What Chrsitian denomination do you disagree with most?

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Lisa N:
Nope. Matthew Shepherd was murdered in a drug deal gone bad. Although he became the poster child for homosexual bigotry run amok, the reality is that he was engaged in an illegal and dangerous activity involving very violent people. IOW he wasn’t some guy just walking down the street minding his own business and killed because he was perceived to be homosexual. No his death was not excusable but I really don’t think he should be held up as some kind of martyr to the homosexual agenda.

I am sure Matthew Shepherd isn’t the only young man who’s the subject of an inflammatory website and protest signs. Some people are just hateful and mean. Their behavior is inexcusable but the reality is this is the lunatic fringe. A handful of nuts does not make a religion and no one takes them seriously.

FWIW I think Matthew Shepherd’s death should serve more as a warning to avoid the kind of behavior that put him in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Lisa N
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Wow Lisa, thanks for letting me know about this. I was so duped! I had no idea he was a drug dealer… I thought he was just some poor kid who struggled with homosexuality. And you are right… that line of work can certainly get you killed. Just goes to show you can’t believe (much) of what you hear from the liberal media.

And as a side note, I was not defending his “lifestyle” - I just wouldn’t want anyone at MY funeral holding signs with MY sins listed on them. That is mean beyond words & at that point he sits in God’s judgement so why bother?
 
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BlindSheep:
Well, I don’t know if it fits the criteria of “disagree with most”, but the ones that most upset me are the CINOs - Catholics in name only. People in a state of mortal sin going to communion, what more direct attack on our Lord could there be? It makes me cringe. Religious ed teachers spreading error - Priests who lead their flock astray - the most dangerous group of Christians are those who call themselves “Catholic” when they are anything but.
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It seems to me that only about 5-10% (or less) of the people in my church have been to confession recently enough to be avoiding sacrilege… (i.e. haven’t even been there in years so as to be keeping with the 2nd precept of the church - to go to confession at least once a year).
 
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Malachi4U:
When a JW come to your door invite them in and witness to them. Start with John Chapter 6 and the Eucharist.
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One JW fellow I work with once told me that when he knocks on Baptist’s doors, they invite him in and start ministering to him. He said, “That’s not right! I’m going there to minister to them!.” Apparently it annoys him. 😃

So any way, some insight. The JW’s I know tell me that they minister this way because that is how Jesus did it - walking from place to place and ministering. That seems like a real nice way to put it.

I still find ways to witness to them, though. I explain the Trinity, deity of Christ and Catholic Church practices to them and THEY get annoyed! Talk about turnaround being fair play! LOL!

All in all, they try to live up to Christian values. If I had to choose between living next to a JW family or a crack house, I’d choose the JW family anyday.

And believe it or not, they have a theology that agrees with Catholicism about 80% of the time.

Subrosa
 
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Subrosa:
One JW fellow I work with once told me that when he knocks on Baptist’s doors, they invite him in and start ministering to him. He said, “That’s not right! I’m going there to minister to them!.” Apparently it annoys him. 😃

So any way, some insight. The JW’s I know tell me that they minister this way because that is how Jesus did it - walking from place to place and ministering. That seems like a real nice way to put it.

I still find ways to witness to them, though. I explain the Trinity, deity of Christ and Catholic Church practices to them and THEY get annoyed! Talk about turnaround being fair play! LOL!

All in all, they try to live up to Christian values. If I had to choose between living next to a JW family or a crack house, I’d choose the JW family anyday.

And believe it or not, they have a theology that agrees with Catholicism about 80% of the time.

Subrosa
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This reminds me of an incident that happened in this apartment complex I used to live in. The couple who lived above us was Baptist. He was studying to be a minister. She was an ex-Catholic. We had an odd relationship. I got along pretty well with her. He seemed more interested in going head to head with me Bible in hand (I swear that thing was glued to his hand). Anyway, one day some JW’s were knnocking on doors in the complex. I guess the guy upstairs knew they were coming. I know there were a few from his church in the complex, so he probably had a heads up. He came down with is Bible and waited for them. They went at it head to head for like an hour in the courtyard. I drew a crowd. It was quite amazing. It was kind of fun to watch. I was tempted to jump in there too. That would have been quite interesting.

As for which denomination I disagree with the most. I’m not sure. I think any one that bases their faith on hatred of another.
 
The Mormons. I had an Elder come to my door the other day. He said he was from the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints and I said, ‘Oh, Mormons?’ (he seemed slightly miffed that I knew who they were). I explained to him about my conversion to Catholicism. He asked how old I was and i said 17, and he said it was impressive to be thinking about such things at a young age. Anyway, my mum was out so he left me his cell number and said to call if I wanted to hear anymore about it. So I decided to find some more abour the religion/cult whatever you will call it so I started on catholic.com and found some things that I really disagreed with, like that we can become gods (little ‘g’, presumably), that God the Father actually came to Earth and had intercourse with the Blessed Virgin (which deeply offended me, by the way,) and simple things like continuing revelation. Just didnt make much sense. Still, to each his own…
 
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CreosMary:
All of them…
The Holy Roman Catholic Church is not a denomination, it is the only truth!!!/QUOTE]

Are not all true Christians, regardless of denomination, part of God’s one Church, the church of believers.

