What do Muslims think about Jesus?

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What do Muslims think about Jesus?

Peace be upon you all,

Muslims love and respect Jesus. They consider him one of the greatest of God’s prophets and messengers to humankind. A Muslim never refers to him simply as “Jesus,” but always adds the phrase “may the peace and blessing of God be upon him.” The Qur’an confirms his virgin birth, and a special chapter of the Qur’an is entitled “Mary.” The Qur’an describes the Annunciation as follows:

"The Angels said, ‘O Mary! God has chosen you, and purified you, and chosen you above all the women of all nations…’

‘O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, honored in this world and in the Hereafter, and one of those brought near to God. He shall speak to the people in infancy and in old age, and shall be of the righteous.’

She said: ’ O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?’ He said: ‘Even so; God creates what he wills. When He decrees a thing, he says to it, “Be!” and it is."’ (Qur’an 3:42, 45-7)

Just as God created Adam without a mother or a father, He caused Jesus to be conceived without a father:

“Truly the example of Jesus in relation to God is as the example of Adam. He created him from dust and then said to him, “Be!” and he was.” (Qur’an 3:59)

During his prophetic mission, Jesus performed many miracles. The Qur’an tells us that he said: “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I make for you out of clay, as it were, a figure of a bird, and breathe into it and it becomes a bird by God’s leave. And I heal the blind, and the lepers, and I raise the dead by God’s leave.” (Qur’an 3:49)

Jesus, like Muhammad, came to confirm and renew the basic doctrine of the belief in One God brought by earlier prophets. In the Qur’an, Jesus is reported as saying that he came: “To attest the Torah that was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you; I have come to you with a sign from your Lord; so be conscious of God and obey me.” (Qur’an 3:50)

The Prophet Muhammad said: “Whoever believes that there is no deity except God, alone without partner, that Muhammad is his messenger, that Jesus is the servant and messenger of God; His word which he bestowed on Mary and a spirit proceeding from Him, and that Paradise and Hell are true, shall be received by God into Heaven.”

Salam
 
Very informative and interesting post brother/sister, helped me to understand more the position of Jesus in Islam. 👍

Peace be unto you also
 
Peace be upon you.

It’s wonderful that Muslims, through the teachings of Muhammed, see Jesus Christ as someone of great profit to mankind. But they disregard the signs that God brought down to us as described in Scripture that indicates the Divinity of Jesus:

Is 9:5
“For a child is born to us, a son is given us; upon his shoulder dominion rests. They name him Wonder-Counselor, God-Hero, Father-Forever, Prince of Peace.”

Matt 28:18
"Then Jesus approached and said to them, “All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me.”

Jn 8:58
"Jesus said to them, *“Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM.” *

Matt 3:16-17
"After Jesus was baptized, he came up from the water and behold, the heavens were opened (for him), and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove (and) coming upon him. And a voice came from the heavens, saying, *“This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” " *

These and other passages from both the Old and New Testaments of the Bible testify to the fact that Jesus Christ was not just “created from dust” as a miraculous prophet. Christ, with his Father, and the Holy Spirit *are * the One True God. We cannot equate Jesus as being of equal stature to Muhammed - He’s more glorious than that, and our Lord God deems Christ’s Divinity to be true.
 
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CelticCatholic:
Very informative and interesting post brother/sister, helped me to understand more the position of Jesus in Islam. 👍

Peace be unto you also
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/bible/son_of_who.asp

jesusthemuslim.com/

Jesus in Islam.

chatislam.com/video/on_demand.php?video=jesus_in_islam

Jesus in the holy Quran:

troid.org/articles/islaamicinfo/Islaamingeneral/Jesus/truenarrative.htm

I have more if you want.

Peace.
 
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Tonks40:
Peace be upon you.
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And peace be upon you bro/sis:

The problem brother you have cited from the bible, which has been corrupted through centuries, the bible has been mixed from God and man words. I can cite hundreds verses from the bible indicate that Jesus (pbuh) neither God nor Son of God

The trinity concept did not come about until hundreds of years later. The only reason the Trinitarian theology of Christianity lives today, is because the monotheistic (Unitarian) Christians were murdered because they did not accept the polytheist.
Jesus (pbuh) was no more than a prophet, and the bible which associate partner with God had been corrupted by men.

