He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are an obstacle to me. You are thinking not as God does, but as human beings do.” 24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Whoever wishes to come after me must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow me. 25 For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. 26 What profit would there be for one to gain the whole world and forfeit his life? Or what can one give in exchange for his life? 27 For the Son of Man will come with his angels in his Father’s glory, and then he will repay everyone according to his conduct. “ Matthew 16, 23-27

The ones who will be first will be the ones who serve, the ones that act like “slaves”. To be the slaves of God we need to negate to be slaves on anything else, a man can’t have two masters. Like scriptures states you are either a slave of sin or a slave of God. You either obey “yourself” or obey His way.

“Do you not know that if you present yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?” Romans 6, 16

“By obedience you give great glory to Me and gain merit for yourself.”
— Jesus to St. Faustina (Diary of St. Faustina, 28)

“13 No one experiencing temptation should say, “I am being tempted by God”; for God is not subject to temptation to evil, and he himself tempts no one.14 Rather, each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. 15 Then desire conceives and brings forth sin, and when sin reaches maturity it gives birth to death.” James 1, 13-15

We need to work firstly on our soul and spirit, strengthening them so that our “eyes” (our senses, our body) can always keep looking towards God as north. We need to learn and work to understand love, so that if Gods will is that we get married, you love your spouse the way He wants, not the way we want.

Love (Gods love) gives the responsibility to be sure, you surely are loving, for that’s the way we are going to be judged.
 
Here are some parts of “Love and Responsibility” to see if you find it interesting:

• Personalistic norm: The person is a kind of good to which only love constitutes the proper and fully-mature relation
• There are two profiles of love:
A) The objective profile which is the most important one and which “corrects and guides”, is the affirmation of the value of the person.
B) The subjective profile of love that is divided in:
1) Affectivity: particular sensibility (not excitability) toward the sexual value linked to the “whole human being of the other sex” to “femininity”, to “masculinity”, things not directly linked to the body.
2)Sensuality: denotes sensibility toward the sexual value linked directly to the body. Sensuality by itself possesses a consumer orientation, the “body” is at times experienced as “a possible object of use.”

“ For Wojtyla the relation to another man does not merely depend on the fact of him being an end in himself, but also on him being ordained to ends outside of himself that are perfective of him (and of his freedom), and ultimately to God as his final end. Man unalike as other animals has self determination (free will), and is and should be self reliant in his actions, has an interiority which no one can take, and is incommunicable to the other, and no one can will in his stead. “

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“ Pleasure by its very essence is a good that is merely temporary, belonging solely to a given subject—its not a supra subjective or transsubjective good. So as long as this good is considered to be the complete basis of the moral norm, there can be no way of transcending what is good only for me. “

“Only loving excludes using.

The person is a kind of good to which only love constitutes the proper and fully-mature relation.”

“The value of the person as such is contained in the essence of love. And if we might rightly say that the one who loves a person is thereby just toward him, it will not be true at all to state that loving a person consists in being only just toward him.

Symptoms of the sexual drive must be assessed in man on the level of love and actualizations of the drive belong to the cycle of responsibility, precisely the responsibility for love.

Sexual morality results from the fact that persons not only have a consciousness of the finality of sexual life, but also a consciousness of being persons.
A conviction that man is a person leads to accepting the postulate that using should be subordinated to loving.

The utilitarian mentality point is to obtain the greatest possible pleasure, which the sexual sphere provides in such a prominent degree in the form of libido. Catholics ethics, however, protests in the name of its personalistics presuppositions: one may not be led by the “balance of pleasure” alone where the relation to the person comes into play— the person may not in any way be an object of use.“

“Sin is a violation of the true good. For the true good , which is the concern of love between a man and a woman, is above all the person, and is neither affection for its own sake nor, much less, pleasure for its own sake. After all, these are secondary goods and from them alone it is impossible to build love, that is, the durable union of persons, even though these goods are so strongly manifested in love’s subjective, psychological profile. A person may never be sacrificed for them, however, for that would introduce an element of sin into love.

“Sinful love” is not else but precisely a system of reference between two persons Y and X in which affection alone, and even more so pleasure alone, assumes the dimension of the self reliant good and determines everything, ignoring the objective value of the person and the objective laws and principles of interaction and relations between persons of different sex.