Definition of true Christians: one who lives by God’s word and Jesus’s example.

I am a Catholic myself and the Holy Roman Catholic Church is not “the only truth.” Jesus is the truth.

Jesus says in John 14:6
“For I am the way, the truth, and the life.”
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carol marie:
Wow Lisa, thanks for letting me know about this. I was so duped! I had no idea he was a drug dealer… I thought he was just some poor kid who struggled with homosexuality. And you are right… that line of work can certainly get you killed. Just goes to show you can’t believe (much) of what you hear from the liberal media. ?
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You and many others. Apparently the homosexual angle was actually what the perpetrators originally claimed was the reason they retaliated against Shepherd. I suspect they were trying to claim self defense or some such thing. So with the usual rush to judgment the media grabbed the headline which obviously received national attention. Imagine 60 minutes or CBS news reporting on a drug deal gone bad…won’t happen. So it was a matter of wanting to get the scoop, a couple of scum bums wanting to get off with a light sentence and realizing too late that they’d been duped as well.
carol marie:
And as a side note, I was not defending his “lifestyle” - I just wouldn’t want anyone at MY funeral holding signs with MY sins listed on them. That is mean beyond words & at that point he sits in God’s judgement so why bother?
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No, I don’t think anyone would defend the people carrying the hateful signs. OTOH the homosexual activist world was all too happy to exploit the situation to try to promote the theory that there is rampant violence against homosexuals. Not true and now they are having to backpedal a bit. Unfortunately your comment demonstrates that it’s a lot easier to promote an erroneous image than to effectively correct bad information. You know how that goes, a headline on page one is corrected on the backside of the obits…

Lisa N
 
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Subrosa:
One JW fellow I work with once told me that when he knocks on Baptist’s doors, they invite him in and start ministering to him. He said, “That’s not right! I’m going there to minister to them!.” Apparently it annoys him. 😃

I still find ways to witness to them, though. I explain the Trinity, deity of Christ and Catholic Church practices to them and THEY get annoyed! Talk about turnaround being fair play! LOL!

Subrosa
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Works every time. When they arrive at my door, I love telling them that I have been waiting for them to arrive so we could discuss why they don’t follow the Vicar of Christ. I use up so much of their time that neighbors have expressed gratitude.
 
…the “if you don’t believe just like me your doomed religion” and that includes a lot of “so-called orthodox catholics”… IMHO
 
Are not all true Christians, regardless of denomination, part of God’s one Church, the church of believers.
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There is no invisible church of all true believers if that is what you mean. We are all part of G-d’s one Church - the Catholic Church - but non-Catholics, are our separated bretheren. I’m not saying there is no salvation for them, I believe there is. I’m just clarifying that most non-Catholics believe in an “invisible Church of all true believers” and Catholics believe in the Catholic Church.
Definition of true Christians: one who lives by God’s word and Jesus’s example.
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yup
I am a Catholic myself and the Holy Roman Catholic Church is not “the only truth.” Jesus is the truth.
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We all know that Jesus is the truth. I think the point was that the Catholic Church is THE church - not this other invisible church.
Jesus says in John 14:6
“For I am the way, the truth, and the life.”
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:amen: Don’t forget that the Catholic Church is based on what Jesus taught. The Church is the Body and He is the head.
 
Definitely Mormons for me. It just sounds like such a crazy, made up bunch of **** to me and I truly believe that Joseph Smith was just a shyster. It just sounds like they just made up all of this like a fairy tale to suit their own purposes.
 
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Chazemataz:
I do not like the Jehovah’s wittnesses. They show up at our door, and they do NOT shut up!Whenever they come to our house, this is usually what happens: “Well, I have my own beleif and you have yours, so please leave.” My dad says. “Oh, but I bring good news!” JW says. “Goodbye, sir/mam.” “Wait, brother, for I carry tidings of great joy!” “GOODBYE! Let me eat my dinner with my family!” “But you must know the truth!” Shuts door in JW’s face.

I liked and respected the Mormon religion (infact I was even thinking of converting to a mormon), up untill I read their doctrines carefully… stuff like :“there are many Gods”, “There is a mother goddes”, “God was once a human, as we are now,” ect.
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The two I met were quite OK actually - they did shut up 🙂 We had a nice talk.​

Anyway, for me, it’s the Unitarians (I don’t think JWs and Mormons are doctrinally Christian: or SDAs, or Christian Scientists - this does not mean they can’t have a genuine Christian life, but that is God’s business.) ##
 
I guess it depends on which JW’s you happen to run into. The ones I have encountered require much patience because they are openly anti-Catholic. All are different I am sure, but their religion seems to teach that Catholics are the devil, and they don’t seem to want to listen to reason when you try to refute their claims.
 