Here some examples
Mark 6:10
“Why do you call me good?” answered Jesus, “No-one is good but God alone!”

Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but rather to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until Heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of the pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until all things are accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever keeps the commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.”
Matthew 7:21
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the Will of the Father who is in Heaven. Many will say to me on the day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!”
Also
Biblical Refutation Of the Trinity

Mark 12:28-29 - God is one.
Exodus 33:20, John 1:18, 1 Timothy 6:16 - No one saw God.
Isaiah 42:8 - Do not praise and worship images.
Isaiah 45:1 - “Anointed” does not mean “God”.
Matthew 14:23, 19:13, 26:39, 27:46, 26:42-44 - Jesus prayed.
Matthew 24:36 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
Matthew 26:39 - Jesus and God had different wills.
Matthew 28:18 - All power was given to Jesus.
Mark 1:35, 6:46, 14:35-36 - Jesus prayed.
Mark 10:17-18 and Luke 18:18-19 - Jesus denied divinity.
Mark 13:32 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
Mark 16:19 and Luke 22:69 - Jesus at the right hand of God.
Luke 3:21, 5:16, 6:12, 9:18, 9:28, 11:1-4, 22:41 - Jesus prayed.
Luke 4:18, 9:48, 10:16 - Jesus was from God.
Luke 7:16, 13:33, 24:18-19 - Jesus was a prophet.
Luke 10:21 - Jesus gave thanks.
Luke 23:46 - The spirit of Jesus was commended to God.
John 4:19 - Jesus was a prophet.
John 4:23-24 - Worship in spirit and truth.
John 14:28 - One was greater than the other.
John 5:19, 5:30, 7:28, 8:28 - Jesus was helpless.
John 5:20 - The Father showed the son.
John 5:30 and 6:38 - Jesus and God had different wills.
John 5:31-32 - Jesus’ witness was not true.
John 6:11 and 11:41-42 - Jesus gave thanks.
John 6:32 - The Father was the provider, not the son.
John 7:29, 16:5, 16:28 - Jesus was from God.
John 7:16, 12:49, 14:24, 17:14 - Jesus’ words were not his.
John 8:42 - Jesus did not come of himself.
John 10:29 - “My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all.”
John 14:1 - Jesus said, “…believe also in me.”
John 14:16, 17:1, 17:9, 17:11, 17:15 - Jesus prayed.
John 14:31 and 15:10 - Jesus followed commands.
John 17:6-8 - “I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me.”
John 20:17 - Jesus had a god.
Acts 2:22 - Jesus was “a man approved of God.”
Romans 8:34 - Jesus was an intercessor.
1 Timothy 2:5 - Jesus was the mediator between God and humans

Peace
 
gurrato alaien:
And peace be upon you bro/sis:

The problem brother you have cited from the bible, which has been corrupted through centuries, the bible has been mixed from God and man words. I can cite hundreds verses from the bible indicate that Jesus (pbuh) neither God nor Son of God

The trinity concept did not come about until hundreds of years later. The only reason the Trinitarian theology of Christianity lives today, is because the monotheistic (Unitarian) Christians were murdered because they did not accept the polytheist.
Jesus (pbuh) was no more than a prophet, and the bible which associate partner with God had been corrupted by men.

Here some examples
Mark 6:10
“Why do you call me good?” answered Jesus, “No-one is good but God alone!”

Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but rather to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until Heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of the pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until all things are accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever keeps the commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.”
Matthew 7:21
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the Will of the Father who is in Heaven. Many will say to me on the day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!”
Also
Biblical Refutation Of the Trinity

Mark 12:28-29 - God is one.
Exodus 33:20, John 1:18, 1 Timothy 6:16 - No one saw God.
Isaiah 42:8 - Do not praise and worship images.
Isaiah 45:1 - “Anointed” does not mean “God”.
Matthew 14:23, 19:13, 26:39, 27:46, 26:42-44 - Jesus prayed.
Matthew 24:36 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
Matthew 26:39 - Jesus and God had different wills.
Matthew 28:18 - All power was given to Jesus.
Mark 1:35, 6:46, 14:35-36 - Jesus prayed.
Mark 10:17-18 and Luke 18:18-19 - Jesus denied divinity.
Mark 13:32 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
Mark 16:19 and Luke 22:69 - Jesus at the right hand of God.
Luke 3:21, 5:16, 6:12, 9:18, 9:28, 11:1-4, 22:41 - Jesus prayed.
Luke 4:18, 9:48, 10:16 - Jesus was from God.
Luke 7:16, 13:33, 24:18-19 - Jesus was a prophet.
Luke 10:21 - Jesus gave thanks.
Luke 23:46 - The spirit of Jesus was commended to God.
John 4:19 - Jesus was a prophet.
John 4:23-24 - Worship in spirit and truth.
John 14:28 - One was greater than the other.
John 5:19, 5:30, 7:28, 8:28 - Jesus was helpless.
John 5:20 - The Father showed the son.
John 5:30 and 6:38 - Jesus and God had different wills.
John 5:31-32 - Jesus’ witness was not true.
John 6:11 and 11:41-42 - Jesus gave thanks.
John 6:32 - The Father was the provider, not the son.
John 7:29, 16:5, 16:28 - Jesus was from God.
John 7:16, 12:49, 14:24, 17:14 - Jesus’ words were not his.
John 8:42 - Jesus did not come of himself.
John 10:29 - “My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all.”
John 14:1 - Jesus said, “…believe also in me.”
John 14:16, 17:1, 17:9, 17:11, 17:15 - Jesus prayed.
John 14:31 and 15:10 - Jesus followed commands.
John 17:6-8 - “I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me.”
John 20:17 - Jesus had a god.
Acts 2:22 - Jesus was “a man approved of God.”
Romans 8:34 - Jesus was an intercessor.
1 Timothy 2:5 - Jesus was the mediator between God and humans

Peace
Do you even bother to read any of the posts on this site?? If you had, you would have saved your poor fingers all the trouble of writing all this stuff! We’ve already heard all these things from every Muslim who posts here, ad nauseam!

No matter what we try to explain it falls on deaf ears anyway so why bother!

The only thing I know that is “corrupted” is Islam, which is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind, and you Muslims have swallowed all the so-called “revelations” invented by your “false prophet” Mohammed, hook, line and sinker! :mad:
 
Peace to you brother,

I am sorry, I am not here to annoyed any body nor to attack any religion
My first post was to explain what do Muslims think about Jesus.

And Tonks40 said that the Scripture indicates the Divinity of Jesus:

I cited from the bible the contrary that Jesus was not God nor son of God.
So my purpose was the discussion only.

Peace
 
gurrato alaien:
Peace to you brother,

I am sorry, I am not here to annoyed any body nor to attack any religion
My first post was to explain what do Muslims think about Jesus.

And Tonks40 said that the Scripture indicates the Divinity of Jesus:

I cited from the bible the contrary that Jesus was not God nor son of God.
So my purpose was the discussion only.

Peace
I’ll say one thing: Can you prove the “validity” of your “prophet” without saying that Jesus was not the Son of God? No, you can’t, so you have to perpetuate the myth that he isn’t so that Mohammed can sound credible!

Anybody who reads the Bible and comes to the conclusion that Jesus is not the Son of God, is purposefully blind and there’s no worse blindness than that of those who do not want to see the truth!
 
i’m just wondering who is the one with “deaf ears”?
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  "No matter what we try to explain it falls on deaf ears anyway so why bother!".   Booklover

 "**We've heard all this before too! ** It's funny Muslims claiming that we try to "fit" things in the Bible to Jesus :D ".  Booklover

    "Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.  Allâh has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment."  (Qur'an 2:6&7)
 
