What Do Catholics Not Respect Non-Catholics?

[Peter_J]

Bottom line is that charitableness is not just a Catholic characteristic nor just a non-Catholic characteristic. It’s a virtue we should *all *try to emulate regardless of our spiritual backgrounds.

Hear hear!

 

[TriuneUnity]

Hear hear!

Honestly…In response to the original poster, I have never felt disrespected by any Catholics in real life. The internet doesn’t count because it’s only partial reality. I get along swimmingly with Catholics in the real world.

 

[AlegreFe]

CAF has little love for Protestants, in my experience.

I hope you don’t mean Catholic Answers Forum as in the moderators who moderate this forum. CAF is more quick to correct, admonish, scold, reprimand, rebuke… etc, a Catholic than they are a non-Catholic, whether Christian or otherwise. And you know what? I don’t blame them. Catholics should be better behaved and/or have their consciences better formed than any other person. I only say that because of the tremendous gift we’ve been given. I don’t say that in boasting at all. To whom much is given, much is expected. It would just be easier to be non-Catholic and get away with just saying, “I accept Jesus as my Lord & Savior” and leave it at that and not worry about doing anything because many protestants believe in faith alone and OSAS. We Catholics do not believe in that. Although some Catholics would want to.

 

[AlegreFe]

I dont think what you see is disrespect from Catholics towards non catholics. What I have been exposed to here, is that Catholics who know their faith here, have the faith Jesus told us about which is built on Rock. Non Catholics have gotten so used to Catholics not being able to defend their faith, were so easily taken in by the non catholic church’s. Today we live in a different time period, when Catholics are finally understanding our Faith, and are able to defend it against all who attack her doctrines and belief’s. I wouldn’t call it disrespectful because non catholics are not used to being exposed to the truth. The Truth “Rock” is what is intimidating to non catholic belief systems, I believe this is where offense is taken place.

The only thing that I have been told by a Priest, that to be careful about sharing my Catholic faith, because Truth carries with it a heavy “Rock”. So it is probably true that myself and others have swung the “Rock” and unintentionally may have offended non catholics, so I ask for forgiveness if I have, or in advance. The hit was not intentionally, only trying to be informative about the Truth of Jesus Christ and his teachings in the Holy Catholic Apostolic Church.

Very good observation. I agree with you here. And I also apologize for offending any non-Catholic if I came across as disrespectful while trying to explain my faith.

 

[AlegreFe]

I’m not confusing anything. Maybe the church, itself, didn’t forbid Bible reading but the priests and nuns did. At least they did back when I was in Catholic school in the 1940’s. If you weren’t in Catholic school at that time then you should not put down or try to change what we were told. I may be old but I’m not stupid! We were to go to Mass and listen to what the priests said but we were not to read the Bible on our own.

Perhaps that was just in your school. And perhaps for the very reason I stated, so that you don’t get your own interpretation.

I think going to Mass every day and listening to the Priest’s homily is a great way to hear the Word of God and at the same time get the right interpretation. If we go to Mass every single day we would hear the majority of the bible in two years. If only attending Mass on Sundays it would be in three years. That’s not a bad thing. It is more than what Protestants hear in their churches because pastors and/or ministers seem to want to only preach on their favorite passages. I’m not making this up. This is what I’ve heard from protestant friends. And let me just say that I am not generalizing here. But I do think it’s many protestant denominations that do this. I won’t include the non-Catholic churches that have liturgies either. I would think that they pretty much do the same thing when it comes to readings at their services, but I’ll admit I’m not sure about that. So if anyone wants to correct me please don’t hesitate.

 

[Peter_J]

I hope you don’t mean Catholic Answers Forum as in the moderators who moderate this forum.

I see no reason to conclude that Luke was criticizing the moderators.

It would just be easier to be non-Catholic

I agree it’s easier to be non-Catholic than to be Catholic.

On the other hand, I think being non-Lutheran is easier than being Lutheran, and being non-Orthodox is easier than being Orthodox, and so on.

 

[O.S.Luke]

So I think that any criticism of CAF is most unfair, untrue and total error. Please be sure of your facts before you make posts criticizing CAF.

I said it was my experience - I don’t know it you’d call that a fact, but it was the way I perceived replies and discussions regarding my post.

