What do Baptists believe?

[chadair]

I wonder why such a strong negative response to Catholics? Or anybody of any other faith.

How can you hope to convert people if you treat them with disdain the moment you hear what faith they are?

me and my oldest son talked about this today. With the “peer pressure” of that bunch tryin to get him “saved”, they are doin nothing but pushin him further from their beliefs and closer to Catholicism

My dad talks bad about the Catholic Church for several reasons. 1) is IGNORANCE. hate to sound disrespectful, it is NOT my intention at all. 2) what he does understand about Catholicism, it does NOT assure him of salvation, unlike what his church preaches. 3) if anyone wants to believe their religion is the one true religion, or “the way”, and another 2000 yr old religion debunks yer teachings, then the next thing to do is TRASH said 2000 yr old religion

 

[IggyAntiochus]

I know. My Baptist friends are accepting, but I still remember when they said You are Catholic?, and said we are ritualistic. I don’t know what they want? A rock band during Mass?

Hey…I’ve seen rock bands at Mass before.

 

[nickybr38]

Ah! Thank you. I feel quite embarrassed. With all my church hopping I never heard about this. Hahahaha. I guess I had more pressing matters to worry about, like how one can be saved.

 

[Patavium]

Hey…I’ve seen rock bands at Mass before.

Yes, me too!. At protestant Churches

 

[IggyAntiochus]

Yes, me too!. At protestant Churches

You will never truly experience the Mass until you’ve been to a “Youth Mass” and had to endure the Nicene Creed sung to a Hillsong tune.

 

[nickybr38]

You will never truly experience the Mass until you’ve been to a “Youth Mass” and had to endure the Nicene Creed sung to a Hillsong tune.

OR to a campfire song.

In fact, my parish often sings the Alleluia to campfire melodies (by that I mean, melodies of songs you hear at Protestant Bible Camps). Right words. Wrong melody. Please. Do not want. Haha.

 

[Patavium]

OR to a campfire song.

In fact, my parish often sings the Alleluia to campfire melodies (by that I mean, melodies of songs you hear at Protestant Bible Camps). Right words. Wrong melody. Please. Do not want. Haha.

 

[PRmerger]

You will never truly experience the Mass until you’ve been to a “Youth Mass” and had to endure the Nicene Creed sung to a Hillsong tune.

Hey, if it gets the teens to want to go to Mass and to be excited to sing, I say

 

[IggyAntiochus]

Hey, if it gets the teens to want to go to Mass and to be excited to sing, I say

Isn’t that part of the problem, though, PR? That is, segregating congregations according to a demographic, whether young or old. The youth are told they won’t enjoy Mass unless it’s brought down to a teenagers level and made to resemble a sacrosanct version of Hannah Montana. I’m not sure that’s a good thing, given that the chief reasons cited for evangelical yoots leaving their churches is because they never actually experience church, just rock concerts, which they eventually outgrow.

 

[PRmerger]

Isn’t that part of the problem, though, PR? That is, segregating congregations according to a demographic, whether young or old. The youth are told they won’t enjoy Mass unless it’s brought down to a teenagers level and made to resemble a sacrosanct version of Hannah Montana. I’m not sure that’s a good thing, given that the chief reasons cited for evangelical yoots leaving their churches is because they never actually experience church, just rock concerts, which they eventually outgrow.

It’s the same Mass, eternal, once for all, whether they’re singing Hillsong or Gregorian, right?

 

[PRmerger]

II’m not sure that’s a good thing, given that the chief reasons cited for evangelical yoots leaving their churches is because they never actually experience church, just rock concerts, which they eventually outgrow.

And just a point of clarification: I think Youth Masses with drums and a rockin’ priest and powerpoint presentations of lyrics with pics of Our Lord on Great Big Screens sans any catechesis is going to lead to youths leaving in droves. To be sure!

I just think that if that’s where they want to be met, let’s meet them there. And give them good catechesis so they know exactly what the treasure is that lies beneath the rock band.

 

[Jellen]

I was baptized Catholic as an adult and was Catholic for 21 years. I have recently converted to the Baptist faith. My current pastor does not accept my baptism and wants me to be rebaptized. I have a problem with that, I think my Catholic baptism was valid. I have run into several websites on the computer that believe that Catholics are not Christians. I wanted more focus on Jesus and the Bible which I got, however during Lent I missed Stations of the Cross, Ash Wednesday, Holy Thursday Mass, and Good Friday veneration. We had nothing for Lent.I plan to look into a Lutheran service to see if it is more liturgical. I do have differences with the Catholic church which is why I left. I have problems with Mary, the pope, angels, and saints. Also I believe Marian apparitions are not from God. I used to go to daily Mass when I was able and I miss it. The Baptist service is just music, which is way too loud, and then a long sermon. The people are friendly and I respect the Baptist church, however I don’t think they believe Catholics are saved.

 

[Patavium]

I was baptized Catholic as an adult and was Catholic for 21 years. I have recently converted to the Baptist faith. My current pastor does not accept my baptism and wants me to be rebaptized. I have a problem with that, I think my Catholic baptism was valid. I have run into several websites on the computer that believe that Catholics are not Christians. I wanted more focus on Jesus and the Bible which I got, however during Lent I missed Stations of the Cross, Ash Wednesday, Holy Thursday Mass, and Good Friday veneration. We had nothing for Lent.I plan to look into a Lutheran service to see if it is more liturgical. I do have differences with the Catholic church which is why I left. I have problems with Mary, the pope, angels, and saints. Also I believe Marian apparitions are not from God. I used to go to daily Mass when I was able and I miss it. The Baptist service is just music, which is way too loud, and then a long sermon. The people are friendly and I respect the Baptist church, however I don’t think they believe Catholics are saved.

