What Do Catholics Not Respect Non-Catholics?

[Sepharad]

It’s not a nice feeling to hear that we are the Whore of Babylon and pope is Antichrist. And that’s what protestants sometimes say. That’s an obvious lie and, as the Scripture says, liars will not enter the Kingdom of God.
We are not arrogant, we just think in a logical way. If we believe that are right (and we do ), we have no choice and we have to say that those who believe in something else must be wrong. If we believe that 2 and 2 is 4, we cannot admit that 5 is also a correct answer. I’m sorry.

Just do what I do when people tell me I’m going to hell for being a Jew, or will go to hell for not believing in Jesus, or tell me my religion is “over” now that Christianity is here:

I just ignore them. It works!

 

[onetimeposter]

what the church teaches on faith and morals,is to be believed by every catholic,some will live by these teachings,some wont…Jesus will be the final judge…
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Jesus is our advocate, God is our judge.**

heres an example of faith and morals…contraception… the church warned us about the use of it, and one even predicted that abortion would follow(pope paul the ?cant quite remember if it was 5th or 6th) and now its getting worse,euthiasim,cloning,embryonic stem cell research…but listen to this, there are some christians who think this is all ok! this is what the apostles and the early church fathers had to deal with to,christians believing in what they wanted to believe in…or why else would they have written so many letters…

Stoning women used to be and racial segregation was fine as well in America just a few decades ago…

 

[jay29]

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Jesus is our advocate, God is our judge.**

heres an example of faith and morals…contraception… the church warned us about the use of it, and one even predicted that abortion would follow(pope paul the ?cant quite remember if it was 5th or 6th) and now its getting worse,euthiasim,cloning,embryonic stem cell research…but listen to this, there are some christians who think this is all ok! this is what the apostles and the early church fathers had to deal with to,christians believing in what they wanted to believe in…or why else would they have written so many letters…

Stoning women used to be and racial segregation was fine as well in America just a few decades ago…

…and what is your point???

 

[jay29]

My dear SIA the mere fact you are here ilustrates how much Catholics not only tolerate but love our non-Catholic brethren.

Being a Catholic and trying to gain access to non-Catholic forums is another story and for me speaks volumes of the real differences between the two.

In my experience everyone is welcome on Catholic forums while on non-catholic forums Catholics are not wanted tolerated or accepted. As soon as one declares to be Catholic, inextricably ones account is suddenly terminated with no explanation given except that ‘the forum administrators reserve the right to accept or deny a membership…The forum administrators decision is final!’

Now the difference between the two speaks volumes.

Blessings and peace

Carm, anyone???

 

[trustinyou]

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**Jesus is our advocate, God is our judge.
ever heard of the apostles creed…he ascended into heaven from whence He Shall Come to judge the living and the dead.]

 

[onetimeposter]

trustinyou:
He will come again to judge the living and dead. I suppose until his second coming, Jesus is our mediator with God the Father.

 

[Swan]

I invite you to visit this religious forum mysticwicks.com/index.php?

There are a number of Catholics there, as well as former Catholics, and members who are thinking of becoming Catholics. I’ve never heard of anyone’s account being terminated because they are Catholic. Only for bad behavior that continues even after mods give warnings…and sharing one’s ideas is not considered bad behavior.

Not every religious forum is “other faith” friendly, but many are at least tolerant. Sorry you’ve had a bad experience with some of them. I find those sorts to be rather useless as learning tools anyway, since they don’t truly allow debate and dialogue.

On the subject of being taught to read, not read the Bible. When I was attending Catholic school in the 70’s, we were told by the nuns who taught us not to read the Bible on our own, that we would be likely to misinterpret it, but to listen carefully during Mass and occassionally we would read a passage and discuss it in class. This is not the same as the Church forbidding people to read the Bible, as the Magisterium has not made that statement, but for a 4th grader…sister did seem to be the voice of the faith itself, so that could be confusing for a person.

By the time I reached high school in the 80’s, the Franciscan sisters encouraged us to read our Bibles, I admit I felt pretty radical to be opening up that book on my own! The Catholic Bible was a required book in my high school, a text just like our algebra or physics text. Times change.

Thanks for the website - I’m gonig to check it out - it looks really interesting and I am searching in a big way.

My husband is a cradle Catholic and they didn’t read the Bible either. Same reason I think, it had been discouraged by my MIL’s priest or teaching nuns, so they never even considered it. They heard the readings at Mass but that was it. I was raised Baptist and those folks always have a Bible.

I really didn’t know what to expect when I started this thread and just want to thank everyone who has contributed. When I look at the problems in the world the best way I can think of to begin to make a difference is by seeking to understand other folks - sort of a “let peace begin with me” thing and I see so much animosity on this forum that sometimes it moves me to tears.

