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Lazerlike42
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My question is prompted by this issue as it relates specifically to weddings, but it is a more general question.
As I was reading the blogs today, I came across a post on Fr. Z’s blog about wedding music, and what is and is not perrmitted. In reading the comments, I learned that the famous Bridal March from Lohengrin is often not permitted in Catholic weddings. After a reading the comments there, various websites, and various threads from this forum, it seems that two reasons are given for this:
. So far as I can tell, that which makes a piece sacred or liturgical is that it was composed for that purpose, which leads to the rather absurd notion that a man may compose the same piece, with the same notes, harmonies, orchestrations, and so forth, and yet if he begins with the intention that it be liturgical it is so, whereas if begins with the intention that it be secular, then it is not.
Of course, the Church lists some criteria for sacred or liturgical music, such as that it have beauty and that it not be trite. However, there are many very beautiful and non-trite works which were composed for secular purposes, yet would fit in perfectly at a liturgical event - for example, Beethoven’s Ode to Joy.
And this brings me to a second aspect of the question. One of the threads here on CAF suggested this really quite wonderful part of a church web site which gives much advice for wedding music, including allowing individuals to listen to a wide variety of possible selections. It appears to be a very doctrinally orthodox church, and it also expresses all of the same ideas about sacred and liturgical music that I have seen elsewhere. However, when I look at the selections suggested on the page, they are all beautiful, yes, but many of them were composed for expressly secular purposes, just like Lohengrin - for example, Handel’s Fireworks and Water music, or Pachelbel’s famous Canon in D. Thus, I sense either a deep hypocrisy or something which I am quite entirely missing.
In terms of both weddings, and more generally liturgy in general, I would greatly appreciate any help in understanding this better.
God bless
As I was reading the blogs today, I came across a post on Fr. Z’s blog about wedding music, and what is and is not perrmitted. In reading the comments, I learned that the famous Bridal March from Lohengrin is often not permitted in Catholic weddings. After a reading the comments there, various websites, and various threads from this forum, it seems that two reasons are given for this:
- The march is secular music, and is not sacred or liturgical
- Lohengrin is an opera containing some immoral material, making the use of a piece from it inappropriate.
Of course, the Church lists some criteria for sacred or liturgical music, such as that it have beauty and that it not be trite. However, there are many very beautiful and non-trite works which were composed for secular purposes, yet would fit in perfectly at a liturgical event - for example, Beethoven’s Ode to Joy.
And this brings me to a second aspect of the question. One of the threads here on CAF suggested this really quite wonderful part of a church web site which gives much advice for wedding music, including allowing individuals to listen to a wide variety of possible selections. It appears to be a very doctrinally orthodox church, and it also expresses all of the same ideas about sacred and liturgical music that I have seen elsewhere. However, when I look at the selections suggested on the page, they are all beautiful, yes, but many of them were composed for expressly secular purposes, just like Lohengrin - for example, Handel’s Fireworks and Water music, or Pachelbel’s famous Canon in D. Thus, I sense either a deep hypocrisy or something which I am quite entirely missing.
In terms of both weddings, and more generally liturgy in general, I would greatly appreciate any help in understanding this better.
God bless