Jellen, They believe even some Mormons are saved. They just have this strong passion to make you see the wrong of your ways and become baptist. That is all. I think from my experiences with protestants, I like baptists quite a bit. I think you should use this website to ask those questions that you doubt. This website is EXCELLENT to explain what we sometimes ignore or misunderstand.

Welcome back!, and YES CATHOLICS ARE CHRISTIANS!. Catholic Church is the Church founded by the Apostles, and thus by Jesus! (or from the protestant perspective the only one that can CLAIM this).

God bless!

 

[PRmerger]

I was baptized Catholic as an adult and was Catholic for 21 years. I have recently converted to the Baptist faith. My current pastor does not accept my baptism and wants me to be rebaptized. I have a problem with that, I think my Catholic baptism was valid.

Indeed it was, Jellen! The universe was changed forever at your baptism, for an indelible seal was placed on your soul, claiming you for Christ.

As Fr. Vincent Serpa likes to say, “If we could look into the soul of the newly baptized to see what happens at baptism, nuclear fission would appear as child’s play!”

I plan to look into a Lutheran service to see if it is more liturgical. I do have differences with the Catholic church which is why I left. I have problems with Mary, the pope, angels, and saints

Best wishes during your search for a church, Jellen.

I would like to offer you some advice, though: please make sure that you are not shopping for a church that conforms to your own views. Rather, find the Church that Jesus founded, and then conform your views to Christ’s.

For if you try to join a church that agrees with your own views, then what you have done is create a god in your own image.

I believe that church shopping in that way is doing it exactly backwards. Don’t find a church you agree with. Find a Church that is the same one that Jesus founded 2000 years ago…the Church that can trace its roots all the way back from modernity to the beginning.

Not a church that was founded in, say, 1952.

Or a church that dismisses all the hard sayings of Christ (like, if you divorce and re-marry you commit adultery) and say, “Jesus didn’t really mean it like the Catholics say he did!” (How else could he have meant it, incidentally?)

Anyway, best of luck in your search!

 

[IggyAntiochus]

It’s the same Mass, eternal, once for all, whether they’re singing Hillsong or Gregorian, right?

Well, it’s not a doctrinal issue. Technically, the forms used in worship are an open area, to a point. However, lex orandi, lex credendi, right?

 

[Church_Militant]

I was baptized Catholic as an adult and was Catholic for 21 years. I have recently converted to the Baptist faith. My current pastor does not accept my baptism and wants me to be rebaptized. I have a problem with that, I think my Catholic baptism was valid. I have run into several websites on the computer that believe that Catholics are not Christians. I wanted more focus on Jesus and the Bible which I got, however during Lent I missed Stations of the Cross, Ash Wednesday, Holy Thursday Mass, and Good Friday veneration. We had nothing for Lent.I plan to look into a Lutheran service to see if it is more liturgical. I do have differences with the Catholic church which is why I left. I have problems with Mary, the pope, angels, and saints. Also I believe Marian apparitions are not from God. I used to go to daily Mass when I was able and I miss it. The Baptist service is just music, which is way too loud, and then a long sermon. The people are friendly and I respect the Baptist church, however I don’t think they believe Catholics are saved.

You, rather desperately need to do your own homework and find out, as I did, what the Catholic answers are to your doctrinal problems.

For one thing…how could the Blessed Virgin’s apparitions be not from God when every message she has ever offered has been the same one she said in John 2:5.“Do whatever he tells you.”

Have a look at the articles on my blog because they will answer a lot of your issues.
Apocalypsis

By no means be rebaptized, as your baptism is valid and that pastor can accept your profession of faith just as he would any other Christian’s. You might also point out to him that there’s no reason for you to be rebaptized by him anyway, since according to Baptist doctrine, baptism is not essential to salvation.

Who REALLY Preaches “A Different Gospel”?

You’re not gonna find daily services anywhere but in a Catholic Church, so you’ve pretty well shot yourself in the foot in that regard by leaving.

May the Lord open your eyes and lead you home to us.

 

[Church_Militant]

It’s the same Mass, eternal, once for all, whether they’re singing Hillsong or Gregorian, right?

Actually, no. Check the rubrics and the guidelines for the new missal. There are specific guidelines now for the musical settings at Mass and Hillsong wouldn’t qualify.

 

[Stilldreamn]

Or a church that dismisses all the hard sayings of Christ (like, if you divorce and re-marry you commit adultery) and say, “Jesus didn’t really mean it like the Catholics say he did!” (How else could he have meant it, incidentally?)

Hi Jellen, a word of caution with Lutheran churches - some of them are very liberal (ELCA) which will introduce you to doctrines that will make your toes curl with your Catholic understanding of Christianity. WELS and LC-MS are safer picks (and other confessional Lutheran churches are very good, too).

I admire the Catholic church’s consistant stance on the “hard sayings” - unfortunately, it is a divorce/remarriage issue that presents an obstacle to my exploring RCIA myself (and a topic for a different thread).

Good luck.

 

[PRmerger]

I admire the Catholic church’s consistant stance on the “hard sayings” - unfortunately, it is a divorce/remarriage issue that presents an obstacle to my exploring RCIA myself (and a topic for a different thread).

Good luck.

If you want to start a thread on this I’ll join you there! Just post the link.

And I’m curious–is the obstacle that which you have created, or that which you believe the Church has created, to your exploring RCIA?

 

[PRmerger]

Actually, no. Check the rubrics and the guidelines for the new missal. There are specific guidelines now for the musical settings at Mass and Hillsong wouldn’t qualify.

Could you be specific about what in the rubrics forbids the Nicene creed being sung to a Hillsong tune?