You want a proof of Muhammad’s prophethood…
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     "I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.  But when He, the spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever  He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come."  (John 16:12&13)
Prophet Muhammad pbuh was known as the “honest and trusted one”
 
what about the ressurection in the quran

“Thereupon she pointed to him. They said, ‘How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?’ Jesus said, 'I am a servant of ALLAH. HE has given me the Book, and has made me a Prophet; 'And HE has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me Prayer and almsgiving so long as I live; 'And HE has made me dutiful towards my mother, and has not made me arrogant and graceless; ‘And peace was on me the day I was born, and peace will be on me the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised up to life again.’ That was Jesus, son of Mary. This is a statement of the truth concerning which they entertain doubt.” – Qur’an, Surah 19:30-35

and the confirmation of Son of God
(“Son of God” does not mean that God had physical relations with Mary, but rather that God willed it supernaturally that Mary would become the earthly mother of Jesus even as a virgin. See Surah 3:47-48)
 
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Edris:
You want a proof of Muhammad’s prophethood…

“I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. But when He, the spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.” (John 16:12&13)

Prophet Muhammad pbuh was known as the “honest and trusted one”
“Spirit of truth”… NOT “honest and trusted one”. Besides, are you really going to try and claim that Mohammed met the apostles that lived 600 years before him?

Using as much leeway as you have, I could claim “Honest Abe” Lincoln to be a prophet of God. The more you all continue reveal about the loose standards you use to justify your religion, the more frightening it becomes.
 
Edris said:
“Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe. Allâh has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment.” (Qur’an 2:6&7)

Self-fulfilling prophecy. It’s not hard to start a religion, claim in your “prophecies” that people will disagree with you (and be absolutely correct!), then proceed to condemn those certain people to eternal damnation. Heck, I could do this if I wanted to.
 
exoflare said:
“Spirit of truth”… NOT “honest and trusted one”. Besides, are you really going to try and claim that Mohammed met the apostles that lived 600 years before him?

Using as much leeway as you have, I could claim “Honest Abe” Lincoln to be a prophet of God. The more you all continue reveal about the loose standards you use to justify your religion, the more frightening it becomes.

I know, it’s a complete absurdity. Jesus told them he was sending the SPIRIT of truth, he never said he was sending another person. He even told them to wait in Jerusalem for his coming, and then according to Muslims, he shows up 600 years later! Makes no sense!
 
Peace be among all of you:

I appreciate the concern you have in regards to this topic, and the proof of validity you give to the Divinity of Jesus Christ. The bottom line is as humans, we truly don’t know why God chose to reveal to man all that he has. Throughout the centuries, God has revealed himself to man over and over. In Christianity, we feel that He even went so far as to sent Himself down to Earth, incarnate in Jesus, to show us as an extreme example of how we are to love as humans. There were many witnesses in Christ’s time to His works, His miracles and His teachings. We as humans do our best to understand God’s Word, and we trust that Scripture holds the essence of His Truth, just as sure as Muslims feel that the Quaran holds as truth as revealed by God.

It would be easy for me to refute many of the text cited by gurrato from the Bible earlier in this thread that he states proves that Jesus was not divine, but I think that has been done already in other threads.
I just ask those who refute His Divinity to stop and think “what if?” What if Jesus says He is who He truly says He is - Son of God, one who is truly one with the Father? Challenging, yes. But I think it would lead those who are followers of a mere man to a clearer, more deeper understanding of the intentions of our Lord for mankind.

God Bless!
Tonks40
 
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CelticCatholic:
Very informative and interesting post brother/sister, helped me to understand more the position of Jesus in Islam. 👍

Peace be unto you also
OK lets see now. Jesus Christ became incarnate to redeem ALL mankind ( ie Asians, western Europe, eastern Europe, the middle and far east, etc.) , He preached about eternal life and that no one comes to the Father except through Him. He dies on the cross for our sins and is Resurrected as a sign of our own resurrection someday. So, now someone from the desert comes along and says he has received a revelation from an angel and that all the things that Jesus did reaches only the level of teacher or a good man? I guess Jesus’ efforts to redeem us by dying on the cross and being resurrected wasnt enough to convince some folks that he was the True Messiah and Redeemer as prophecied in the OT. And that what ever He did while He was here on Earth apparently wasnt GOOD ENOUGH or thorough enough to ensure eternal life with Him in Heaven if we followed His teachings.