Be the change you want to see in the world…Gandhi

 

[AlegreFe]

I have gone to one or two in other Catholic Churches that were actual Bible studies so I’m glad that the Church now permits everyone to read and study the Bible.

(bold emphasis mine)
The Catholic Church never forbade anyone to read the bible. I think you’re confusing some facts here. The Catholic Church and the bible forbids you to have your own “private” or “personal” interpretation. But the Church never has or never will forbid you from reading the bible.

 

[AlegreFe]

Didn’t the writer mean “Why” and not “What”??

:yup: I’m pretty sure.

Now I just think twice when I remember that Catholic giants such as Kark Keating, Marcus Grodi, Scott Hahn and so on and on and on…were once Protestant themselves. I think Protestants exist to keep us Catholics on our toes.

:yup: I believe this to be true also.
Jesus said that He would make the stones talk and they did!!

 

[AlegreFe]

Your free to believe anything and everything, but only if it comes from the Church…right?

When it comes to my faith, yes. Anything else, God gave me a conscience for that.

 

[AlegreFe]

But what a lot of people forget is that didn’t say “And if your neighbor’s eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out too.”

Ah, but you see, one of the works of mercy is to admonish the sinner. And this person is Catholic and shouldn’t be saying half the things he/she is saying. I don’t feel guilty at all for saying what I have said to this person. And as far as trying to be respectful to his/her feelings, it doesn’t seem that this person is bothered in the least.

 

[onetimeposter]

Ah, but you see, one of the works of mercy is to admonish the sinner. And this person is Catholic and shouldn’t be saying half the things he/she is saying. I don’t feel guilty at all for saying what I have said to this person. And as far as trying to be respectful to his/her feelings, it doesn’t seem that this person is bothered in the least.

Are you the Catholic Police?

 

[RobHom]

Hmm…interesting!

Firstly, Catholics DO NOT disrespect any non-Catholic for we are ‘forbidden’ to. It must firstly be the non-Catholic who QUESTIONS a Catholic doctrine or understanding that prompts the response, which then may include, views that ARE disrespectful, or PERCEIVED to be disrespectful!!

Catholics do not go door to door to ram Catholicism down anyones throats! Catholics do not question an individual’s “Christianity” and then cite or produce some ready made publication that DISCOUNTS what has been held from antiquity as FALSE and that the ‘publication’ produced somehow professes the truth which had been hidden from mankind until now!

Cathollics do not ask you whether your understanding of “I am the Way, Life, and The Truth” is actually correct according to the Bible. Catholics do not "question’ The Bible since The Book is immersed in the The Church that “produced” Holy Writ for the faithful.

“Respect” in the context used here, is EARNED! If you query with respect, the response will be respectful. If the query is a “charge,” then the response will be a rebuttal.

Catholics are ‘silent’ on most issues because it is forbidden by Our Lord, to trick, coerce or drag anyone INTO Catholicism. Every individual soul has free will. That freedom, NOT EVEN GOD will interfere with, for He does not GIVE and then RETRACT what He does!! Individuals become Catholics, leave, return and free to leave again, if they wish.

Catholicism is FREEDOM.

Many Catholics seem to answer from a HIGH MORAL GROUND. Granted. But when you learn that it is because they UNDERSTAND that Catholicism encompasses EVERY denomination of Protestanism, then one can understand, “why.”

For instance, Mormonism, Evangelical, Jehovah’s Witness, Anglican, Assembly of God, et al, ALL POSSESS some aspect of Catholicism, because they spintered from Catholicsm. Whatever aspect ‘they’ cite as the “truth” of Christ, Catholicism can ‘see’ THE REST OF THAT ASPECT !! Catholics do not have to ‘understand’ every aspect of a particular denomination because if every denomination has a piece of “The Treasure Map” (Salvation) The Catholic Church already has the ENTIRE MODEL of the map in 3-D and engraved on all four walls !!

Unfortunately, when Catholics point that out, then the ‘disrespectful’ finger begins to rise.

Catholics are NOT disrespectful. THEY ARE REACTIONARY!

AMEN!!! and ditto.

 

[redrosetea]

I think that question is pretty naive, and a blanket interpretation of what you think Catholics feel

I have many Protestant friends ,and most of my family is not Catholic, we even have Jews that are related to us

What makes you think I hate them, or anyone else or that I don’t respect them?

 

[O.S.Luke]

CAF has little love for Protestants, in my experience.

