What criteria constitute a eucharistic celebration?

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…The operative word in the policy with regard to prisons is “maybe.” Yet, “maybe” in the policy still doesn’t mean that one can lead this service w/o the bishop’s explicit commissioning to do so. At the risk of being repetative, only the bishop can determine if SCAP is appropriate, and only he can appoint someone to lead this service. …

Do keep in mind though that the service itself presumes that the lay leader is not attending Sunday Mass.
We won’t make this personal so all I will say is that I am in complete communion with my bishop.

With all respect, I believe you might re-read Diocese of Richmond’s SCAP policy. Although the subheading is “Maybe” for the category “serves special needs group,” the operative phrase with reference to this discussion is in the bullet point “e.g. prison population.” That is, the bishop decided that this special needs group, prison populations, is specifically identified as qualifying for SCAP.

At the risk of being “scribe” like, I would ask you to think through this inclusion of prisoners as a special needs group. I don’t know about Richmond but I do know that no prison in our diocese is allowed a tabernacle for reserve of the Blessed Sacrament, and knowing intimately the federal prison system, doubt that any tabernacle exists in a federal prison in the diocese of Richmond. Do you know of one? If not, then the bishop was obviously aware that Holy Communion would be brought into the prison by an EMHC on Sunday as the SCAP rubrics include the words and actions for both a deacon or a lay leader.

In the majority of, if not all, instances that same EMHC would meet his or her Sunday obligation before or after his or her priosn ministry and receive Communion at that Mass (#1388). Therefore, I think your inference, (unless you authored the document): “… the service itself presumes that the lay leader is not attending Sunday Mass” is unreasonable. So one of three things is true:

• the rubric in SCAP regarding a lay person conducting the Communiuon Rite is incomplete (which I believe it is) lacking instruction to not self-communicate if he or she has or intends to attend Mass that liturgical day.
• or the EMHC following the rubric would self-communicate and, necessarily, violate Canon 907
• or SCAP is a eucharistic celebration​
 
• the rubric in SCAP regarding a lay person conducting the Communiuon Rite is incomplete (which I believe it is) lacking instruction to not self-communicate if he or she has or intends to attend Mass that liturgical day.
• or the EMHC following the rubric would self-communicate and, necessarily, violate Canon 907
• or SCAP is a eucharistic celebration​
Make that Canon 917!
 
1• the rubric in SCAP regarding a lay person conducting the Communiuon Rite is incomplete (which I believe it is) lacking instruction to not self-communicate if he or she has or intends to attend Mass that liturgical day.
2• or the EMHC following the rubric would self-communicate and, necessarily, violate Canon 907
3• or SCAP is a eucharistic celebration
I think we have shown that #3 is not true. #2 seems unreasonable. #1 seems most likely. I think at this point you should bring this up with your Bishop or the head of your diocesan liturgical commission.
 
We won’t make this personal so all I will say is that I am in complete communion with my bishop.

With all respect, I believe you might re-read Diocese of Richmond’s SCAP policy. Although the subheading is “Maybe” for the category “serves special needs group,” the operative phrase with reference to this discussion is in the bullet point “e.g. prison population.” That is, the bishop decided that this special needs group, prison populations, is specifically identified as qualifying for SCAP.

At the risk of being “scribe” like, I would ask you to think through this inclusion of prisoners as a special needs group. I don’t know about Richmond but I do know that no prison in our diocese is allowed a tabernacle for reserve of the Blessed Sacrament, and knowing intimately the federal prison system, doubt that any tabernacle exists in a federal prison in the diocese of Richmond. Do you know of one? If not, then the bishop was obviously aware that Holy Communion would be brought into the prison by an EMHC on Sunday as the SCAP rubrics include the words and actions for both a deacon or a lay leader.

In the majority of, if not all, instances that same EMHC would meet his or her Sunday obligation before or after his or her priosn ministry and receive Communion at that Mass (#1388). Therefore, I think your inference, (unless you authored the document): “… the service itself presumes that the lay leader is not attending Sunday Mass” is unreasonable. So one of three things is true:

• the rubric in SCAP regarding a lay person conducting the Communiuon Rite is incomplete (which I believe it is) lacking instruction to not self-communicate if he or she has or intends to attend Mass that liturgical day.
• or the EMHC following the rubric would self-communicate and, necessarily, violate Canon 907
• or SCAP is a eucharistic celebration​
I’m not trying to make it personal. I’m merely pointing out what the policy itself (as well as the liturgical laws of the Church) say with regard to this:

I’ll quote the policy itself:
  1. If a community cannot participate in the celebration of Mass nearby, they should assemble for Sunday worship in their own community, under the leadership of those who have been designated, formed, and commissioned by the bishop.
As I’ve said from the beginning, if you have been commissioned by the bishop to do this service, then by all means you should do it. On the other hand, if you have not been “commissioned by the bishop” then I fail to see how you can interpret what you are doing as being within the policy. Please explain that to me because I don’t understand it.