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Peace-bwu:
I would have to say I disagree with Southern Baptists quite a bit. The SBs I have met have been quite racist and anti=Catholic. My close friend who was raised SB once told me that she was taught that only SBaptists go to heaven and that only whites at that. Catholics are among the long list going to Hell

I agree with the assessment of Baptists. Many of the White Baptists that I encounter are Anti-Catholic, racist, hypocritical and super opinionated. They think that they are the right and everyone else is wrong, and that they are the only ones going to Heaven. I am Black and live in the buckle of the Protestant Bible Belt. However, the White Baptists don’t have the market cornered on bigotry. I went to a service with a girlfriend (whose denomination is Missionary Baptist) and the pastor went on an anti-Catholic, anti-non-denominational rant. If it wouldn’t have been disrespectful, I would have walked out!

Jehovah’s Witnesses and Nation of Islam members are also annoying.
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For me, any Christian that goes against the Nicene Creed, I do not consider Christian. Those I disagree with the most, such as the JWs and the Mormons. I love the people and their surprising dedication to their churches, but their theology is quite unusual to me, especially with the Mormons wanting to become their own deities of their own universes and they never ever pray to Jesus himself and such like that…

Heh, I have more experiences with Mormons by attending their seminaries and learning their scripture…
 
Just an FYI…JW’s and LDS ARE NOT Christian denominations…It is actually very disturbing to read the number of post in which Catholics in good faith actually believe that JW’s or LDS are Christian denominations…Please read the truth about these cultish groups…Catholic.com is a good place to start.

Anywho…I would say the Christians I disagree with most are Southern Baptist…as a former S Baptist, I can tell you that they are missing the biggest message in The Gospels…LOVE…they are too busy passing judgements on people and deciding who will or will not go to hell, it makes me sick. For instance, I have heard it said that people that drink beer will go to hell, smokers will go to hell, Catholics will go to hell for worshiping false Gods and the Pope is the anti-Christ etc…They need to stop playing God for 2 minutes and try to really understand the message of God found within The Gospels…I mean, according to some of them, Ghandi went to hell because he wasn’t a Christian…which is nonsense…if there is one person, next to JPII that I know made it to heaven, it is Ghandi, despite being a Hindu

Also…I know my opinion is not representative of ALL southern baptists…but I know it fits a majority of them.
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Chazemataz:
I do not like the Jehovah’s wittnesses. They show up at our door, and they do NOT shut up!Whenever they come to our house, this is usually what happens: “Well, I have my own beleif and you have yours, so please leave.” My dad says. “Oh, but I bring good news!” JW says. “Goodbye, sir/mam.” “Wait, brother, for I carry tidings of great joy!” “GOODBYE! Let me eat my dinner with my family!” “But you must know the truth!” Shuts door in JW’s face.

I liked and respected the Mormon religion (infact I was even thinking of converting to a mormon), up untill I read their doctrines carefully… stuff like :“there are many Gods”, “There is a mother goddes”, “God was once a human, as we are now,” ect.
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The Holiness Pentecostals as far as worship goes.

The Anglicans in the US and the minority elsewhere as far as moral theology goes.
 
I agree with Kirk, Holiness Pentecostals. They are extremely wacked. I think this is the denomination where some Churches in Applachia handle snakes.

Anyone who believes that handling a rattlesnake is your way to the Kingdom has a serious problem.
 
I hear ya…I classify them in the same group of craziness as the suicide bombers.
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uofl19:
I agree with Kirk, Holiness Pentecostals. They are extremely wacked. I think this is the denomination where some Churches in Applachia handle snakes.

Anyone who believes that handling a rattlesnake is your way to the Kingdom has a serious problem.
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The hard core fundamentalist, who think that everyone is toast except for only those folks who believe exactly like they do, are by far the creepiest.

Catholics, Muslims, Jews, etc are all toast regardless of what they have done, or have not done to merit such a fate. By following the Catholic Church or by not accepting Jesus in just the correct manner, everyone else is crispy critters.

Only by saying the magical words in the exact same style and tone can you be saved. They can only see God sending billions upon billion of folks to eternal damnation, only those who listen to their speal are lucky enough to be saved. There may be only a few thousand of them in Heaven, the rest of us are toast. That does not bother them.

And this makes perfect sense to them, after all it is written exactly that way in their Bible. Never mind that it makes no sense that a good and loving God would act like this. I’m sure if you looked through one of their ears you could probably see clear through to the other side.

I pray that they can overcome their nonsensical philosophy and join the true Church that teaches that God is the loving and good hearted God who accepts all peoples and all faiths, so long as there is charity and goodness in their hearts.

wc
 
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