So God said: Sending my Son to redeem mankind maybe wasnt a good idea? And maybe I could make it up by instituting another religion? What???

StMarkEofE
 
Peace be upon you all bro and sis.

To properly understand the nature of Jesus, one has to resort either to a divine source or to what Jesus himself declared and emphasized. It can be proved that the Qur’an is the word of God remaining intact as revealed.

Islam emphatically asserts that there is no deity but Allah. The Qur’an abounds with explicit statements of this fact that leave no room for re-interpretation or twisting the meaning in any direction. As an example, take this verse, which may be translated:
{Allah is He besides Whom there is no god, the Ever-living, the Self-subsisting by Whom all subsist; slumber does not overtake Him nor sleep; whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His; who is he that can intercede with Him but by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they cannot comprehend anything out of His knowledge except what He pleases, His knowledge extends over the heavens and the earth, and the preservation of them both tires Him not, and He is the Most High, the Great.} (Surah 2:255)

Similarly, both the Old Testament and Jesus’ words in the Gospels confirm the Islamic concept of pure monotheism. Following are a few examples:
Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God (Exodus 34:14)

You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them (Exodus 20:1-5)

Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and him only.’” (Matthew 4:10)
“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one (Mark 12:32)
Jesus also asserts his humanity: :
“As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.” (John 8:40)

“By myself I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear.” (John 5:30)

“But in vain they do worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.” (Matthew 15:9)
Referring to Jesus as a “Word” of Allah is an expression of the Will of Allah in creating him in the womb of Virgin Mary without a father, by the word “Be”. The same Divine Command is applied to Yahya (John the Baptist) in the Qur’an, when Allah talks about Yahya who was born from a very old lady who was not capable of bearing children, which means:
{So We responded to him and gave him Yahya and made his wife fit for him; surely they used to hasten, one with another In deeds of goodness and to call upon Us, hoping and fearing and they were humble before Us.} (Surah 21:90) :

Adam the father of humanity was created from dust, as is confirmed in the words that mean
{Surely the likeness of `Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was.} (Surah 3:59)

Are these references to Adam and John the Baptist any different from the same descriptions of Jesus? In other verses we read what means:
{When the angels said: O Maryam, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the Messiah, `Isa son of Maryam, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah).} (Surah 3:45)

{O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, `Isa son of Maryam is only a messenger of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Maryam and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His messengers, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one Allah; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.} (Surah 4:171)

The word “spirit” in this verse is a reference to the Willful power of Allah in creating the fatherless Jesus. The more miraculous creation of Adam, without father or mother was also a “spirit’” from Allah. Could one claim that Adam, and hence all humanity, was an incarnation of God for that same argument?

Similarly, the Gospels portray Jesus as a human man in all respects:
On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus (Luke 2:21)

“The son of man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a gluttonous man…’” (Matthew 11:19)

Jesus replied, “Foxes have holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the son of man has no place to lay his head.” (Matthew 8:20)

One of those days, Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God. (Luke 6:12)

Jesus wept (John 11:35)
The Qur’an esteems Jesus, yes, but Ibrahim (Abraham) and Musa (Moses) are given even higher esteem. There is nothing to imply that Jesus is anything other than human.

Peace
 
gurrato alaien:
Peace be upon you all bro and sis.

To properly understand the nature of Jesus, one has to resort either to a divine source or to what Jesus himself declared and emphasized. It can be proved that the Qur’an is the word of God remaining intact as revealed.

There is just too much thrown together here to reply to everything, but here’s the biggest problem: you’re basing everything on the assumption that the Quran is from God (no one has given a good reason on here yet that it is). Everything else is cherrypicked from the OT/NT to try and fit in with what you’re saying.

If you want to get somewhere, give some convincing arguments that the Quran really is from God instead of assuming people will just instantly believe you because you say so.
 
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