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condoluci
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Watched TV. exercise, and a lot of puzzels
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It wasn’t an army at that time.
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Socrates92
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Is it not actually clear that no time passed between them? Angelic nature precludes the ability to change one’s mind. Whichever way an angel/demon directs his will in his very first act of will is the way that that will is frozen forever. Therefore Rebellion happened at the moment of each individual demon’s creation. Is my reasoning correct?
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Socrates92
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Would it make sense to draw on some distinction between infused and natural virtue to explain how Satan was able to rebel? Virtue is defined (by St. Thomas) as the perfection of a power. Natural virtue being the perfection of power proper to nature, supernatural/infused virtue being a perfection granted to a soul/spirit by God towards one in the state of grace. Satan would have had perfect “virtue” in the sense relating to his nature. However, he would have lacked the supernatural/infused component granted purely by God. To merit it, he would have had to, just like any other creature, submit himself to God’s will in an act of faith, which he never did. Therefore, his virtues would have been lacking in that aspect. This would have included intellectual virtues.
I’m not 100% sure I’m applying the moral theology right, so feel free to correct me on any points.
I’m not 100% sure I’m applying the moral theology right, so feel free to correct me on any points.
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Wesrock
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According to Saint Thomas Aquinas, the first act of all angels was self reflection, which was a good operation. The second act is where they oriented their will, and by which they are separated as good and wicked. These are mental and non-physical operations, so the order isn’t temporal in the common sense of time, but only in relation of one mental act to another.
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Socrates92
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Semantics. He “battled” in the sense that he rebelled. The fact that chances of “success”, whatever that would be, are 0, is irrelevant. Even a total route can technically be classified as a battle.
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Socrates92
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Interesting. Do you know what the summa reference is?
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clarkgamble1
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And why should we accept Aquinas speculation about beings that are so far completely above us as to be non comprehendable? He writes like he was there!
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Wesrock
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You could read the ST sections I linked above to find his own justifications in his own words.Wesrock:
And why should we accept Aquinas speculation about beings that are so far completely above us as to be non comprehendable? He writes like he was there!
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