What Did Jesus Really Look Like? Article Provides Some Information

[hope]

Can they be trusted? After all they were disobedient to the command to burn it. How do we know that what he said was accurate. I think he misunderstood and that is the best thing that can be said. The idea of an oral approval is unprecedented which make it an unlikely happening. As for my question the answer is no they cannot be trusted. As per the website rules I will not discuss this further.

 

[Lunam_Meam]

@hope,

The gospels are witness testimony. So, how does the Catholic Church “know” they can be trusted? How do they “know” what the gospel writers wrote is accurate? Note: it’s not about questioning the Church’s veracity, rather how anyone else knows what is Truth.

 

[Annie]

The events described in the gospels were experienced by many people, unlike the experience of having a private revelation.

 

[Lunam_Meam]

Lunam_Meam:

@hope,

The gospels are witness testimony. So, how does the Catholic Church “know” they can be trusted? How do they “know” what the gospel writers wrote is accurate? Note: it’s not about questioning the Church’s veracity, rather how anyone else knows what is Truth.

The events described in the gospels were experienced by many people, unlike the experience of having a private revelation.

We are told that these events are experienced by many people, but we don’t have all of their accounts of it. This is my point. We don’t have many sources all corroborating these things, and even the fact that there were many witnesses is relayed to us through someone else telling us about it. We don’t have pictures of the events, or film footage of the apostles writing these events down, etc.

And, God speaks one on one as well as to multitudes. For example, Moses on Mt. Sinai when he received private revelations, such as the commandments, or John of Zebedee when he received private revelations about the end times, etc, on the Isle of Patmos, etc. Should we distrust them then? Are you? I doubt it.

So, we’re back to my questions: how does the Catholic Church “know” the gospels writers can be trusted? How do they “know” what they wrote is accurate?

 

[Annie]

So, we’re back to my questions: how does the Catholic Church “know” the gospels writers can be trusted? How do they “know” what they wrote is accurate

Because if they weren’t true, people would have said so. That is why the fact that there were witnesses is important. The nature of the events themselves implies witnesses to a lot of different events.

Moreover, if they weren’t true, why would the writers of the Gospels, who would have known they were untrue, have stuck with what they said when they were martyred for those very words?

With this private revelation, they were received by one person only. She is the only one who had the experience. No one else can attest to the events except herself.

The pope said there was nothing contrary to the gospel, but that doesn’t mean they are true. If I told you I’d eaten penguin meat for dinner, that would not be contrary to the gospel, but that wouldn’t make it true.

 

[Lunam_Meam]

Lunam_Meam:

Annie:

Lunam_Meam:

@hope,

The gospels are witness testimony. So, how does the Catholic Church “know” they can be trusted? How do they “know” what the gospel writers wrote is accurate? Note: it’s not about questioning the Church’s veracity, rather how anyone else knows what is Truth.

The events described in the gospels were experienced by many people, unlike the experience of having a private revelation.

We are told that these events are experienced by many people, but we don’t have all of their accounts of it. This is my point. We don’t have many sources all corroborating these things, and even the fact that there were many witnesses is relayed to us through someone else telling us about it. We don’t have pictures of the events, or film footage of the apostles writing these events down, etc.

And, God speaks one on one as well as to multitudes. For example, Moses on Mt. Sinai when he received private revelations, such as the commandments, or John of Zebedee when he received private revelations about the end times, etc, on the Isle of Patmos, etc. Should we distrust them then? Are you? I doubt it.

Because if they weren’t true, people would have said so. That is why the fact that there were witnesses is important. The nature of the events themselves implies witnesses to a lot of different events.

Moreover, if they weren’t true, why would the writers of the Gospels, who would have known they were untrue, have stuck with what they said when they were martyred for those very words?

We read the Pharisees, after hearing talk of Jesus’s resurrection, paid roman soldiers to say Jesus’s body was abducted by His followers. How do you know that’s not what actually happened, but the gospel writers twisted reality, and made that the lie instead?

How do you know there wasn’t people who said the events mentioned in the gospels didn’t happen? Can you say with certainty no such claims exist, or never have existed, whether recorded or not? If you acknowledge you can’t, then how do you know the gospel writers weren’t being untruthful?

For sake of argument, lets say you had in front of you recorded claims from over two thousand years ago that state “The gospels are lies”, or something to that effect, yet you dismiss them. Is it because you can prove the gospels are Truth? If so, how? Or, do you choose to have faith in them?

Now, the Prophets, John of Zebedee, etc, received private revelations, meaning no one else can attest to their experience except themselves, and each of their revelations wasn’t contrary with one another. Why are they and their writings trusted, but the same can’t be said of others outside of those mentioned in the Bible?

 

[Lunam_Meam]

If I told you I’d eaten penguin meat for dinner, that would not be contrary to the gospel, but that wouldn’t make it true.

• God is a living God
• God’s Word is gospel

The eternal, living God will never cease communicating with His creation, so He cannot be confined to any page or book, but we need to accept He has, does, and will continue to speak, and what He speaks is gospel. Yes, there are those who have and will claim having received revelations from God when they did not, and no, we shouldn’t automatically believe them, even if what we read doesn’t seem to contradict other gospels. This is where discernment comes in by invoking the Holy Spirit for guidance. And, if our soul is in Grace, then it possesses love, and by possessing love it possesses God, that is the Father Who preserves it, the Son Who teaches it, the Spirit Who illuminates it. It therefore possesses Knowledge, Science, Wisdom, Light. Then, we’re able to recognize when we do hear, and are not hearing, the voice of God.