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RedSoxFan
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Out of curiosity what Catholic rites can have married priests. Clearly the Latin rite cannot, but what about the other Rites?
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rien
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The Maronites, Ukranians and Romainians. Also the Indian Syro-Malaber.
I think they all have married priests coming from their background. But I am not sure on that.
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Leopard
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All of them can, including the Latin Church, although married Latin priests are the exception.
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rien
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As I thought.
The early church for centuries had married priests and bishops, IMO it would be prudent for the Latin Rite to return to that discipline on priests and bishops and the Eastern Rites to return to it on Bishops.
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Semper_Fi_1
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Which Bishops were married?
And when we speak of priests who were married, we must also qualify that. There were never any priests who were allowed to be married, but there were married men who have been ordained to the Holy Priesthood.
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James_Miller
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With all respect I do not think the Syro-Malabar rite in India has any married priests. The Syro-Malankara rite does not ordain married men. But I think they may have 6 married priests but these were Orthodox priests who converted. So they were received and remain married.
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Hesychios
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This is true.
After the Portuguese Jesuits came they stamped out the practice of married clergy as best that they could, along with some other things. That could be a major reason why the church did not hold together, a huge schism was provoked by the latinizations, resulting in the Orthodox church arising again.
Now it seems, most of the remaining Mar Thoma Christians under Rome are quite satisfied with their Latinized practices (even resisting calls from Rome to return to their root traditions), having used them for generations. The Orthodox are quite satisfied without them.
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bpbasilphx
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I believe the Chaldean Catholic church also practices clerical celibacy, though they will accept married priests from the Assyrian Church (their counterpart).
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bkovacs
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And maybe a future Anglican Rite!.
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Woodstock
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As a point of clarification: whether or not married men may be ordained is determined at a Church level and that’s why the responses have all been Churches (Romanian, Ukrainian, Chaldean, etc), not rites.
Semper Fi’s statement of *never *having an ordained man allowed to marry isn’t technically accurate. Though it is very rare, I am told there have been exceptions for married priests who are widowed with young children to allow them to marry without laicization. I haven’t met one myself, but I have no reason to doubt the sources.
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RedSoxFan
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So I have always wanted to ask this question. Being an American and not being allowed to be a priest in the US how much of a sin would it be to keep you heart catholic, but convert to Anglicanism, then become a married Anglican priest then convert back to Catholicism? This is a hypothetical mind you.And maybe a future Anglican Rite!.
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GerardP
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Ignatius Press has a series of books available that demonstrate how Celibacy is a discipline come down from the Apostles and even in the early Church. Though married men were ordained, once ordained they lived celibate lives.
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GerardP
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How much of a sin? A very, very big sin. God is not mocked. You can’t wiggle through technicalities when it comes to a vocation.
The early martyrs died for refusing to acknowledge false religions. To pretend to deny the Catholic faith would be a scandal and deceptive.
If you can’t deal with or understand celibacy. You are getting a sign from God that you aren’t being called to the priesthood.
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Sure
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I believe the technical answer would be all Catholic rites. Even though it may be extraordinarily rare, a dispensation could be granted as being married is not a total impediment to the reception of Holy Orders.
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Aramis
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At the moment, All rites have some married clerics.
The Roman Rite has married deacons, and a few converts have been ordained to the priesthood, and Orthodox priests trained in the Western Rite Orthodoxy would be able to be accepted into the Roman church by vesting, and be Roman rite, even if married.
Aside from the Romans, one other Sui Iuris church has made a decision to have celibate priests as the norm, but that could change at any time.
The restriction under current practice is that, once ordained to the deaconate one may not contract new marriage without papal permission on a case-by-case basis. Note: all priests are also ordained deacons, first.
The Roman Rite has married deacons, and a few converts have been ordained to the priesthood, and Orthodox priests trained in the Western Rite Orthodoxy would be able to be accepted into the Roman church by vesting, and be Roman rite, even if married.
Aside from the Romans, one other Sui Iuris church has made a decision to have celibate priests as the norm, but that could change at any time.
The restriction under current practice is that, once ordained to the deaconate one may not contract new marriage without papal permission on a case-by-case basis. Note: all priests are also ordained deacons, first.
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Ignatius
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Actually, there are married priests in the Latin Rite. A number of priests and ministers who converted were married. I believe that , in general, all of the other Catholic Churches (they are actually Sui Juris Churches, not just rites) have both married and celibate clergy.
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mschrank
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It’s a discipline, not a dogma. Can’t we just leave it at that? Why all this my dad can beat up your dad type justification?
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RedSoxFan
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So historically in all rites or just the Latin rite? I can understand chaste living by married clerics, but celibate by married clerics seems to violate their marriage vocation.
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RedSoxFan
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Sometimes I like pouring gasoline into the fire. I would move out of the US to be a married priest before I would go Anglican.
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RedSoxFan
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What exactly is a Sui luris church? I’m not familiar with the term.
Thanks!
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