Sin which is contained in sinful love dwells by its very essence in free will. The concupiscence of the flesh is merely its “hotbed”. For the will can and should prevent the “dis-integration” of love; it should prevent pleasure or even affection alone from assuming the dimension of the self-reliant good, to which everything else is subordinated in the relation toward the person of the other sex or within the reciprocal interaction and relations between persons. The will can and should be guided by objective truth. It can, and so it should, demand that reason give it the true vision of love and of the happiness that love can bring to a woman and a man (so much evil proceeds here from a false, purely subjectivistic vision of happiness in which the “fullness of good” was replaced by a mere “sum of pleasures”). “

“} From Love and Responsibility by Karol Wojtyla
 
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“By analyzing love under three different aspects (the metaphysical, psychological, and ethical), we managed to distinguish many of its elements. The point is to integrate the elements correctly, both in every person and between them, between a woman and a man, so that they form a proper personal and interpersonal whole. That is why the function of integration is so important. Love cannot remain merely a subjective “situation” in which the energies of sensuality and affectivity that are awakened by the drive come to light. For then it does not measure up to the person nor does unite persons. Love must be firmly based on the affirmation of the value of the person so that it can attain full personal value and unite properly a man and a woman. Taking this affirmation as a departure point, one can easily proceed to thoroughly desiring the good for the beloved person — the good worthy of the person ---- which confers on love a “beatifying” character. People, a woman and a man, long for love, because they count on the happiness that it will bring into their life.

Longing for the true happiness for the other person and genuine self-giving for his good impress on love the invaluable mark of altruism. All this, however, may not mature and crystallize in the love between a man and a woman if what prevails is the concupiscible attitude, love of desire, or especially desire born from the reactions of sensuality, even if placed against the background of rich affective lived-experiences. These lived-experiences give love a “flavor”, but do not always contain its objective essence, which is most closely connected with reciprocal affirmation of the value of the person…“

"Although love is based on the body and the senses so firmly and explicitly, it is nevertheless not the body and the senses alone that create its proper framework and proper profile. Love is always an affair of interiority and of spirit, in fact, to the degree it ceases to be an affair of interiority and of spirit it also ceases to be love. What remains in it in the senses themselves and in the sexual vitality of the human body alone does not constitute its proper essence. The will (in its freedom) is in a sense the last resort in the person; without its participation no lived experience has full personal value, it does not possess the complete specific weight of the person…

Love in the psychological sense must be subordinated in man to love in the ethical sense, otherwise the integration of love is out of the question.
There can be no psychological fullness of love until ethical fullness is achieved. Love understood as many situations or a as concrete one, are psychologically mature and complete insofar as in each of them separately and all together, love possesses its ethical value…

Love has its ethical sense as it is bound and “governed” by the personalistic norm. So love as lived experience must be subordinated to love as virtue, and to such extent, that without love as virtue there can be no fullness of the lived-experience of love. The Christian Gospel knows love as a supernatural virtue, a divine virtue. A supernatural virtue is rooted in nature and acquires some human form thanks to man’s actions, and at the same time is expressed and confirm in his action, both In interior and exterior acts.
In accord with the full meaning of the word, love is a virtue and not merely an affection. Love as a virtue lives in the will by being disposed toward the value of the person, and so it is the source of the affirmation of the person that permeates all reactions, lived experiences, and all conduct in general…

Love as a virtue relates to affective love and sensual desire, as the point in the ethical order, is to bind the sexual values firmly with the value of the person, since love neither turns to the “body” alone nor even to the “human being of the other sex” himself, but precisely to the person. Love cannot be based neither on sensuality or affectivity alone as they in some way deviate from the true fullness of the person, and do not permit or at least do not lead to his affirmation…
“For love is something different from amorous lived experiences. Love is formed on the basis of a thorough and fully responsible relation of a person to another person, whereas amorous lived-experiences are born spontaneously in reactions of sensuality and affectivity. A very abundant development of these lived-experiences may conceal in itself an underdevelopment of love. Therefore, in our analysis of love, we drew attention to the necessity of distinguishing between these two profiles: the objective and the subjective.
And therefore we must consider very seriously the possibility of a disintegration of love. This refers to a lived-experience or even a number of amorous lived-experiences that find their source and basis in the senses and affections, while themselves being still personally immature. The desintegration means above all an underdevelopment of the ethical essence of love… “