 

[Tantum_ergo]

CAF has little love for Protestants, in my experience

We’re all human and we all fall short of the love which Christ requires of us. . .but that is rather a blanket generalization, don’t you think?

Would you, if CAF were instead, PAF (Protestant Answers Forums), and all the posters who are Catholic posters were Protestants instead, and posted in the same way/style (though obviously professing Protestant, rather than Catholic, teaching) then come on and say, “Hmpf. PAF has little love for Catholics, in my experience?”

 

[RobHom]

I wonder about this, too. Someone will probably accuse me of being disrespectful of the experiences of others, but I just flat-out don’t believe that someone was “not allowed” to read the Bible by the Catholic Church. The person who said this also said that his family had a Bible in their home. Why would his family own a Bible if they were “not allowed” to read it? It makes no sense at all.

I’m not sure…but maybe I can shed a little light on this subject, at least from one viewpoint. I am a cradle Catholic…born in 1950. When I was 6, I was given my first Bible…by our Priest… It was a Douay-Rheims, and I was encouraged to read it. But it came with the admonition that I should be ready to ask questions if I did not understand what it meant. I did read it, and I can’t ever recall being told “not to read it” or that I was not allowed to read it. I recall that as a child…even though I was ahead of my age in reading skills…it was not an easy read, not at all. I think I drove people crazy with questions. But I got answers. I went to Catechism every Saturday morning…we lived in Germany then and I went to DOD schools.

I have never been told not to read the Bible, or that it was not allowed. But…I do remember the admonitions regarding coming up with my own ideas about what something meant. This I take to be…“don’t try to interpret on your own”. I had no problem with that.

I think many Catholics took the admonition against “self interpretation” too seriously and felt it safer not to read the Bible so as to prevent making an error. Parents may have told their kids not to…because its quite possible that they might not have been able to answer questions.

Seeing all of the discord that exists in the Christian world, and the different “interpretations” of what a scripture means…and even though the clear cut prohibition against “personal interpretation” is clearly spelled out in 2 Peter 1:20…it seems that every Joe, Tom and Harry has their very own interpretation… Seems Peter was right in 2 Peter 2 …

 

[RobHom]

Frankly, I think that as a whole…Catholics are “respectful” of others beliefs…and if thats not the case entirely…then most are silent as to their feelings. Frankly…Catholics are less likely to show any negative feelings about another religion than any other that I know of.

I was never taught to disrespect or denigrate any other religion or denomination. I was told as a child that they believe in the same God…but just do it differently. I was taught this by Fathers and Nuns in the 50’s and 60’s.

Now…on the other hand, if I am speaking with someone, or discussing something of a religious nature whether in person or on a forum…and that person is “disrespectful” or antagonistic regarding my beliefs and faith… the gloves may come off. I will try to stay civil, but if push comes to shove, I am quite able to hold my own.
Its not that I like getting down in the mud, but I refuse to be walked on…and have no problem defending my faith and Church.

 

[O.S.Luke]

We’re all human and we all fall short of the love which Christ requires of us. . .but that is rather a blanket generalization, don’t you think?

I hate generalizations more than anyone. But, as I said, it’s been my experience.

Would you, if CAF were instead, PAF (Protestant Answers Forums), and all the posters who are Catholic posters were Protestants instead, and posted in the same way/style (though obviously professing Protestant, rather than Catholic, teaching) then come on and say, “Hmpf. PAF has little love for Catholics, in my experience?”

Absolutely. Disagreement is one thing, but doing so uncharitably or debating disingenuously - no matter who does it - cannot be defended in any Christian manner or form. And I am well aware that there are Protestant forums that have little love for Catholics.

The ends never justify the means. Christians must always take the high road, and be willing to turn the cheek. I know no way around either except to stand tall for the faith. Standing tall doesn’t mean stomping with the foot.

 

[wanner47]

I think it’s a bad idea to say, “Why do Catholics Not Respect Non-Catholics?” and I think it’s an equally bad idea to say “Why do Non-Catholics Not Respect Catholics?” (For that matter, it’s also a bad idea to say, “Why do Traditionalists Not Respect Novus Ordo Catholics?” or vice versa.)

There are charitable and uncharitable people at both ends of the spectrum. I come from a Protestant family and while there are many who are anti-Catholic (some subtlety, some overtly) there are equally as many who are respectful of my faith – and I try to return the courtesy.

But sometimes, especially in the anonymity of the Internet, tempers flare and charity flees. I know I’ve been guilty of it more than once. It happens to Catholics and non-Catholics alike.

Bottom line is that charitableness is not just a Catholic characteristic nor just a non-Catholic characteristic. It’s a virtue we should *all *try to emulate regardless of our spiritual backgrounds.