What Cardinal Burke really said about 'resisting' Pope Francis

[Tigg]

That Cardinal Burke is still the object of so much angst and scrutiny mystifies me. I have never found him to be a compelling figure, but somehow he seems to have a propensity for controversy.

Pope Francis wears the ring; Cardinal Burke does not. Humility demands deference to the Vicar of Christ. This is becoming an embarrassment. Cardinal Burke needs to stand down.

Here’s a quote from a blog you may want to think about:

What the media wrote, because of their apparent ill feelings towards anyone seen as conservative or traditional in the Catholic sense, was not fully what he said, was taken tremendously out of context, and there’s a huge possibility for what he said to be misunderstood by people who don’t think critically about his words.

 

[graciew]

Well, the circumstances are a little unusual here. The ball was set rolling by Cardinal Kasper’s proposal regarding communion for the divorced and remarried at the last Synod. I think this is an ongoing discussion frankly at all levels of the Church. Even the Pope has not yet made a decision, correct? He wants (name removed by moderator)ut from the bishops.

I am fine with Cardinal Burke and others expressing their viewpoints on this subject. The subject matter does concern Catholic doctrine and teaching. The Pope has called for openness in discussion.

Have I overlooked something?

Yes , I believe so. The Synod was a protected space where they were asked to speak frankly and listen attentively.
They agreed that they could accept interviews as to what was said not who had said what. Transparency was fostered in this direction and prudence as usual.
I feel comfortable with the ones that silently work with their communities towards October listening to their flock. But that is personal as you have expressed your preferences .
I.would rather have them using their cel phones to dialogue about their disagreements , and I mean this respectfully , cause their understanding is way above our pay grade.But they are Church authorities and I am literally nobody to tell them what to do.

 

[graciew]

Here’s a quote from a blog you may want to think about:

I am glad they are not through with the media. I am. This has turned into an open mic.

 

[kdfphd]

We need to be thankful that the Holy Spirit has chosen Cardinal
Burke to keep us on the straight and narrow. What would we do if it needed two or three prayerful people in a room to have such a communication?

 

[ProVobis]

We need to be thankful that the Holy Spirit has chosen Cardinal
Burke to keep us on the straight and narrow. What would we do if it needed two or three prayerful people in a room to have such a communication?

E pluribus unus?

I presume your post was sarcasm.

 

[Melvin]

Thanks for your wise (name removed by moderator)ut, TIGG!

Dear Tigg,

How true, how true :sad_yes:

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil, who change darkness into light,

and light into darkness, who change bitter into sweet, and sweet into bitter!

Woe to those who are wise in their own sight, and prudent in their own esteem."

Isaiah 5; 20-21…

"Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and

utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.

Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the

prophets who were before you."

**GOD BLESS CARDINAL BURKE!!

My prayers, daily Mass are for Cardinal Burke, Archbishop Cordileone, Bishop Schneider, Archbishop Conley, etc. etc. etc.

May Saint Michael the Archangel protect them all :knight2:

May Our Blessed Mother keep them safe & guide them in their hard hard

paths… **

Kyrie Eleison

Christe Eleison

Thank you, ABYSSINIA for the thread.

 

[Melvin]

So if that is the case then maybe everyone should be asking themselves two question and we would see less of it;

Do you come out in defence of Pope Francis as much as you come out in defence of Cardinal Burke or do you come out in defence of Cardinal Burke as much as you come out in defence of Pope Francis?
Do you praise Pope Francis as much as you praise Cardinal Burke or do you come out in praise of Cardinal Burke as much as you come out in praise of Pope Francis?

I propose a third question: Can a Catholic ever really know the truth?

 

[Melvin]

What a person FEELS about a moral law is irrelevant.

• Most people think not using contraceptives is an impossible burden.
• Many people feel going through a pregnancy instead of having an abortion is an impossible burden.

Should we dilute these teachings so people don’t think the task is impossible?

In a Catholic Wedding, it is made abundantly clear the burden they are imposing on themselves. Vocations are hard, and that’s what makes them worth doing. The Apostles themselves said it was easier not to marry.

If they want to throw it in the toilet, it’s their individual souls in grave danger. If the Church dilutes Jesus’ clear teachings for populism, it puts the souls of her entire flock in danger.

 

[Melvin]

This is the only reason to believe that the synod won’t change the teaching that divorced and remarried Catholics may not receive communion. Not because they don’t want to but because they can’t. Those who accept that the teaching could change apparently believe we cannot know truth, and that what we accept as truth today could turn out to be false tomorrow.

Either a person who is divorced and remarried should be allowed or should not be allowed to receive communion. What we believe today is that he should not. How can we glibly assert that we don’t care which it is, that we are prepared to accept either of two contradictory positions? Beyond that, if we believe something is true today, how can we believe it is false tomorrow and have any confidence that other things we believe true will not also be declared false?

How, in fact, can we believe the Church cannot teach error on faith and morals if she reverses her position here? Doesn’t that mean that either the new position or the old one was …in error?

Ender

 

[Melvin]

Absolutely! I cannot understand why you are badgering LongingSoul … ?

There have been a few reversals of teachings, as the existing times have warranted. Each time, the Spirit has led the Church in a direction that was unknown formerly. In particular, E.E.N.S. This must be understood presently as the Church herself now teaches it, and not as popes in the 12th century wrote regarding it.

Wow…

 

[LongingSoul]

Why do you keep quoting posts without making any contribution to the topic? You are wasting bandwidth and peoples time.

 

[Brendan_64]

No; one leads, the others follow. When their words are not in harmony, then their words do not count the same.

I thought we were called to follow Christ.

None other than Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has since referred to cardinal Burke as a “great cardinal”. Would Benedict really refer to him as a “great cardinal” is he was a man who was disloyal to the Church?

Cardinal Burke is simply stating his loyalty to the Church and what the Church teaches. We need more like him.

 

[_Abyssinia]

VIDEO: Cardinal Burke discusses his new role

 

[Tigg]

VIDEO: Cardinal Burke discusses his new role

Sounds to me like the good Cardinal is taking on his new duties very seriously, and as God demands of His ordained, is doing the very best job he can in being placed in this position. Interesting is that he is one of the major defenders of our faith today and that is also a charism of the Knights of Malta - so indeed, the two do go very well together. God be praised - (Just maybe the Good Lord knows what’s He’s doing after all.) This said to those who thought Burke had gotten a demotion.