What do Non-catholics think "upon this rock" means

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The word “rock” for many Protestants means a reference to God for example Psalm 18:2 “The Lord is my rock” or 1 Cor 10:4 “…And the rock was Christ.”

As one being heavily involved in Protestantism at one time I can see the perceived confusion. I think a spiritual rock is different than the Rock that Peter became.
 
The above post makes me think of Sam 2 cpt 7

“He will build a house for me”

It seems house and church are synonymous.

Jesus was a carpenter. Peter is the foundation.
 
Is baptism without knowledge (chatechesis) enough for one who is of the age of reason?
If it is fine for babies, then it is fine for 8 year olds. It doesn’t diminish the sacramental grace.
 
If it is fine for babies, then it is fine for 8 year olds. It doesn’t diminish the sacramental grace.
So as long as the Baptized acts in accord with his conscience, he is OK with respect to sin, grace and salvation.

How about if he acts outside of his conscience and he is unaware of penance? Shall we say he will be subject to revelation in order to receive the fullness of grace or salvation.
 
If you look at the context of this confession you see that Jesus is trying to coax a confession from His disciples. he starts with what to people say about me and works to what do you say about me. Peter’s confession is a revelation from God, which he received because he was seeking God’s will and direction for his life. And he is obedient to God’s instruction to confess Christ as Lord. So these three things are the rock Christ built His church on, People seeking God’s truth, people who are obedient to His will, and people who confess Christ as Lord. If we look at the early church, Peter is certainly a leader, as well as John, James, and James the brother of Jesus. Later Paul takes on leadership of the mission to the Gentiles and writes most of the NT. Of course there would have been no church without the deacons. elders bishops and thousands, then hundreds of thousands, then millions of everyday people who accepted Christ; people who sought God, were obedient to Him and confessed Christ as Lord.
 
God is not the author of confusion. What is more confusing than 38,000 different protestant denominations? (crickets)
 
Even if Jesus ment He was the Church by him saying I will give you the keys is saying your in charge of my Church.
 
Even if Jesus ment He was the Church by him saying I will give you the keys is saying your in charge of my Church.
The keys to heaven what I mentioned in my previous post, seeking God’s will,being obedient to God’s commands and confessing Christ. These are the keys to your salvation, the foundation on which the church was built. If Peter was the first pope why was he corrected at Antioch for hypocrisy. In fact Paul writes that Peter was condemned, the Greek work kataginosko translated blame or condemn.
 
The keys to heaven what I mentioned in my previous post, seeking God’s will,being obedient to God’s commands and confessing Christ. These are the keys to your salvation, the foundation on which the church was built. If Peter was the first pope why was he corrected at Antioch for hypocrisy. In fact Paul writes that Peter was condemned, the Greek work kataginosko translated blame or condemn.
Hey stevekehl,

the keys are a sign of authority (cf. Isaiah 22:22) and this becomes more clear when noting that with the keys come the authority to “bind” and “loose”:
The language of “binding” and “loosing” is Rabbinic terminology for authoritative teaching or a teaching function (or “Halakhic” pronouncements), denoting the authoritative declaration that an action is permitted or forbidden by the law of Moses, and in the Church the authority to pronounce judgment on unbelievers and promise forgiveness to believers…
Source: philvaz.com/apologetics/a64.htm
The “binding” and “loosing” refers to the Magisterium (the teaching authority of the early community, which Jesus was establishing through His apostles in His Church) to declare a commandment or teaching binding or not binding, forbidden or allowed, and God in heaven will ratify, seal, or confirm that decision made on earth (cf. Matthew 16:19; 18:18).
Source: Ibid.

You can scroll down (see link above) to the section on the keys and binding and loosing where a number of Protestant scholars are quoted (those citations I gave are part of a summary of the conclusions of the Protestant scholars.)

Regarding Galatians chapter 2 and Sts. Peter and Paul:
…Tertullian, who calls this management of St. Peter, a fault of conversation, not of preaching or doctrine… Tertullian and most interpreters take notice, that St. Peter’s fault was only a lesser or venial sin in his conduct and conversation. Did not St. Paul on several occasions do the like, as what is here laid to St. Peter’s charge? that is, practise the Jewish ceremonies: did not he circumcise Timothy after this, an. 52[A.D. 52]? did he not shave his head in Cenchrea, an. 54? did he not by the advice of St. James (an. 58.) purify himself with the Jews in the temple, not to offend them? St. Jerome, and also St. Chrysostom,[2] give another exposition of this passage. They looked upon all this to have been done by a contrivance and a collusion betwixt these two apostles, who had agreed beforehand that St. Peter should let himself be reprehended by St. Paul, (for this they take to be signified by the Greek text) and not that St. Peter was reprehensible;[3] so that the Jews seeing St. Peter publicly blamed, and not justifying himself, might for the future eat with the Gentiles. But St. Augustine vigorously opposed this exposition of St. Jerome, as less consistent with a Christian and apostolical sincerity, and with the text in this chapter, where it is called a dissimulation, and that Cephas or Peter walked not uprightly to the truth of the gospel. After a long dispute betwixt these two doctors, St. Jerome seems to have retracted his opinion, and the opinion of St. Augustine is commonly followed, that St. Peter was guilty of a venial fault of imprudence. In the mean time, no Catholic denies but that the head of the Church may be guilty even of great sins. What we have to admire, is the humility of St. Peter on this occasion, as St. Cyprian observes,[4] who took the reprehension so mildly, without alleging the primacy, which our Lord had given him. Baronius held that St. Peter did not sin at all, which may be true, if we look upon his intention only, which was to give no offence to the Jewish converts; but if we examine the fact, he can scarce be excused from a venial indiscretion. (Witham) — I withstood, &c. The fault that is here noted in the conduct of St. Peter, was only a certain imprudence, in withdrawing himself from the table of the Gentiles, for fear of giving offence to the Jewish converts: but this in such circumstances, when his so doing might be of ill consequence to the Gentiles, who might be induced thereby to think themselves obliged to conform to the Jewish way of living, to the prejudice of their Christian liberty. Neither was St. Paul’s reprehending him any argument against his supremacy; for is such cases an inferior may, and sometimes ought, with respect, to admonish his superior. (Challoner)
Source: haydock1859.tripod.com/id194.html