I also don’t understand how the bishop wrote the word “maybe” in the policy, but you interpret that as an absolute to apply to prison ministry. Prison ministry is a “maybe” to be determined by the bishop himself. If he wanted the policy to be interpreted as always applying to prison ministry, then he would have put it into the first category of “yes” rather than the third category of “maybe.”

Again, please understand that you are beginning with the false premise that SCAP is intended for prison ministry, and then presenting your position from that assumption. That’s not what SCAP is about. SCAP is intended for parishes (or missions, etc) which have no priest. It may or may not be appropriate for SCAP to be used at a prison, even though this isn’t the original intention of the ritual. This is a decision for the bishop to make, but it’s not something which can be done without his explicit mandate. If there’s no mandate from the bishop, then SCAP is illicit. The policy of the diocese of Richmond does not say that SCAP is to be used in prisons, it says “maybe” and that “maybe” still has to be interpreted by the bishop himself (or at least his designee such as the director of Liturgy or a vicar general). The policy is quite clear on that point.

When canon 917 says “Eucharistic Celebration” that refers to the Mass. That was your original question. One who has already received Communion cannot receive again on that same day unless the second time is at a Mass or is Viaticum.
 
I’m not trying to make it personal. I’m merely pointing out what the policy itself (as well as the liturgical laws of the Church) say with regard to this:

I’ll quote the policy itself:
  1. If a community cannot participate in the celebration of Mass nearby, they should assemble for Sunday worship in their own community, under the leadership of those who have been designated, formed, and commissioned by the bishop.
As I’ve said from the beginning, if you have been commissioned by the bishop to do this service, then by all means you should do it. On the other hand, if you have not been “commissioned by the bishop” then I fail to see how you can interpret what you are doing as being within the policy. Please explain that to me because I don’t understand it.
The Bishop of Richmond’s policy, although perhaps informative, does not instruct any other bishop. Only the Holy See may instruct the local ordinary. So your confusion is understandable when you write, “I fail to see how you can interpret what you are doing as being within the policy” since you do not know my bishop’s policy. As to what I am doing, I have posted already:
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I conduct two Sunday sessions of the Liturgy of the Word with Holy Communion (LTWWHC) at two different facilities (security levels) at a federal prison. To meet my duties at prison, logistically, I must attend the Saturday evening Mass at my parish and, I believe, should receive Communion with my fellow parishioners. (See CCC #1388).
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I will pray on it.
My bishop has commissioned my minisry and his Director of the Office of Worship has instructed me.
I also don’t understand how the bishop wrote the word “maybe” in the policy, but you interpret that as an absolute to apply to prison ministry. Prison ministry is a “maybe” to be determined by the bishop himself. If he wanted the policy to be interpreted as always applying to prison ministry, then he would have put it into the first category of “yes” rather than the third category of “maybe.”.
The Bishop of Richmond’s policy as regards “Maybe” situations seems unambiguous to me. The policy identifies three categories: “Yes”, “No”, and “Maybe.” In explaining the “Maybe” category, the policy identfies “special needs groups.” The policy states (exempli gratia, for example) that “prison poulations” is such a “special needs group” elevating “prison populations” to the “Yes” category. How can you see it any other way?
Again, please understand that you are beginning with the false premise that SCAP is intended for prison ministry, and then presenting your position from that assumption.
That would be a misinterpretation of my postings. SCAP, in the diocese of Richmond, is intended for special needs groups which specifically include prison populations. As I recently posted, the rubrics in SCAP clearly show that as it was not written for such use and is in need of revision.
That’s not what SCAP is about. SCAP is intended for parishes (or missions, etc) which have no priest. It may or may not be appropriate for SCAP to be used at a prison, even though this isn’t the original intention of the ritual.
What is at stake here, I believe, is protecting the Mass from *potential *confusion with the LTWWHC. I think efforts to protect are inordinate when those policies designed to prevent ***potential ***confusion actually withhold the Eucharist from the faithful. The bishops need to do more work in this area. Do you agree?

As to focusing on SCAP, as written, it is the wrong liturgy for conducting Communion Service away from a Catholic Church on Sunday. But what other formal liturgy exists when it is Sunday, there is no priest available, and the faithful wish to receive Eucharist and cannot come to church?
This is a decision for the bishop to make, but it’s not something which can be done without his explicit mandate. If there’s no mandate from the bishop, then SCAP is illicit. The policy of the diocese of Richmond does not say that SCAP is to be used in prisons, it says “maybe” and that “maybe” still has to be interpreted by the bishop himself (or at least his designee such as the director of Liturgy or a vicar general). The policy is quite clear on that point.
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We’ve beaten the Richmond policy enough. Do you have a pastoral response as opposed to the legalistic canonical response?
When canon 917 says “Eucharistic Celebration” that refers to the Mass. That was your original question. One who has already received Communion cannot receive again on that same day unless the second time is at a Mass or is Viaticum.
No that was not my question. Read the post heading, please" “Re: What criteria constitute a eucharistic celebration?”

I didn’t question the Mass as a “eucharistic celebration.” In fact, I declared that it most certainly is! I asked what criteria define a “eucharistic celebration”; no more, no less.