I hope you don’t mean Catholic Answers Forum as in the moderators who moderate this forum. CAF is more quick to correct, admonish, scold, reprimand, rebuke… etc, a Catholic than they are a non-Catholic, whether Christian or otherwise.

I made no mention of moderators or administration. It was just my experience of posting here.

It would just be easier to be non-Catholic and get away with just saying, “I accept Jesus as my Lord & Savior” and leave it at that and not worry about doing anything because many protestants believe in faith alone and OSAS. We Catholics do not believe in that. Although some Catholics would want to.

Not all Protestants embrace faith alone and OSAS, AlegreFe. My communion/denomination doesn’t. I don’t consider anything about my faith as “easier.”

What are you trying to say?

 

[Peter_J]

Lilyflower;3940092:

So I think that any criticism of CAF is most unfair, untrue and total error. Please be sure of your facts before you make posts criticizing CAF.

I said it was my experience - I don’t know it you’d call that a fact, but it was the way I perceived replies and discussions regarding my post.

I don’t think you can get out of it that easily, O.S. Luke. After all, if “any criticism of CAF is most unfair, untrue and total error”, then we have to conclude that your criticism of CAF is unfair, untrue and total error. Sorry, but that logic is undeniable.

 

[AlegreFe]

I made no mention of moderators or administration. It was just my experience of posting here.

Then I guess you should’ve said “CAF posters” and not just “CAF.”

Not all Protestants embrace faith alone and OSAS, AlegreFe. My communion/denomination doesn’t. I don’t consider anything about my faith as “easier.”

I said “many protestants” not all protestants. I realize that there are protestant denominations that don’t teach OSAS or the “faith alone” concept. I believe it’s even a possibility that some protestants who are in those denominations who do teach OSAS or faith alone could very well not agree with those teachings. Perhaps that person’s wheels are spinning in their mind trying to make sense out of that teaching when that person believes something else because the bible is tellng them something different.

I’m sorry that wasn’t clear from my post. If I had to explain every detail of what I mean in all my posts I would be here forever and my posts would be too long to post.

 

[O.S.Luke]

I don’t think you can get out of it that easily, O.S. Luke. After all, if “any criticism of CAF is most unfair, untrue and total error”, then we have to conclude that your criticism of CAF is unfair, untrue and total error. Sorry, but that logic is undeniable.

That logic proves nothing. Unless you think the following is true:

God is love.
Love is blind.
Stevie Wonder is blind.
Stevie Wonder is God.

O+

 

[onetimeposter]

I was never encouraged to read my Bible and it was never stressed as something that we should do.

I learned that the Church was all about the Saints, the Priest, the Church, Mary, Baby Jesus and the Pope.

 

[MrS]

That logic proves nothing. Unless you think the following is true:

God is love.
Love is blind.
Stevie Wonder is blind.
Stevie Wonder is God.

O+

is that a Lutheran belief?

 

[Pier]

CAF has little love for Protestants, in my experience.

:hug3:!!!

 

[Peter_J]

That logic proves nothing. Unless you think the following is true:

God is love.
Love is blind.
Stevie Wonder is blind.
Stevie Wonder is God.

O+

Hi again Luke,

Firstly, I hope you understand that I was just teasing you.

Second, I think you’re wrong. I see nothing wrong with the logic of saying

if “any criticism of CAF is most unfair, untrue and total error”, then we have to conclude that your criticism of CAF is unfair, untrue and total error.

 

[Deconi]

That’s easily said - but what reason is there for thinking it is so ? The trouble with Catholicism as it is in practice, is, that it** very often gives the impression of having the mind of a miniature sect - not of a universal Church. Why is this ? Why the contradiction between the claim & the reality ? If it really** believed itself to be a universal Church, it would be far more generous-minded & large-hearted; not the defensive & suspicious & narrow-minded thing it all too often is
As it is, it shows what it really believes by how it treats others.

Opinion and perception.

Unless I misunderstand, it appears a ‘fault’ is levelled at the The Catholic Church due to an ‘…impression of having the mind of a miniature sect - not of a universal Church.’