Perhaps you could explain why you think Galatians 2 disproves the Papacy?
 
If Peter was the first pope why was he corrected at Antioch for hypocrisy. In fact Paul writes that Peter was condemned, the Greek work kataginosko translated blame or condemn.
Steve,
How does this disprove that Peter was the pope? Perhaps you think that the Church teaches that the pope is perfect and can never sin. If that were what we believe then why would Pope John Paul ll have gone to confession every week. He surly must not have considered himself to be without sin. What the Church teaches is that the Holy Spirit protects the Church, which is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Timothy 3:15), from teaching errors on matters of faith and morals. See Acts chapter 15, Peter stood up and taught the Truth. We see in Galatians 2:11-14 Paul rebukes Peter for his actions not what he is teaching. Only when the Pope speaks ex cathedra is he infallible by the protection of the Holy Spirit. In this way we can be sure the Church always remains the pillar and foundation of truth, without this we would never be sure of truth. I know many people who go to the CofC and they can not agree on the truth even though they read from the same Bible. They all are very sincere in their efforts, but scripture is not a matter of personal interpretation. (2 Peter 1:20-21)
 
Simon Peter is listed first among the apostles, and is given the keys of the kingdom. We are promised that the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

The fact that our Church has stood for over 2000 years, through all the rough waters and opposition over the ages, speaks volumes. How could something stand for so long if God was not behind it?
 
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If Peter was the first pope why was he corrected at Antioch for hypocrisy. In fact Paul writes that Peter was condemned, the Greek work kataginosko translated blame or condemn.
Okay…how does that disprove Peter being the leader, being the first pope?

And why did Paul see a need to spend time with Peter…“Galatians 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to visit Cephas and remained with him fifteen days.”?

Is your pastor sinless? Or he is also with sin? I think you will not say he is sinless…so if he is sinful also…does he stop being your pastor? Have you stopped listening to him/his sermons every Sunday?

Where does the Bible say that our leaders have to be sinless? In the Last Supper, in the washing of the feet, Jesus only exhortation to the disciples is they be the servants…be humble…not to be sinless.

Besides…Paul actually shows respect for Peter by confronting Peter openly, and not speaking behind his back.
 
Perhaps it would help stevekehl if we laid out the conditions for Papal Infallibility per the Catholic Church (as his reference to Galatians 2 implies he may not understand what the Church teaches):

In order for for a Papal pronouncement to be Ex Cathedra, all of the following conditions must exist:
Three conditions must be met for a pope to exercise the charism of infallibility: (1) he must speak in his official capacity as the successor of Peter; (2) he must speak on a matter of faith or morals; and (3) he must solemnly define the doctrine as one that must be held by all the faithful.
Source: catholic.com/tracts/the-galileo-controversy

stevekehl,

as has been pointed out (or at the very least implied by questions), Galatians 2 cannot be used to disprove the Papacy (or Papal Infallibility–I assume that was the angle you are taking.)

This snippet from the Catholic Answer’s tract “Papal Infallibility” sums up the incident you refer to in Galatians 2 in reference to Papal Infallibility well:
As a biblical example of papal fallibility, Fundamentalists like to point to Peter’s conduct at Antioch, where he refused to eat with Gentile Christians in order not to offend certain Jews from Palestine (Gal. 2:11–16). For this Paul rebuked him. Did this demonstrate papal infallibility was non-existent? Not at all. Peter’s actions had to do with matters of discipline, not with issues of faith or morals.
Furthermore, the problem was Peter’s actions, not his teaching. Paul acknowledged that Peter very well knew the correct teaching (Gal. 2:12–13). The problem was that he wasn’t living up to his own teaching. Thus, in this instance, Peter was not doing any teaching; much less was he solemnly defining a matter of faith or morals.
Fundamentalists must also acknowledge that Peter did have some kind of infallibility—they cannot deny that he wrote two infallible epistles of the New Testament while under protection against writing error. So, if his behavior at Antioch was not incompatible with this kind of infallibility, neither is bad behavior contrary to papal infallibility in general.
 
You’re confused by that? I’ll bet you leave a magic show in a near stupor.
What makes me wonder is that there are more Protestant Denominations than Religions are in the World.
I am confused by the sheer number of opinions, multiplied it will reach the millions.
 
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