Peace,
O’Malley
 
Do you have a pastoral response as opposed to the legalistic canonical response? … I asked what criteria define a “eucharistic celebration”; no more, no less.
I realize I’m putting two sentences together that were not intended to be linked, but if the core of this thread is “what criteria constitute a eucharistic celebration?” then I think in the end, your question will be answered with a “legalistic, canonical response.” Just because a “pastoral” decision is made does not mean it is an appropriate or correct one.

I really think you should ask your Bishop or diocesan liturgical commission for an answer to your question, or to the question “is SCAP a eucharistic celebration”, and require the same support for their answer that you are asking from us. I say this because a Bishop could answer “yes, [in this situation] SCAP is a Eucharistic celebration” out of a desire to be pastoral, and yet be completely incorrect in his judgment.
 
The Bishop of Richmond’s policy, although perhaps informative, does not instruct any other bishop. Only the Holy See may instruct the local ordinary. So your confusion is understandable when you write, “I fail to see how you can interpret what you are doing as being within the policy” since you do not know my bishop’s policy. As to what I am doing, I have posted already:

My bishop has commissioned my minisry and his Director of the Office of Worship has instructed me.
That’s the first time you’ve said that you have been “commissioned.” Until now, you haven’t said that. However, in order to conduct SCAP one must be very specifically appointed to do so–even being commissioned a temporary Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion doesn’t mean that one can do SCAP without the specific mandate from the bishop. This is universal law, and applies to all dioceses in the world.
The Bishop of Richmond’s policy as regards “Maybe” situations seems unambiguous to me. The policy identifies three categories: “Yes”, “No”, and “Maybe.” In explaining the “Maybe” category, the policy identfies “special needs groups.” The policy states (exempli gratia, for example) that “prison poulations” is such a “special needs group” elevating “prison populations” to the “Yes” category. How can you see it any other way?
Because the bishop put prison mininistry into the category of “maybe” but you yourself have moved it into the category of “yes.” That’s pretty clear–in fact, that’s exactly what you wrote in the above quote. It’s not up to you to “correct” what the bishop has written. If he wanted it in the category of “yes” he would not have put it into the category of “maybe.” No matter how you justify moving it, the fact remains that you, not the bishop, have moved it.
That would be a misinterpretation of my postings. SCAP, in the diocese of Richmond, is intended for special needs groups which specifically include prison populations. As I recently posted, the rubrics in SCAP clearly show that as it was not written for such use and is in need of revision.
No, you’re changing the policy. It doesn’t “specifically” include prison ministry, it “maybe” includes prison ministry.
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We’ve beaten the Richmond policy enough. Do you have a pastoral response as opposed to the legalistic canonical response?
No that was not my question. Read the post heading, please" “Re: What criteria constitute a eucharistic celebration?”
I didn’t question the Mass as a “eucharistic celebration.” In fact, I declared that it most certainly is! I asked what criteria define a “eucharistic celebration”; no more, no less.
Peace,
O’Malley
At this point, several posters (including myself) have already answered the question. When canon 917 says “Eucharistic Celebration” that refers to the Mass, only the Mass, and nothing but the Mass (unless it’s Good Friday, but that’s not relevant). Apparently, you aren’t satisfied with the answer, but that won’t change it. A communion service (including SCAP) does not constitute a “Eucharistic Celebration” as the term is used in the canon.

My pastoral response is what I posted from the very beginning (the first time I posted on this thread). Here it is again:

SCAP is only licitly employed when the bishop of the diocese has specifically mandated it’s use. I will add that since the prison itself is (apparently) within the diocese of Richmond, then the only way SCAP may be used is if the bishop of Richmond (or his delegate, such as a vicar general) has very specifically mandated that SCAP be used. If the bishop of Richmond has not very specifically mandated that SCAP be used in that particular place, then SCAP is illicit.

If the bishop of the diocese where the prison is located has commissioned you (or anyone else) very specifically to conduct SCAP, then by all means it is licit, and should be done.

Canon 917 says that Communion may only be received a second time in the same day if that second time is at Mass. Therefore, if one receives Communion at Mass and then later on that same liturgical day, either conducts or attends a service where Holy Communion is distributed (regardless of what it’s called), such a person may not receive Communion again.

If you have not been commissioned specifically to do SCAP, but instead have been appointed by a priest to take Communion to the inmates, then the appropriate ritual would be to the one designed for taking Communion to those unable to attend Mass. Such a ritual can be found in several places, including the book “Pastoral Care of the Sick” which I mention only because it’s the most common and easiest to find.

Please understand that I’m truly trying to help you here with this situation.

Here’s the bottom line:
If the bishop of the place has said “do SCAP” then do SCAP. If he hasn’t specifically said it, then don’t do SCAP.

If you don’t do SCAP, but a priest has deputed you to take Communion to the inmates, then use the appropriate ritual which can be found in Pastoral Care of the Sick. Even though the title of the book doesn’t apply, the ritual does. If you need other sources, say so and I or someone else will provide them.

If you receive Communion at Mass on a given day, you cannot receive Communion again on that same day during any service other than a second Mass.

I truly hope this helps, because that’s my only motivation here: to explain what is pastorally and canonically appropriate.
 
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