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In What’s right/wrong about distributism I posted a critique of Distributism and invited distributists to refute it. None dared.
We had a couple posters who called themselves Distributists but agreed both with what the article author said was right about Distributism and what was wrong with it.
But there were a few other posters who wanted to attack Laissez-faire economics as the presumptive alternative to Distributism.
The purpose of this thread is to delve into that tangential subject.
I am going to disgree here with the Church on this. But before I do, I’d like to frame that disagreement properly.
We had a couple posters who called themselves Distributists but agreed both with what the article author said was right about Distributism and what was wrong with it.
But there were a few other posters who wanted to attack Laissez-faire economics as the presumptive alternative to Distributism.
The purpose of this thread is to delve into that tangential subject.
I think it is fair to say that the Church has generally taken the view that some regulation is necessary to prevent the rich from abusing the poor and that a Laissez-faire economy would fail to prevent such abuse.39. Paul VI in Populorum Progressio called for the creation of a model of market economy capable of including within its range all peoples and not just the better off. He called for efforts to build a more human world for all, a world in which “all will be able to give and receive, without one group making progress at the expense of the other.” In this way he was applying on a global scale the insights and aspirations contained in Rerum Novarum, written when, as a result of the Industrial Revolution, the idea was first proposed — somewhat ahead of its time — that* the civil order, for its self-regulation, also needed intervention from the State for purposes of redistribution***. - Benedict XVI
More and more, in many countries of America, a system known as “neoliberalism” prevails; based on a purely economic conception of man, this system considers profit and the law of the market as its only parameters, to the detriment of the dignity of and the respect due to individuals and peoples. At times this system has become the ideological justification for certain attitudes and behavior in the social and political spheres leading to the neglect of the weaker members of society. Indeed, the poor are becoming ever more numerous, victims of specific policies and structures which are often unjust. (207) - John Paul II
351. The action of the State and of other public authorities must be consistent with the principle of subsidiarity and create situations favourable to the free exercise of economic activity. It must also be inspired by the principle of solidarity and* establish limits for the autonomy of the parties ***in order to defend those who are weaker. - Compendium
88. Attention must be given also to another matter that is closely connected with the foregoing. Just as the unity of human society cannot be founded on an opposition of classes, so also the right ordering of economic life cannot be left to a free competition of forces. For from this source, as from a poisoned spring, have originated and spread all the errors of individualist economic teaching. Destroying through forgetfulness or ignorance the social and moral character of economic life, it held that economic life must be considered and treated as altogether free from and independent of public authority, because in the market, i.e., in the free struggle of competitors, it would have a principle of self direction which governs it much more perfectly than would the intervention of any created intellect. But free competition, while justified and certainly useful provided it is kept within certain limits, clearly cannot direct economic life - a truth which the outcome of the application in practice of the tenets of this evil individualistic spirit has more than sufficiently demonstrated - Quadragesimo Anno
*for it cannot be denied that its (socialism’s) demands at times come very near those that Christian reformers of society justly insist upon. * - ibid
*Social Conditions in Leo’s Time
- As is well known, the outlook that prevailed on economic matters was for the most part a purely naturalistic one, which denied any correlation between economics and morality. Personal gain was considered the only valid motive for economic activity.** In business the main operative principle was that of free and unrestricted competition.*** Interest on capital, prices—whether of goods or of services—profits and wages, were to be determined by the purely mechanical application of the laws of the market place. Every precaution was to be taken to prevent the civil authority from intervening in any way in economic matters. The status of trade unions varied in different countries. They were either forbidden, tolerated, or recognized as having private legal personality only.
So, in conclusion, not only is state regulation needed to maintain a truly free enterprise where the rich don’t abuse the poor, but it seems absurd to imply that there wasn’t ever a time where an unregulated market or practically unregulated market existed, both of which the Church doesn’t seem to view very highly.
- JPXXIII
I am going to disgree here with the Church on this. But before I do, I’d like to frame that disagreement properly.