I see NO CONTRADICTION between claim and reality. What She professes and claims, IS ‘reality’… not just for the faithful, but ‘creation’ itself in its entirety. What She professes as the deposit of faith here, IS ALSO TRUE for the Martians, Saturnites, Venusians, Jupiterians and the “X500” inhabitants when they ‘discover’ themselves!

*Generous-minded? Large-hearted? Defensive & suspicious & narrow-minded…!!! *

C’mon, Mikey. All these are viewpoints! The Church cannot control perception, nor try to. She just professes The Truth!

The SAME Truth that provides us TRUE FREEDOM!!

How can you be free if you DO NOT KNOW if there are any boundaries? Or DO NOT KNOW the rules of living?

I still can’t get over the ‘charge’ of defensive, suspicious and narrow-minded !! To defend and protect The Truth, as given to Her, is 'suspicious and narrow-minded??

I hope I completely misunderstand your view.

That too is an Orwellian use of language​

…which renders it…?? (You credit me with too much anyway!)

 

[SPH1]

It is not arrogance to firmly hold that the Holy Catholic Church is the one, true Church, any more than it is arrogance to hold that the Holy Trinity - Father, Son & Holy Spirit - is the one, true God.

 

[SPH1]

I was never encouraged to read my Bible and it was never stressed as something that we should do.

But you admit you HAD a Bible. Your failure to read/study it was your own.

I learned that the Church was all about the Saints, the Priest, the Church, Mary, Baby Jesus and the Pope.

So then, you never actually attended Mass? If so, did you ever actually listen to the Mass, what was being said and done?

 

[Cinette]

I went to Catholic boarding schools and had to attend Mass every day. At each Mass the Bible was read and I have to say that we were never encouraged to read the Bible.

I wish we were taught apologetics. I wish we had been taught to understand the deep significance of the Mass. Although mention was made of the outward signs and the inward signs, the language used was not strong and persuasive.

So I drifted and for many years believed that I didn’t need God - that God was for weak people. Then one day I felt a strong desire to go to Mass and I cried when I saw how it was transformed - more user friendly. Then came the Life in the Spirit Seminar and that blew me away! Later came EWTN! Wow!

My husband was athiest and a synmpathiser of communism - I was also the latter for many good reasons. Then when I returned to the Church he noticed so many “god-incidences” and became to become curious. He read scientific books which concluded that there HAD to be a GOD. Then be began to attend Mass with me for 11 years and one of the things I noticed was that he was always moved by the congregation - the ferver, the reverence touched him and reduced him to tears many times. Its funny what can touch people. I think at the end of the day it is LOVE. I really do.

Non-Catholics? They are just like us - the good, the bad and the… Just like us. As I have said many times. I think we have Protestants to keep us on our toes.

Love you all
:extrahappy:

 

[Pro_Domina]

This is my response to the threads that go "Why do (non-Catholic group name here) hate Catholics? However, I refuse to use the word “hate” as I was raised to believe that we should do our best not to “hate” anyone and I find it’s lose use on this forum somewhat upsetting.

Having been both a Protestant and a Catholic and now being pretty much neither, I read the posts here from a less biased point of view than some and I see a alot of uncharitable behavior on both sides. However, many Catholics, usually the same ones who wonder why so many folks are anti-Catholic, appear to be very arrogant and disrepectful of the faiths of others. Belittling and sanctmonious behavior are not Christ-like, IMO. Nor do they make for dialogue. To assume that people who hold sincere beliefs that differ from your own need only to “try harder” and they would see things your way is indeed an insult.

Thoughts?

Quite simple. No one is greater than his master.
Our Lord suffered not only on the part of pagans, but of the very jewish religious authorities that should have followed Him.

Now there is a concept that is little spoken of in the pulpit and much less practiced. It is that of Justice being a virtue.
More later…

 

[onetimeposter]

But you admit you HAD a Bible. Your failure to read/study it was your own.
**
I suppose your right, what role does a priest have if not for religious education and spiritual growth. I am simply sharing my authentic Catholic experience. This happened whether you like it or not…and I went to Catholic school until I was 14.**

So then, you never actually attended Mass? If so, did you ever actually listen to the Mass, what was being said and done?

Went to weekly Mass until I was about 15. I listened, the Christian message was lost on me and I was never really aware that Priests have the uncanny ability, on demand, to turn a piece of bread into the son of God. I knew that it was important to do what the Church said.