Becasue GOD did exactly what GOD desired:
What I find Strange given the accuracy of the Bible, is that very very few still consider why we have this all now available
PJM;13478661:
I DIDJust moments ago: Post # 322:thumbsup:
God Bless you,
Patrick
CAUTION
So eaxtly where did it say they should conspire to KILL JESUS the same Jesus you eariler said Cf. Jesus never did anything to THEM" or some such:shrug:
Right. He didn’t dislike all pharisees. He loved Nicodemus. But he went to speak to Jesus in the evening when it was dark because he probably didn’t want to be seen speaking to Him. The pharisees in Jerusalem were particularly against Jesus because they felt He was going to “dethrone” them. They felt very intimidated by Him but knew He was, somehow, teaching with an authority not seen before. Remember the story of when He got left behind at the Temple at Passover time and He was teaching in the temple? He was only 12!
QUOTE]It’s my contention that we are saved by Jesus’ sacrifice on he cross not by whether or not we are able to keep all the rules. Which is an idea I’ve encountered here and also in life. It’s a concept that some are just not willing to understand or accept.
Can it be for dissemination? Yes. I think so.What I find Strange given the accuracy of the Bible, is that very very few still consider why we have this all now available
Regards Tony
Let me answer you this way
Sorry to brreak the news to you; BUT you CAN"T be a “catholic” and hold to this VERY Protestant positioning::tsktsk:So as a “CATHOLIC” you hold to the heresy of OSAS
Wow! Has it occurred to you that you may be misunderstanding.
Wannano;13478375:
I therefore, a prisoner in the Lord, beseech you that you walk worthy of the vocation in which you are called, With all humility and mildness, with patience, supporting one another in charity. Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. [4] One body and one Spirit[MEANS just one Church]; as you are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, one faith, Means exactly that: Just One set of faith beliefs]one baptism. One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in us all. [7] But to every one of us is given grace, [Here this means for RIGHT understanding] according to the measure of the giving of Christ."
Consequently then all Christian faiths outside of the Catholic Church are to varying degrees actually and factually in competition with Jesus Christ, who accomplished exactly what He set out to do:
Create One New Church; that had His One True faith in its fullness [the exclusive Key to heavens One Gate]
Even God my FRIEND can only have a single set of Faith beliefs; can only have one right and full, and true understanding of what the Bible actually IS teaching. Which is in great part why “Just One” is Divine Providence. Jesus knowing man’s propensity to “Do MY own thing”; knew well that if He choose “Just One true God, faith and Church”; that man ought to be able to understand that action as BEING His Divine Will.
So please don’t take it personally.
I am simply exposing God’s necessarily singular truth.
God Bless you, Pray much!
Patrick
I read strange things from you PJM.
Jesus Christ in competition with Himself.
- Consequently then all Christian faiths outside of the Catholic Church are to varying degrees actually and factually in competition with Jesus Christ, who accomplished exactly what He set out to do:
I have no words left to speak.
GOD has a single set of faith beliefs.
- Even God my FRIEND can only have a single set of Faith beliefs.
GOD has a single set of faith beliefs.
I still don’t get it. I thought God WAS our faith, our hope, our grace, our justification, our sanctification and, ultimately, our glorification.
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My reply:
Dear Fran, you have considered why the web technology is available and it is great for dissemination, my remark is how and why it became available for this.
PJM,My reply:
CCC #1271 Baptism constitutes the foundation of communion among all Christians, including those** who are not yet in full communion with the Catholic Church**: “For men who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in some, though imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church. Justified by faith in Baptism, [they] are incorporated into Christ;** they therefore have a right to be called Christians**, and with good reason are accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church.” “Baptism therefore constitutes the sacramental bond of unity existing among all who through it are reborn.”
They have a right to be called ‘Christian’s’ NOT Catholics
They are to differing degrees NOT in “communion”; which means they still hold on to their versions of Christ One TRUE set of faith beliefs.
And Yes and Certainly we ARE Brethren THROUGH Baptism with water & the Holy Spirit: John 3 & Mt. 28: 18-19… but this is NOT saying; implying OR Teaching that we are ALL Equal in God’s view. Such is a practical, and a Moral IMPOSSIBILITY:shrug:
We should love them, BUT NOT allow THEM to didcate God’s version of their truth and at best incomplete; and often just wrong faith beliefs. Which MY FRIEND you seem to have done
God Bless you,
Patrick
Regarding my post no. 311
in which I state that even non catholics, or those outside the church
are saved:
MY REPLY to FRan along with guanophore: aboveGood for you Fran! Sources are always helpful. I will fervently pray that the Holy Spirit will deeply impress these truths upon your heart, and that you will be able to accept what they say. I look forward to the time when you will stop posting contradictions to the Teaching of the Catholic Church on CAF. It is my prayerful hope that you will soon fully and finally accept that these passages refer to people who are joined to the Body of Christ, and are not “outside”.
A few post ago Fran you begin with
“Here’s the rest of the Story”
And that starting point works for me too
CCC# 1260 & 1271 ARE Incomplete CATHOLIC Teachings when culled and seperated from The REST of THEE Thruth
CCC 846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
CCC #847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
What you’re not grasping is that truth is singular; AND along with the key’s [all of them] to heaven’s gate; ARE entrusted by Christ to His Catholic Church.
My friend, you would be extremely well advised to speak to a Catholic Priest on your understandings.
God Bless you,
Patrick
To see forever further to the one Source.Dear Fran, you have considered why the web technology is available and it is great for dissemination, my remark is how and why it became available for this.
This is the Strange things about what we all come to beleive. We use a Frame of Reference much like looking out a windo at a view. If we do not venture outside we will only see the view through the window Frame. God outside and the Frame is our extent of vision. Go on to a mountain and it expands again, go up in a rocket and a universe is seen. etc etc
Regards Tony