“} From Love and Responsibility by Karol Wojtyla
 
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“Hence one may not call love what is merely its element or “part”, since an improper concentration of these “parts” or elements can result not in love, but rather in the denial of love. Furthermore, there is a fundamental postulate from the viewpoint of ethics: for the good of love, for the sake of realizing love’s true essence both in every person and between persons, it is necessary to be freed from all those “amorous” lived-experiences that do not find justification in true love, that is, in the reciprocal relation between a man and a woman based on a mature affirmation of the value of the person. This postulate hits the crux of the matter concerning chastity. The word chastity speaks of being free from all that “makes dirty”. Love must be in a sense transparent: through all lived experiences, through all deeds that find their source in it, it must always be apparent that this relation to the person of the other sex proceeds from a genuine affirmation of his value. Since the lived-experiences and deeds that deprive love of this transparency spring from the substratum of the senses and the affections connected to them, a separate virtue is needed in order to protect from this side the true character and objective profile of love. This virtue is chastity, which is allied most closely with the love of persons Y and X…”

“} From Love and Responsibility by Karol Wojtyla
 
Maybe try using not masturbating as a form of penance. That is to say penance for the “impure” thoughts, words, actions, in the past. When you backslide redouble your efforts to use not masturbating as penance once again. May you all be filled with loving kindness. May you all be well. May you all be peaceful and at ease. May you all be happy.
 
God placed in you the natural attraction to women. He placed in you the natural drive that comes from the the sexual tendencies for obvious reasons, marriage and the propagation of children, He wants to insure this propagation for the good of humanity. But He didn’t place in you this tendency towards sensual pleasure contrary to your intelligent nature which should control the proper use of sex, this was due to the fallen nature of man which left him weak of will, and ignorant.

We are all born in this state, thats why we have to be born again (Baptized), and thats why Jesus Christ came, to redeem us from the works of Satan who takes advantage of us through our weaknesses. If we truly realized this truth, and knew what was taking place in our souls, we would be very frightened. Society does not help us which indulges in sexual exploitations, not caring even for the children who are exposed.

You must understand that there is a profound truth and reality that there is an evil force that seeks to destroy you in your weakness, and your habit, which is a strong hold on you. You have become a slave to this force through your passions. Satan is very real, I know this from experience, and this is why Jesus Christ came ,to redeem us from his powers. You must seek His help, as He is the only one who can heal you and restore you, to save you from yourself, and the devil. An encounter with Jesus Christ will solve your problems, once you experience His love for you, other things will fall in place. Humble your self, and ask Him to redeem you from Satan’s works, He desires this more than you for love of you. I’ll pray for you
 
To be absolutely blunt, I’m not sure how far you can get without some level of professional therapy.

Many men started masturbating when they were just a kid, and have been viewing some form of pornography for decades. So much of their emotional life is wrapped up in their habit, and who knows how many things trigger responses in their day-to-day life. Forgive me, but simply appealing to God for more grace is not going to overcome all of that outside of a miraculous intervention. You need to do something natural, too. And the first step is to see a professional who can help you dig deep and give you psychological approaches to become healthy.
 
I think everything that has been recommended thus far is great advice. I’ll share one more that has worked wonders for me. Pray the Rosary. As often as you can.

I’m a 27 year old male. Pornography and masturbation used to be a part of my daily life. Meeting my now-fiance two years ago, by the grace of God, helped me kick the pornography habit almost immediately with the realization of how such a behavior could derail our relationship.

The second part of that was a much tougher (and still occasionally ongoing) battle.

First came the intellectual assertion that the Church is correct in its teaching on masturbation (weeding out the “it doesn’t really hurt anybody” mindset). Books like the one by Pope St. JPII recommended in this thread are wonderful for this.

Next came the frequent recommendation (first encountered here and places like the Catholicism SubReddit on Reddit) recommending the Rosary as a great weapon against vice and sin.

There is a quote by Bishop Hugh Doyle - “No one can live continually in sin and continue to say the Rosary: either they will give up sin or they will give up the Rosary”

It may sound like old Catholic superstition but I can only conclude through experience that it’s true. That’s not to say that I don’t still fall - but I’d say it’s gone from a daily battle to a temptation that pops up once or twice per month, in times of idle hands or in that early morning half-asleep state of consciousness, when inhibitions against sin are lower. If it happens, get back to Confession as soon as possible and get back on the horse! The Blessed Mother will carry you further each time in conforming you to the image of her Divine Son. It won’t be easy by any means, but God’s mercy trumps the sin and His continued grace will help you move, slowly but surely, in the right direction.

Good luck, and don’t get discouraged. I’ll be praying for ya! 👍
 
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